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Andrew Dwyer

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  1. OP, here is the requirements for Pattaya. You could maybe show the guy whats required in the city where they do 1000s of yellow books. 
    I presume the decree doc you mention is something to do with divorce, not sure what that has to do with yellow book as you can be single, married, divorced etc, maybe tell the guy that the GF is in fact you landlord, not GF.. Maybe get hold of the Alien registration Act and quote some paragraphs out of that.
     
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    Yes Peter, Decree Nisi is the document of my divorce to a Brazilian.
    Exactly, it doesn't really have anything to do with yellow book except in this case the guy maybe seemed a lack of face in my obtaining the documents he first requested without any real difficulties and after having me wait 2 weeks decided to request the decree nisi as surely this would cause me some problems in obtaining a translated, certification !!

  2. Jo 
    UJ didn't reply in that topic.
    This is what I generally stated;
     
    There is no definitive answer to your question, unless someone applied at the same municipal office.
    Thailand's Provinces are like autonomous regions.
    The local government of Bangkok dictates the laws, as in the Civil Registration Act which allows  'aliens' to register and obtain a House book and subsequently a Thai ID card for foreigners. Aliens are issued a Yellow book as opposed to the Blue book issued to Thais.
    Foreign Condo or House owners can be issued Blue books, but cannot be named in them.
    Foreigners with PR status can be named as a 'dweller' in the blue house book of their wife/husband.
     
    Each province has it's own local administrative local government.
    They dictate the administrative process required to comply with the law.
     
    Thais refer to these municipal government complexes as Thesaban's.
    There are 3 levels of administration within each Province.  City, town and sub district.
    Level 3 are Thesaban offices located within your Tambon (sub district).
    Level 2 are Thesaban offices located within your Town or Amphoe (District)
    Level 1 are the main Thesaban offices located within your City or Town (Always Mueang or Nai Muang Districts)
     
    Depending on the administration level you apply greatly depends on the individual experience you may have.
    Level 3 will usually have little knowledge of issuing foreigners with Tabien Baan's, let alone stock them, be familiar with the procedures, or likely have the equipment to take your Biometric information,  and will usually give you the run around because of their lack of experience. Complain about your rubbish collection and they can deal with it.
    Level 2 will be more familiar with the process, better qualified, trained and should have the equipment to take your Biometrics.
    Level 1 is the Thesaban to visit if you have problems at level 3 or 2 administration levels. They should have English speaking management, definitely have the equipment and stock, and are used to dealing with foreigners.
     
    This is not about anyone's opinion, it's based on my experience.
    Had a number of local expats and members of the forum, who I gave the same advice to and those who followed that advise received their TB without the issues that were being presented with at a lower level of Thesaban.
     
    It worked for members from Phetchabun, Phichit and Nong Khai, why not in Ayutthaya.

    Yes, I meant you and UJ discussed this in a different thread .

    I just read through the whole yellow house book registration report thread again and tomorrow I'll go back to the Amphur for my docs and seek out the Provincial office, thanks.
  3. There was another thread Andrew that you participated in.
     
    I told you there you were being given the run around due to the fact you were applying at a district office (admin level 2) who probably don't know the correct procedure.
    In these situations you should always visit the Provincial office, which is always located in the centre of the town (Mueang) area.
     
    My reply to you was on page 3 of that thread. Perhaps you missed it. (Sorry no post numbers, presumably due to the ongoing update).

    I do remember that Tanoshi and that was on my mind when I came out of the " interview " but I thought they were just going to make me sweat ( and show their power over me ) for two weeks and then give me the book ( I know call me Mr Naive [emoji51]).

    Now , your suggestion is a valid option although I did read a thread recently where UbonJoe and yourself were discussing this exact topic and I don't remember the outcome or UbonJoe's exact opinion on this.
  4. I (as a fellow Brit) had a similar experience to yours in 2009. Went through all the Embassy & MFA hoops as prescribed by my amphur, only to fall at the final fence when some eagle-eyed official there spotted that the Thai transliteration in the certified translation of my surname in the Embassy doc did not exactly match my wife's as stated in her blue house book! At that point I threw in the towel.
     
    If you have a specific reason for requiring a yellow house book such a driving licence renewal/application, maybe, it might be worth your while persevering. That said, I have never experienced any sense of deprivation over the past 8 years as a result of not being the proud possessor of a yellow book - but, there again, I have never had the burning desire to get behind the steering wheel of a moving vehicle on the highways and byeways of LOS either!

    Yes, I guess right now I'm 50/50 , get my Decree posted over and look at translation costs etc or say " fork it ", I'll just get a residence certificate from immigration as and when required.

    The thing that riles is that dealing with Amphur's (or Immigration) is pot luck, if the rules were there in black and white and, more importantly, the offices adhered to them then making the decision to go for the yellow book would be simple.
  5. Sounds like the 'head man' at the Amphur's office in Bang Pa-in is an oxygen waster that hates all foreigners. The one at Nongbua Lam Phu in Isaan was similarly blighted.
     
    I would throw the towel in until he dies or you relocate. Even if you get the Portuguese Decree Nisi translated and certified by the MFA (itself a doubtful exercise), he will then want a police check. You get one from the local plod and he will want one from your home police... or vice versa. 

    Yeah, as monomial suggests, I would have to get a certified copy of the Decree Nisi from the Brazilian Embassy, then translated to English and certified ( not sure by who, embassies don't do translation and not sure if MFA can do anything other than English or Thai ? ), then translated to Thai and certified blah blah blah [emoji20]

    Surely there must be other TV members with Decree Nisi's in languages other than English who had translated ??

    A bit of detective work is required me thinks !!
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