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27 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:For almost three years you’ve been telling everyone how you would take back control and be a proud sovereign nation doing trade deals with the whole world and now you need someone to say you something and kick you out, which you know the EU does not have any power over because the act of leaving is solely under the responsibility of the UK?
(And I don’t even want to start thinking about how Brexiteers would moan about sovereignty and democracy if the EU actually could tell a member country to leave or kick it out. Hypocrites.)
"For almost three years you’ve been telling everyone how you would take back control and be a proud sovereign nation doing trade deals with the whole world and now you need someone to say you something and kick you out"
I agree with this to a large extent. Our 'representatives' (i.e. MPs) have let us down badly ☹️.
How much worse will they be if they are allowed to get away with this? ????
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37 minutes ago, malagateddy said:
Yip..but remember that there has been financial turbulance a few times in the last 30 or do years..negative equity..repossessions etc.
A 25/30 year financial noose round your neck is sometimes not a pretty sight
Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
Exactly.
To be honest, high inflation and interest rates worked out well for me - as I was lucky enough to be in a job where salaries at least matched inflation. Not everyone was so lucky, and many lost their homes as a result ☹️.
When my ex and I separated, it was depressing that we both bought houses from people who were looking at repossession.... In our defense, neither of us argued about the price as we both felt badly for those who were losing their homes.
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Something missing from this report?
How did three teenagers manage to hijack a tanker that had rescued them?
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1 hour ago, bristolboy said:
So, what right wing political leader or politician is there who really opposes these "globalists"? Who doesn't want to shower them with massively reduced taxes? Who doesn't want to lessen regulations that govern the financial industry?
Your allegatons are just ignorance masquerading as cynicism because cynicism is easy. It doesn't require familiarity with facts. Far easier to stick with amorphous generalizations.
Same with supposed 'left wing' politicians..... which is why trump was able to become president....
But this is completely off topic.
Brunei has come out with a new, horrendous law - and everyone needs to know this.
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1 hour ago, samran said:
Left/Globalist tag is really a confusing one which bubbles up from the bowels of the internet.
By definition, if you are on ‘the left’ you are anti free trade, big on tariffs and all sorts of protectionism. They are suspicious of globalisation, corporations and the power that gets concentrated in the hands of a few as a result. You don’t like migration as that undermines the rights of the workers through supressed wages.
If you dont agree with this, then you are certainly not of ‘the left’.
So the whole ‘globalist/left’ tag is really just some made up tag by the new ‘angry people’ of the web, making up BS tags. The whole point of course, is to come up with a new term of insult which means everything to them, but nothing to everything else.
Its the internet equivalent of Americans calling something they don’t understand ‘socialist’, even when it isn’t.
The irony of it all, is that if you are against globalisation, then without doubt, you are a paid up lefty.
It would be so much easier if posters would give up on the 'tags' that fit their ideas - but have nothing to do with reality.
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5 hours ago, sanemax said:It was the U.K electorate that "demanded" a referendum , Cameroon just obliged
Have to disagree insofar as Cameron only agreed to a referendum because UKIP was becoming too popular at the time and the tories were losing votes to them, and he had no doubt that remain would win....
To be fair, he was right to a certain extent - i.e. UKIP becoming too popular - he just got it wrong believing that remain would win!
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16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Every expat who has chosen to live in Thailand has in principle accepted their are limits to freedom of expression they themselves are willing to accept.
Because we live in a foreign country, and so we (or at least some of us....) accept that our views are entirely irrelevant.
It's entirely different if we are living in our home countries where we expect to have freedom of expression.
This proposed law, as pointed out by other posters is purely a restriction on freedom of expression.
The first part of the OP that 'jumped out at me' was "Juries would decide whether the content was removed fast enough.". ????
"fast enough" is the first clue that this proposed law is nanny state gone mad!
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11 minutes ago, Grouse said:Following May's insulting speech from Downing Street 10 days ago I posted an angry comment. I was suspended for 10 days under section (9).
I accepted this with equanimity. This is a private website and moderators are free to act as they see fit.
However, for clarity, my comment was not due to misogynistic ideas on my part.
I condemn May for being useless, unpleasant, dishonest, divisive and psychotic; NOT because she is a woman.
To avoid any further risk of being condemned for misogyny, I have added the complainant to my ignore list in perpetuity.
For the avoidance of doubt, I like Anna Soubry, Heidi Allen and Yvette Cooper; I do not care for Caroline Flint, Margaret Hodge and Andrea Leadsom. Not because they are women but because of their political views and attitudes. (for the record I like Heidi Allen for other, less intellectual, reasons ????).
Yes, I believe you ????.
Somehow I know that you are blaming me for reporting you to the mods - but (unlike you) I rarely go squealing to the mods over posts I dislike - so I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who reported you. ????
But to look on the bright side, hopefully you think it's me - and so have put me on your ignore list!
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5 hours ago, 7by7 said:All the examples you provided from the press were cases of discrimination benefiting British citizens.
So how will Brexit stop that?
Apart from a rise due to the so called Great Recession of 2008, the UK unemployment rate has steadily been falling for most of this century.
(Source)
As you can see, since peaking in 2011 the rate has steadily fallen so unemployment is now below the level it was before the various Eastern European countries joined the EU in the expansions of 2004, 2007 and 2013!
So how is EU membership putting British people out of work?
You haven't realised yet that unemployment statistics have been manipulated beyond recognition?
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7 hours ago, sanemax said:I have no idea how people would vote again and neither do you , but what would be the point in asking people again ?
The M.P's have already stated that they will not deliver what was voted for , so, just have the one question this time :
Do you want to remain in the E.U.
Thats it, either tick that or dont , but , no other options though
We had that referendum back in '16.....
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How on earth did this thread turn into a debate on Latin etc.???
Seeing as we're way off topic anyway, I'll add my '2 cents' - English is the 'universal' second language everywhere thanks to the Americans!
I too was taught Latin at school and it is useful as a 'background' language to european languages. Sadly, I can remember virtually nothing of it nowadays ☹️.
Some people have a 'gift' for languages, and so can easily learn another. Others don't have this 'gift', and find it v. difficult to learn other languages.
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3 hours ago, 7by7 said:May's deal means we will:
Leave the customs union.
Leave the single market.
Leave the freedom of movement directive.
Leave the common agricultural policy.
Leave the common fisheries policy.
Leave the jurisdiction of the ECJ.
But still have a trade deal with our largest trading partner.
So instead of merely repeating Farage's nonsense about a so called surrender document and posting sloganeering about what a man thought when he was at university; how about thinking for yourself and telling us what it is you don't like about any of that?
Precisely WHEN will the uk leave all of the above as a result of the eu/may deal?
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3 hours ago, Chelseafan said:Doesn't really change anything though, you're just replacing shit with turd.
True, but at least the new turd will be a bit more wary about taking the electorate into consideration than the current shit!
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14 hours ago, 7by7 said:Why is it most Brexiteers wont answer straight questions?
They are very good at sloganeering, but when asked to give a straight answer to a straight question go very quiet!
I know you sort of answered a question I asked about May's deal by saying you disliked the backstop; but when I tried to discuss that point further with you, you ignored me.
In a genuine democracy, people are allowed to change their minds.
"I know you sort of answered a question I asked about May's deal by saying you disliked the backstop; but when I tried to discuss that point further with you, you ignored me."
I tend to ignore questions that only lead to us going round in circles....
IIRC the post to which you are referring, the problem is that I believe the eu/may deal is brino (and paying 39 bn for the privilege....) - whereas you believe it to be brexit.
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24 minutes ago, Basil B said:
Do not know what it has to do with the EU I am sure it has more to do with the advice of the incompetent Attorney General whose advice seems to change from day to day...
Not even the majority of remainer MPs think that the eu/may deal will work with the electorate.....
We'rPe all guessing at their next move to keep us within the eu - without a large number of MPs losing their seats ????.
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Who cares about the multitude of prostitutes the brunai/saudi elite had on their 'plane - not to mention their consumption of alcohol?
This topic is about brunei, and their recent decision re. gays and those committing adultery, receiving a death sentence....
Hypocrisy of the worst magnitude.
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8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:In all fairness it is the Brexiteers who got their dates mixed up.
What’s the latest date you are shouting ‘Out means Out!’ at?
Cough - it should have been the 29th March.
It's now been changed to 12th April - and undoubtedly will be moved even further ahead into the future by MPs and the eu......
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4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:In all fairness it is the Brexiteers who got their dates mixed up.
What’s the latest date you are shouting ‘Out means Out!’ at?
Why aree remainers never interested in discussing the 'interesting' points?
They were fascinated by the gina miller court case - but have no interest (as far as I can see) in genuine democracy?
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38 minutes ago, Forethat said:
Or, we can go on exactly like before and eat peppers and strawberries grown in Kent, and other "fancy continental foods" if and when we like. Which is the most likely outcome even if UK crashes out of the EU. There will be fancy continental food available even after Brexit. If you have read something else in the Guardian you've been scammed.
We run a trade deficit with a majority of EU-countries. In round figures, the deficit with the EU is £67 Billion (2017). That's one incentive for the EU to get a trade deal in place faster than Guy Verhoftwat can say "The European Federation of States". And their incentive is £67 billion bigger than ours. So the question we should ask ourselves is: "would Germany and France rather export their wine and fancy cars to the UK or are they going to watch as USA and Japan put trade deals in place to sell their wine and cars at a more competitive rates...?" (French farmers would LOVE that...).
However, as I said before, I think the financial aspects of Brexit are negligible. The biggest stake here is what happens to the EU if the UK leaves successfully - without going bankrupt.
"However, as I said before, I think the financial aspects of Brexit are negligible."
I have to disagree, as I think 'the money' is the most important point for the eu......
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15 minutes ago, malagateddy said:
She like a infuriating dumb blond...
All game for strip poker even though absolutely hopeless at poker.
But wears 6 pairs of knickers.It was Basil B that said this - not malageteddy, so I apologise in advance.
I've never played strip poker in my life, but did play poker once with my boyfriend's (at the time) friends after a v. boozy night, after which they all came back to our place. I won, but we all lost insofar as we all had to call in 'sick' an hour or so later ????.
I'm pretty sure that nobody has ever thought of me a "dumb blond", and I hate this type of stereotype.
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24 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:Resign anyway, you’re finished as a leader.
Not that you have ever shown any real leadership.
Inept, incompetent, incapable and an embarrassment.
Resign, now.
Have to agree unfortunately.
I thought it made no sense for another GE so soon after the last - as it would cause even more uncertainty and chaos, but MPs have left us in the situation where either we need another GE, or another referendum ☹️.
And yet there are still those who think our MPs genuinely care about the electorate they are supposed to represent.....
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28 minutes ago, Basil B said:Ensure we do not jump off the cliff in 13 days time.
If I were a Tory back bench MP, I would resign the whip until such time as May resigned and the Government started to listen to the people,
You mean the majority that voted to leave?
But I apologise, we've been round and round in circles on this point ☹️.
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3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:I don't see Mr Clooney calling for a boycott of Saudi oil products, yet the fate of homosexuals in Saudi is not a happy one.
But we all know that saudi is far from a tolerant or democratic state, which is why we half-heartedly applaud every time they make a step in the 'right' direction.
This thread is about brunei moving backwards..... that clooney has helped publicise!
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10 minutes ago, simple1 said:
Implementation of Sharia Criminal Law and the latest round of implementation (Hudud) was and is covered by MSM. Thankfully the very harsh implementation of Sharia Law is by a small number of Muslim majority countries. One assumes Clooney is influenced by his wife who is going an excellent job of trying to assist the oppressed around the world.
"Implementation of Sharia Criminal Law and the latest round of implementation (Hudud) was and is covered by MSM."
I'll take your word for it, but the fact is that the first time I read about this latest horror (by Brunei) was as a result of Clooney's comments becoming a thread on ThaiVisa.
But to be fair, it's quite possible I missed the thread on TV previously that had come from other sources?
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Video: Motorcyclist and passenger thrown off in Sunday collision
in Thailand News
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I agree, but re. point 1 - as a scooter rider it's difficult to find the right balance between constantly checking what is coming up behind, and keeping a full look out on the road ahead for the many possible dangers ahead.
Even though I'm continually looking in my mirrors, frequently I'm still taken by suprise by a vehicle (either 2 or 4 wheeled) that suddenly appears from behind me as they're travelling SO fast!
My 'pet' hate is 4 wheeled vehicles cutting into 'my' lane right next to me to undertake a slower moving vehicle in the right hand lane....
Re. point 5 - agree, but very occasionally something happens so quickly ahead that there's not time to look over one's shoulder.... Why haven't mirrors been designed without the 'blind spot' that necessitates looking over one's shoulder???!