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2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Yes, but IMHO, smart people don't voluntarily take actions that needlessly increase their chances of getting sick or dying, like ignoring prudent protections against COVID 19.... There already are enough risks in life you can't influence/control, but there are some you can, and COVID is one of those.
How long can Thailand hideaway though? There will never be a vaccine that is 100% effective, and I do mean *never*
Like flu the coronavirus will constantly mutate, making every vaccine less and less effective, this is not something that is going to stop anytime soon, it is with us forever
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2 minutes ago, AndresSP said:A bit of a conspiracy theory but yeah, sometimes I wonder whether this mayhem is also about redistribution of wealth – bankrupt the weak, consolidate the infrastructure in a few hands. I am talking big businesses of course – hotel, restaurant chains and such.
Thailand is already one of the most unequal countries in the world, 3rd behind Russia and India, the top 1 per cent already own 58% of the countries wealth.
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Coronavirus is here to stay, it will not go away in 6 months, a year or even 10 years. Any vaccine produced *will not* be 100% effective or available to all that need it. Thailand cannot hide away until it blows over, it took the right decision to close down early on during the pandemic and probably saved many lives, but now it has to face up to the future.
Without tourism, Thailands fragile economy will soon splinter society even more into those with wealth and those just about managing. What those figures are, are up for debate, but I am guessing the JAM's make up the vast proportion of those outside the big cities and even in big cities like Bangkok it must be a significant proportion.
A return to the heady days of mass tourism will not in all likelihood happen for 5-10 years, so millions will still slip into poverty no matter what, but to stay closed for the rest of 2020 can only accelerate the decline of Thailands whole economy.
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Anybody guess at total cost for flight and "incarceration"?
Can't see it being less than £3000 per person, which is not going to attract anybody. Would consider this for January if no other option, but I won't be paying £2-3K for the privilege, nor would I consider a return flight from London to Phuket with a bankrupt airline a benefit in any way
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6 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:
Better do not open now . Virus is still surging and no vaccine ready yet . Bad timing .
Virus is surging in Europe still, true, but the mortality rate is dropping like a stone. Thailand may have already ridden out this storm and it cannot wait until a vaccine is available
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6 hours ago, bradiston said:
Any other details about your infection? When, where, how? Were you just allowed to stay home, being treated by your wife?
Where was in the UK, when was beginning of August. One night of chills and fever then about 8 days of lethargy, no coughing no loss of taste etc. Had a drive in test, results in 18 hours, started taking the Fa Talai Chon pills day test came back positive.
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My wife made me take this when I tested positive for Covid, and I have to say I felt better after taking it, not much better, but better, My symptoms weren't that bad anyway
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16 minutes ago, chainarong said:
One problem , in quarantine each person must have their own separate room and toilet
So couples cannot quarantine together?
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5 hours ago, UncleMhee said:
Government approved ASQ Hotels & some eye watering prices
BKK
thaiest.com/blog/list-of-alternative-state-quarantine-asq-hotels-thailand
Phuket, Pattaya, Buri Ram
thaiest.com/blog/thailand-alternative-local-state-quarantine-alsq-hotelsThose prices are a joke. So coming back as a couple is twice as expensive, even though sharing room. Screams Rip off
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1 hour ago, whaleboneman said:
Regardless of what day quarantine starts you can't squeeze in 120 two week periods into 4 months.
You're right the actual figure is 106 different two week periods, I forgot the last 14 days would not count
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1 hour ago, Berti said:
Let's do the math.
4 months is about 17.4 weeks.
2 weeks quarantine that's 8.7 quarantine periods from Dec to March.
So they must have 230,000 people in quarantine at the same time and I estimate about 2,000 hotels with quarantine facilities. Realistic?
No idea how realistic 2 million long stay tourists are. Seems like a fantasy number.
Are you sure about that? A 2 week quarantine period can start any day between Dec/March, they overlap. so there are 120 or so in that time frame
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12 hours ago, NightSky said:
Actually, despite all the nonsense posted online about covid-19 the latest research from the middle of August 2020 suggests that the antibody providing immunity to covid-19 will last for years and a vaccine will be able to provide this.
This wont help the OP though since the vaccine is yet to be finalized and released.
That's good news if true, as I said I have already had Covid once. Might be very useful
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Thai can give you a seat on alternative Star Alliance carriers, but you have to ask
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Must admit to still struggling with the idea that Thailand will try to remain closed over the high season. I've already had a positive covid test a few weeks back, so the thought of having to quarantine seems a bit overkill
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3 hours ago, ukrules said:
Meh, a better choice of words would have been 'viable virus' but I think we got the message.
The 'Euro' strain of COVID called D614G has been in Thailand since March.
Not sure that is true, at least not according to info at this link D614G Mutation
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The situation in Thailand seems gloomier from the inside than from the outside I must say. And anyone married to a Thai woman should know better than thinking I could ever explain anything better than her reasoning.
It's a done deal as long as the borders are open and flights resuming
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36 minutes ago, Upnotover said:
A single entry non-O based on marriage give you 90 days which can be extended by 60 days at immigration in country. That's likely your best visa option. However, there's this virus thing going on which probably means you can't go in January in any case without all the hoop jumping that entails.
Thanks and yes, everything comes down to next year being more foreigner friendly in Thailand. I doubt very much I would willing to do any kind of quarantine just to visit
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Hi all,
Wife has persuaded me to return to Thailand for six months this coming January to fix up our "retirement house". It's been a while since I have wanted stay more than a few weeks to be honest and the current visa rules seem convoluted. What would be easiest single entry solution to staying with wife's family for that amount of time? The only option I could find entailed having £5k in the bank for six months which is already too late to do
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10 minutes ago, rkidlad said:
Friend asked me a while ago if we would have a second wave. I told him I didn't know but didn't seem likely as there wasn't really a first one. I did tell him that if the protests were to grow in size, they'd be mentioning more about a second wave. This seems to be it.
This. D614G strain that ravaged USA and Europe has arrived in Malaysia, Thailand will have to deal with that eventually, and it will not be plain sailing like this year
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Kamalabob2 . Thank you, that video was great
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Thanks very much everyone, I can start drawing up what we have so far and pass on to the town planner guy to draw up properly.
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Amazing resource chickenslegs! Thanks
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Thanks Kamalabob2
I can't believe walls come out at 10cm thick! No insulation, no sound proofing. We want to do a higher spec than that, budget is 2 million for single storey 10.5m x 8m. Definitely wider doors though, lots of folding doors and windows for light, though all windows will be covered to avoid direct sunlight
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Cheers Crossy!
Walls are not load bearing. That seems like a strange way to build
Thailand not opening to foreign tourists any time soon
in Thailand News Headlines
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Nope!
It's infecting the Andamans
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-53925071