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1 hour ago, puffy said:
I think the murder charge can stick. In law it is the what a reasonable person could expect in a situation. If you went out with a loaded gun and started shooting into a crowd a reasonable person would expect to kill someone so therefor it would be murder, likewise if you deliberately drive the wrong way in the fast lane of a highway a reasonable person would expect to kill someone this is enough to prove murder.
Fair point, but I think a lawyer would struggle to prove it was a deliberate, premeditated act of murder. Hence it being in the manslaughter bracket for me. Interesting points being raised though.
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28 minutes ago, hdkane said:
exactly...voluntary manslaughter seems appropriate...
Indeed. If such a charge exists here. Hopefully it does, but I don't recall seeing it before.
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46 minutes ago, bheard said:
Do they have the "manslaughter" concept here?40 minutes ago, Borzandy said:unpremeditated murder do you know what is this, this man deserves ample.
As mentioned earlier that's manslaughter, but does that exist under Thai law? I don't know.
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"Most seen driving on the wrong side of the road keep close to the road shoulder."
Yes - if they know they are on the wrong side of the road.
I hear you all, and your comments are understood. But surely just simply driving on the wrong side of the road in a seemingly confused (drunk) state isn't intent. Remember the guy who killed the two graduate students? He was possibly (probably) drunk and on medication. That started off as a murder charge but was later dropped. The two cases have similarities. Please don't anyone think I'm defending this guy; he needs to go away for a long time, but his defense on the current charges might be easy: "I didn't know I was on the wrong side of the road and didn't mean to kill anyone." To prove otherwise will be tough. Whereas with a gun a defence is more difficult, "I pointed the gun at him and pulled the trigger, but I didn't mean to kill him." Everyone knows if you point and fire a gun then your intent is probably to kill.
Just saying.
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I might get slated for this, but I'm worried he'll get off. I can't see how a murder charge can be proven. How will a prosecution lawyer 'prove' intent?
What was the motive? How can premeditated murder be shown to be his intention? Then, with the murder and attempted murder charges dropped, he's left with a drink driving charge only. Not much (if any) jail time for that.
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3 hours ago, trogers said:
What business establishment opens at 6am in Jomtien or Pattaya?
STD clinics.
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14 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:
Don't know about the amulet but I am sure she is not wearing the same underwear anymore.
That's made my day! Thanks.
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That's the tidiest piece of motorcycle parking I've seen in a while.
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And yet the consumer protection police division can't/won't name the hotel due to absurd defamation laws and therefore are unable to protect consumers from further scams. Utterly ridiculous.
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7 minutes ago, Toshiba66 said:
The arrow was at the point of impact. It was all over if and when the driver saw that arrow at all.
True, but had the driver been looking 50-100 yards beyond the front of his bonnet (as he should have been) he would've seen it.
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22 minutes ago, Lampang2 said:
none of them does anything to avoid the accident
The common denominator for Thailand, the inability to react fast.
It was plenty of time to avoid that one.
Perhaps they both thought they had the right amulet.
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53 minutes ago, mercman24 said:
you lot on here are always to quick to blame the driver, self righteous lot, i bet there was no road sign to say that it was a dual carriagway. when he came out of that soi. so naturally he turned right, and yes i did it in germany many years ago, on a snowy night the arrow on the road was covered in snow, but i knew my mistake within a few feet.
OK, so please tell me who's fault it is? The highways agency for not posting a sign? Or, was the driver's fault for not seeing the arrows in the road pointing toward him (near the Thai flag) or the lack of yellow lines in the center of the road indicating a two-way street. Or were they covered with snow? The difference is you noticed your mistake. He didn't.
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1 hour ago, smedly said:
because they are not interested in enforcing the law simply because there is no monetary gain in it for them, they prefer to do simple helmet licence tax stops because it is easy and they have a chance to earn - money number one - actual proactive law enforcement ..................... <deleted> is that
exactly why Thailand is number one in the world for traffic violations accidents and deaths
Put the average Thai driver on a UK road they would not be doing the stuff they do here because they know the law is enforced and they will very likely be caught and punished, been saying it many times here, ask a Thai that causes an accident if they knew they were doing wrong - they will say yes - ask them why they did it - because they can.
PS is it law here to have a child in a car seat - yes, so why was one likely not being used - see above, because no law enforcement, same goes for phone use, drunks driving (although some improvement) and all the other moving traffic offences that cause accidents and deaths - no proactive policing/ law enforcement - the concept just doesn't exist in Thailand.
Agree completely. And to add to this, the police don't want people to comply with the law. If the vast majority complied then there would be no money in it for the police. They want people to continue breaking the law so that they can collect the 'fines'. Plus, sitting at a roadblock a couple of times a month is far easier than pursuing moving traffic offences, hence they do just that. Thais love the path of least resistance (effort). Sadly the carnage will continue. I just have to hope I'm not a victim one day.
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7 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:
Not really, look at the results.
7 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:Not really, look at the results.
True, I was referring to the act of breeding.
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7 minutes ago, kotsak said:
And these people are allowed to breed..
That's about all they're good at.
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Stupid is as stupid does.
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No surprise. Couldn't organise a p***-up in a brewery.
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3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:
Not really sure why you mentioned it then ?
Especially when you know nothing about it !
1. Wider context.
2. I don't recall saying I knew everything about it.
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Wow. That's one hell of a thorough investigation to know that she used her body as a shield to protect her sister. How could anyone know this? Not important though. More innocent victims of the country's lack of law enforcement. Six on a motorbike is asking for trouble.
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"The two cars in question would have helped her elude officers’ who were watching her as she usually rode in a van, the source said."
"Hey, PC Somchai. Watch this house. Don't worry about any cars that come in or go out, but let us know if you see a van."
You couldn't make this up. Keystone Cops, Thai style. What a bunch of plonkers.
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"Will work for democracy." Then start by electing a leader rather than appointing one.
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2 hours ago, starky said:
Yeah uhm ok why the <deleted> would it? Plus if she hasnt already moved the majority of her assets offshore shes a fool, which I doubt she is. She will lose what would be a lot for the average punter id imagine but a mear drop in the ocean for the shin dynasty.
Indeed. And the the way she pushed Boonsong under the bus says a lot about her character; a smile on the front, but a knife in the back.
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35 minutes ago, DonThaiToMe said:
So an order to fine her (for 35.7 billion baht) has been issued before anyone even knows if she will be (officially) found guilty?
Circus-trial. As expected.
I think you'll find that the order to pay back the billions was issued before the trial even started.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/politics/30298394
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I've been paying by direct debit from my UK bank account for about 15 years.
Murder! Police charge driver who went the wrong way and killed baby
in Thailand News
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Similar in the sense of the charges, not the type of collision. Benz guy was initially charged with murder, but that was dropped as there was a lack of evidence. I can see that happening again here. Correct though that Benz guy has been charged now (with causing death by reckless driving IIRC). And last I heard, yes, he is out on bail.