Elkski

It appears the AZ isn't working nearly as well as the phizer, moderna, or JJ.  Not even in the same league.  At such late stage why haven't they stated that they are trying to procure some top meds.  All three too vaccine brands have come out saying 3 rd round and yearly shots will be needed.   Any plans for that?  

Pure deflection.   However I did see many IG stars posting big mask less dinners ( but under 10), bday parties, and video from the kolour parties.  

I think it is good they put the managers of krystal in jail.  Jail not a safe   place from covid now.   Need a few hiso or parliament members sentenced.  

Funny how they are begging foreigners who attended the colour parties to come forward and get tested.   Did you read about the blond famous young woman woman who was allowed to take a non stop private van to CM after her positive test so she can quarantine at home?  ( Did she have a P- Suzy) .  Now some family are positive.  I wonder if the driver has to quarantine 14 days now.   If your super rich Thailand is a great place to live. 

Be careful foreigner Joe and Gift

Food comparison to how songkran planning was handled.    

 So how do people travel by bus or train 1 way then get a car to travel back to BKK?  Are they saying bus travel is a proven hot spot?  

1 hour ago, pedro01 said:

Why does it matter if he went for a night our and got it?

 

Is he supposed to stay in?

I know right!  But you guess there is a moral code for these guys.  But lining their pockets is A-ok

I like the last post very much.   

Very good info gents.  Hope we are not hijacking this thread?

My fiance flies out may 7 assuming she is approved at her interview 26 th. But that is assuming the US embassy stays open.   Tense time for us after 15 months apart.  If we ever do make it together I think we will be inseparable after this 15 month ordeal.  I don't see a quarantine order in washington, seattle where I will meet her and we plan to relax 2 nights before on to my home state. 

You are talking like people will be vaccinated tomorrow when Thai officials have said end of 2022 and that assumes not much hesitation in the population.   So what is the effective R nought  for sinovac population that get the vaccine with 50% .  Assuming this slow vax schedule so many will get the virus pre vax.  Hey maybe that is the real plan.  Natural herd defense.  Not the first country to think like this.  Even past US admin considered this. 

To have Chinese doctors risk disappearing to say the sinovac has low efficacy is meaningful.  

No one has commented on how few 20,000 hospital beds is for 70 million.  If 1000;cases a day they will be full in 2 weeks.   I guess , 6000 beds full now. 

Also no one is quoting all the reports about long term cases (long haulers) and the permanent damage being found in hearts and other organs of a large number of cases.  Even young super athlete's.  So while sinovac maybe near 100% at preventing death if 45% of people get it this means many more people are going to have permanent effects as well as being transmissive.  Plus 1 dose takes a long time to be effective.   How long ago did the TAT official get the sinovac? Or did he get AZ?   It is  sad a country that has had a year to prepare looks so much in panic.  Maybe I underestimate the importance of songkran but they had enough info to cancel it.   If on a ship it maybe mutiny time.   All you farangs who have been bragging about how Thailand has done and how your glad your there,  What say you now?

It is nice that medical costs will be covered.  But does this mean the hospitals will prefer patients with insurance? 

What about flying from Thailand to USA?  They now require a test before entering USA right?  Where is the best place to get a test in BKK?  And with all these testing places full or out if tests I imagine results take longer.   Hopefully it will be possible in 25 days for fiancee to get a test and results in a timely fashion. 

31 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

Are they really forcing people that test positive, but are in no need of actual care, into these "hospitals" ?  Looks a lot like prison to me.
 

 

Now this sort of group resort could attract tourists.   

I hope for the best in Thailand.  Some of you guys just don't understand how this virus works.   I've seen the numbers in my own state population of  under 3 million.  4000 cases/day was the peak.  Now down to 500ish.  Last July we were starting to breaking the 1000/ day numbers.  I worry that this strain of the virus may deal a big blow, songkran timing was the worst imaginable. 

How would anyone needing a covid test for a flight out of Thailand get one now?

This Dr who's #1 bullet point is to stop provincial travel.  This seems like he maybe called before the higher ups for a behind the shed talk.   

Visacrack , there are many cases of healthy athletes having damage to their heart.  Many long haulers.  I can't let you spread false info.

This guy's numbers couldn't possibly be related to reality.     I predict case #'s will go to 5000/ day in 10 days due to songkran. 

I think this songkran will go down in history for the wrong reasons.  

Did big to think cancelling 2 songkrans in a row would break the camels back?  

I've read there is so much wealth at the top that has been donated from the Thai people, why don't he give some  back during these hard times?  

Cornwall!!!  That will get the alligators off the shore.  Haha.  

But on a serious note.  This virus version will now give Thailand a proper test of how they can fend. 

Fiance's in thonglor says the number today is 789 so i think this number 600 is out of date. 

Prayut the homebody is getting a tad fussy. 

Anytime I've seen a spike like this in the news it keeps going much higher than you can imagine.  My own state of Utah, ( population < 3 million), passed 500 cases/day last june.  And then peaked in near 4000.  

3 mill= 4000 then 70 million = ? 

She said 4-5 hospitals at capacity?  Is this true.  

Anyone on IG following some HISO have seen they have been frequently going to Phuket.  Why not if you have money it's a short flight and probably empty resorts by all the postings.  Maybe even given for the publicity.  I saw posts on IG right after the party.  It looked like a roaring time.  Not a mask in sight and crowded and hot gals in beach clothes if not bikini's.  I knew right then this could be a disaster.  First  series of 3 parties out of the gate in a year for this Kolour outfit and wham!! How can anybody be think this Phuket opening can go well is a fool. 

Just bad timing with the big holiday, new highway to show off.  UK variant found just before songkran and no one with big enough cajones. 

 I wondered why the highway was to initially only open outbound then inbound?  Is  this so they could position ER and highway crews to respond to the accidents that indicate the design mistakes or was it both sides open one way?  

The big question is?  Will Anutin reverse course and cancel songkran on Fri morning.  I think most Thai people would accept and appreciate this.   Basically his career is over.  Does he want to have deaths to his credit or be remembered for someone who tried to do what is blaringky obvious.  Seeing how Thai officials flip flop this isn't an impossibility . 

2 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

 

It would be possible to get rid of the virus, if no one was allowed to leave the house for 6 weeks and everyone would be supplied with groceries by the cops, firemen, army and/or the Red Cross or whatever there is in any given country. They should’ve done that back in March 2020 already. The sick would then have either recovered or died, the virus would have had no new people to infect and it would’ve died out. This would’ve been a lot cheaper in countries that pay unemployment payments to people and compensation to companies and a lot of businesses would have not gone out of business. Plus countless lives could have been spared and life itself could have gone back to normal in mid-April last year! 
 

But thanks to the countless cretins who were like ‘I want to get my hair cut and my human rights are violated and COVID doesn’t exist and masks are worthless’ and felt thy need to go demonstrate on the street the government in Germany for example gave in to their demands, which was the stupidest thing they could’ve ever done, and new infections went from 242 a day on the 10th of June to over 30000 a day a few months later. 
 

What gets me the most is things like the demonstration against the Covid measurements taken by the German government in Stuttgart last weekend. Lots of demonstrators, most of them without masks and no safety distance, demonstrating against the very thing they are prolonging by not wearing masks and not keeping their distance. How frocking cretinous can you be?! 

Perfectly said .   GREED! personal and corporate and government. 

My opinion of many of you has been severely degraded by having to read pages of childish banter.  UK variant is just a name, full stop. I can't keep the v1.4.5.11 names straight in my head. 

I and many predicted this eventuality in Thailand.  It didn't even require any of my ???? science brain cells to see this coming 6 months ago.   Anutin needs to go.  So sad to see 12 months of good effort being wiped out by greed.  All of those who said don't worry it's just the flu are about to find out the truth.  As far as I'm concerned those types should be branded with a tattoo on the forehead for life.

I should add praise to these several doctors  or medical professionals who have recently been brave to share an educated opinion going against the grain.  Does anyone remember how regional reports were squashed very early on.  Thailand is in last place on the vaccine race.  But worse they don't even have a viable plan B.  AZ  vaccine not looking to good based on science.   I predict many Countries like UK, USA, India, are going to regret that they were so me me and may let some super deadly mutation occurs in some poor country that really attacks the World. 

One more tidbit.  USA is now approaching what 25% fully vax rate but look at the spikes in many states.   Doesn't bode well for <1% rate in Thailand with sino or AZ

I sure hope AZ proves effective and I hope this rush to vaccinate one island to get foreign income flowing over a more fair distribution works out for the top brass.  For a country who said tourism was only 10% and the coffers were so full it seems like they could offer government support.  It would seem prudent  to lock out domestic travel to Phuket while this experiment is tried.  What is plan B if some new variant makes it's way into the population before vaccination is achieved and case numbers spike?

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/events/weekend-party-event-in-phuket-reports-positive-covid-infection

The fuse has been lit. 

I have used wise for years.  Last few months in thai account in under 10 seconds.  This is done midweek, no holidays . But even after hours and weekend s seem to go through so fast last 8 months.  I think many people desire USD.     I used chase once 4 tests ago and exchange rate was terrible and so slow, they charged me 50$ fee but 3 months later they reduced that fee as it was some mistake.  Overall it's sad we lose anything in money transfers. What a scam business that provides no benifit fir the World.  Just a parasitic industry that needs to be killed.   If the World used 1 currency?