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Presumably these flight will be flying back empty to Thailand, who would be allowed on them?
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Samui sounds a bit better than Phuket, though haven't been for about 16 years but I bet it hasn't changed a bit!
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Whilst this does sound very draconian, I suspect the general means wearing a tracker whilst in isolation only, not when you leave quarantine, as no one should ever accept that kind of loss of privacy. There was an article the other day regarding these covid trackers
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Hope they don't find out that China has also been fibbing about it's covid cases.
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8 minutes ago, Sheryl said:
Absolutely not. I suggest you review what happened in Northern Italy and New York City when it was "loose".
No one has found a way to protect the vulnerable, even with mandatory means. Society is too inter-dependent.
And note that there are deaths in people with no known risk factors, including young people. Not to mention the many deaths that result from collapse of the health system, which happens when the virus is simply "let loose"
What I think could be looked at, in locations where things are not out of control and the health system strong with plenty of capacity, is restricting only those types of events that are known to be at risk for super spreading. Rather than more sweeping restrictions. In other words, aim to to prevent massive surges rather than all cases.
6 months on for the initial phase of the covid crisis, scientists have learned a lot, but politicians are very slow to implement the necessary policies to fix things. It is now known that aerosols are the main vector for transmission not surface contact as has been the claim for a long while. Super spreader events confirm this. To put it simply, the virus is airborne, and that is why masks for everyone are of prime importance.
Vitamin D levels have also been shown to be a major factor in mollifying the severity of the virus's impact. Low Vitamin D levels have been found in up to 90% of severe cases especially those being hospitalized.
Taking vitamin D or making sure you get enough naturally from sunlight and wearing a mask at all times when in the community can only help.
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Good news for returning Aussie expats. I would move fast before they change their minds again
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2 hours ago, Chelseafan said:
Very easy to blame the Government but ultimately its the general public who should take most of the blame.
There is some truth in that, but it is 90% govt policy that is at fault. Current second wave was entirely avoidable, but business pressures from pubs and universities especially made things a lot worse than they should have been
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Thailand will be one of the very last countries to receive any vaccine developed, simply because it will be needed more elsewhere. With Thailand having zero cases it will be seen fairly as being a very low priority for the vaccine
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The only thing that really matter is this
How long can the poor people of Thailand stand being told by the rich people of Thailand that letting in tourists will be calamitous?
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6 hours ago, rupert the bear said:a few points here ,the economy is falling apart,peoples lives have been ruined.no support is given to unemployed people at all now whilst some members of society are zillionaires.they do nothing for their own.the tourist business is the bedrock of the economy whether u like it or not,people have a right to work not poverty as the govt gives them nothing although it has a lot.this must stop,the region has so few cases it can be opened up from japan to india thru viet hk taiwan philippines malaysia and singapore.people will need a neg test within 72 hrs and test again on entry.all clear u wait your test result in quarantine at a reasonable price,stop this insanity of racist rip offs for the empty hotels.i can stay at a 5 star hotel here for 900 B a night look at the net booking will show you. everyone knows you r game,its one of thailands no 1s.we see arguements about whether covids here,well the govt do not test the rates below 1% of the pop one of the lowest in the world,why?false positives are common,of the 700k test done we would get at least 20k false but none.why?the chinese in millions were here and the govt would not remove them no matter what anyone said.why?thats a reservoir of infection and when the govt sacked millions of workers they massed at rail and bus stations.at a time it was very prevalent.pneumonia deaths suddenly shot up then they went down.why?borders are porous and chinese and burmese run across all the time the camb and lao sides too so......thailand and its self importance and lies ...a never ending story ask boss.or the guy with all the expensive watches.this is a culture of dishonesty within govt ,its at every level so whys this any different?close your eyes and you see nothing,dont look at the poverty or suffering dont look at the mega rich dont look at a collapsing economy and businesses ,close those eyes its just not there.we will have to learn to live with it,its endemic now get on with it and spare us the supercillious lies,prepare to deal with cases,across the world econs have opened up in different ways from india to sweden.WHO is an edifice with no credibility,listen to what they didnt say to taiwan,they said no human/human transmission,flights from china no problem.nope theyre done cooked their own goose just jobs for the china boys.this whole covid deal is full of lies corruption and money,vaccines they may or may not work depending on where they come from,figs that have been manufactured to fit an agenda ask UK about that and here,its gone on everywhere,in USA so ins comps cash in.its never ending.the simple fact is its here endemic and we need to help the frail and weak and the rest of us get on with it.
Is there anybody that can read this, it might be important..
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So what are we up to now?
28 days quarantine and at least 5 or is it 6 negative covid tests
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Just now, pookondee said:
And many are not even aware of the WORST issue surrounding the quarantine...
Imagine testing positive, and having NO symptoms AT ALL..
yet being dragged away by stooges, put in a hospital for X weeks,
and extorted for ???k baht.
You will quickly go from being the elite, valued tourist you envisioned, to virtually a prisoner to be milked.
no thanks!!
This will happen if you have had Covid and have antibodies or any dead virus particles floating around. Thailand cannot distinguish between them
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Isn't this just a "pawn Shop" for business? Hardly a new idea, and the only people that ever prosper are the pawn shop owners
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You have to ask yourself if 1 death in 100 days is worth the current economic chaos Thailand has put itself through?
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7 hours ago, brommers said:Oh gosh, how wonderful!
No, wait. Does England not have over 3000 new infections per day, does England not have a testing system that is about to collapse, does England not have resurgent city by city lockdowns, does England not have the threat of curfews being imposed???
Why would anyone in their right mind want to go to this shambolic mess of a country!
But then again the UK does more tests in one day than Thailand has done in 6 months
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47 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:
Not much of interest then
Only scenery and quiet life.
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Unless this is a normal 2000 baht 90 day visa, I doubt it will be very popular. Adding any financial requirements will be a big hindrance to visitors
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On 9/12/2020 at 9:35 AM, BoganInParasite said:
The Thai wife and I enjoy Phrae but definitely prefer Nan, particularly the upper portion of the province where we live.
Used to hate Phrae when visiting wife's family, but now I love it. We're building a house nearby, though would love to explore Nan and Phayao properly
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If Thailand was the very last country in the world to have Covid pass through its population it will still have come, and have been at the expense of hundreds of thousands of livelihoods. As I keep saying Thailand cannot in any way avoid covid ad infinitum.
As the rest of the world recovers Thailand will be the sick man of Asia.i think that is what the Dr is advocating for
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Thankfully there aren’t any bars in Phrae so pesky farangs can’t survive there very long.
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I doubt all these people actually have active Covid infections. More likely they are picking up antibodies, meaning they would have had it at some point, and were probably asymptomatic.
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2 hours ago, ukrules said:
The thing is - 'emergency treatment' is not what you're going to get in Thailand.
Test positive in Thailand and you're going for 'treatment' in hospital for weeks even if you're not ill and have no symptoms, you're not getting out until you test negative.
This is NOT emergency treatment for most people. It's a preventative treatment for the good of society in general, I don't think the insurance companies will pay for this because it's not normal and it's definitely not an emergency. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.
Hmm. Is that what they are doing? No way I would go to a hospital unless i was struggling to breathe, ergo need emergency treatment. Wouldn’t go to be observed. Stuff that!
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Got a quote for 2021 from UK insurance company, total was £300 for six months including all usual stuff, cancellation, theft etc etc, plus £1million covid cover for emergency treatment and repatriation.
Thought that sounded like a decent price. These Thai prices are bonkers-
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4 hours ago, eeworldwide said:
I think that thailand refuses or is unable, to view themselves from the outside perspective.
What made Thailand a popular tourist destination in the past, was that it was
- cheap
- carefree
- accessible
- fun
- exciting
People came to Thailand because it meant they could get away from the bureaucracy which plagues the west; one could come here and clamber on a motorcycle and travel on pavements. You could dash away and be anonymous at a full moon party, or go up north and get lost in the jungle and fall in love with some crazy isaan girl and have mad sex parties until dawn (if that floats your boat) or you could take the family to a high-end resort in the south and have all manner of fun on boats and beaches.
You could be a pretty broke student backpacker with $50 in your bumbag, and you could stay in a crappy hostel and meet up with other fellow stinkies, and hitch it down to the south and have an adventure and make friends for life.
You could go kickboxing and train with some of the best in the word. Go rock climbing, sky diving, snorkelling and deep sea diving, and all at competitive prices.
You could finish it all off with a couple of hedonistic nights in Bangkok, which might still only cost you 1500-3000 baht, if you weren't completely insane ( less than that 10 years ago)
You could visit the silk factories in the north and go camping in Kao Yai, or if you were elderly you could receive great medical attention and get pleasured by a pretty nurse into the bargain.
If you were american you could have a stab at setting up a business pretty easily ( it would fail after a year or 2 - but still have some fun).
Simply put, that has all gone; poof! Up and disappeared like a fart in the wind, never to return.
It was going downhill long before Covid, and now it's well and truly gone forever.
The problem lies within Thailand and their inability to appreciate tourists and to integrate - and hell - even to learn the bloody english language properly.
Nobody is getting on a plane to stay here anymore.
As long as covid exists it will be over.
Thailand needs to accept that the world is not standing at the departure gates across the globe straining at the leash to get here - and even if and when they DID get here - they'd soon find out how deathly BORING it is now!
There's a horrible pall of depression hanging over everything and the current political situation is further dragging everything down and is like a powder keg waiting to blow.
You can't have FUN here anymore.
Pattaya is dead - its all GONE. The fun was in the relative anonymity - the great melting pot hodgepodge of people from all over the world - getting lost in clubs in Silom and China town and waking up hungover with a bad tattoo - it's all gone. It's over.
Stupid hairbrained "Schemes" are not going to solve it - because nobody is thinking about thailand. Nobody wants to come - everyone just wants their lives back - and that starts at HOME. And HOME is screwed because some Chinese clowns wanted to eat bats for dinner.
All I can say is thank god that era is well and truly over.
Thai Beaches Won’t Reopen Fully Until Vaccines Become Available
in Thailand News Headlines
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Vaccine won't be widely available in Thailand until 2022 at the earliest. So good luck with that plan