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35 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Daily vaccinations report from the Ministry of Public Health - 52,681 total doses for the most recent day, and nearly 1.28 million cumulative. The government's goal is to end up administering 300,000 doses per day:
https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/297138901896020
so assuming that they actually manage to arrive at this figure, then it will take around 220 days to administer the first dose
But what's the betting this figure is never achieved , or not for a long time
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35 minutes ago, Nismooo said:I dont really see how 15 deaths is good news... same as yesterday.
I like comparing with Vietnam and Taiwan, because thats living proof on how to deal with a pandemic...
I prefer Tonga or Nauru, , because that's living proof of not needing to bow to this "pandemic "
No death is good, but compared to the many hundreds of deaths each day in Thailand, its still only a very small number
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49 minutes ago, jackdd said:
What are you even doing at the immigration office? Just don't do it.
perhaps its either because I'm doing my 90 day, ( last week) or its because they ring me up and insist i go down , (January)
Not sure how long i could ignore them for, managed around 2 weeks before they rang the missus and insisted we go down, or else !
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4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:
OP, you mention returning to your house.
Why do you even need a TM30.
In Nakhon Phanom they always insist on a TM30 when returning to house, often even if having one night away in hotel
Tried to tell them, showed the change of rules, but as always here, i get the standard " I not understand" and told to go away and do it
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On 4/22/2021 at 8:07 AM, faraday said:
this should be shown on Thai tv, every night, like they did in the UK
most will probably ignore, but worth a try
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34 minutes ago, meechai said:Impossible in a country like Thailand
How would you have a hard lock down in a country that is Talad/fresh market based for their daily needs?
Do you know any Thai's at all that do not shop daily for food?
Thailand has to hope it never see's something like India’s double mutant variant
Yes they can close shops, gyms,bars, what ever but they cannot stop the close contact that is Thailand's daily markets
But still only 129 deaths up to 24/4/2021, so doing quite well considering the limited closures and lockdowns
Yes it COULD get much bigger, but also COULD slow down
Still more chance of dying on the toilet for most elderly people on here
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1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:Ok, what is this article? Please share so we can all learn, yes?
And now once again for the 100th time I think in this forum, the issue with Covid is not the direct deaths, it is the disruption it causes, because;
- ICUs become filled
- basic medical care miust be suspended because it can not be delivered when there is a deadly infectious respiratory disease epidemic
- the economy is disrupted because so many people would become ill if prevention measures are not taken.
Yes, the flu can and does cause death, but people who are in good health can recover. Even people in poor health can recover. Unfortunately, with the new variants, Covid is now an equal opportunity killer.
Yes the opinion you dismiss was correct. No need to come back in 3 weeks because the information is available now. All you have to do is look instead of denying reality. For example, this was posted on another thread, but applies here: Canada is one of the countries that now has all of the variants infecting the population and it is able to provide a good indication of impact of variants that will soon hit Thailand;
Ontario is seeing a great number of young Canadians dying at home with COVID-19, with an average of two people a day. Over the past two weeks there has been 25 deaths of people who have died at home, 16 were under the age of 60 https://nationalpost.com/news/significant-number-of-young-people-are-dying-at-home-with-covid-19-ontario-coroner
This is very different result than the experience with the original wild Wuhan version of the infection. In early days, young people were not dying. Now with new variants, young people are being hit.
I also see that there is sad news from Canada and USA about the impact of Covid on children. The new wave is sending more to hospital and they are in worse shape. A search will show you articles that report the facts;
-Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) is a delayed immune reaction to COVID that can occur 2-6 weeks after the initial infection.
- It has infected many more children than the first wave did
- Doctors observe that patients now are in a worse state than children admitted last spring.
“We’re seeing more severe cases than the first wave. The children are sicker. A third of our children have gone into our intensive care unit,” said Dr. Scuccimarri, explaining the illness can cause low blood pressure. Without the medical support they get in an ICU the children could die. To her knowledge, no children in Canada have died from MIS-C, but deaths have been reported in the United States and countries in Europe.
i thought this original post was about Thailand, where very very few deaths have occurred to date, \Or do we get to pick and choose any country we wish and discuss them, if so, i choose Nauru m or even Tonga
Yes, the covid can and does kill, yet people in good health can recover, even people in poor health can recover, both the flu and covid viruses are equal opportunity killer's
There, just changed the word flu, to covid for you
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2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:
It is so easy for you to hand wave away 600,000 deaths, so you can go to the pub and have a beer.
Short sighted, too, as long as this virus is out of control, it may mutate into a form that kills you. Lockdowns reduce mutations.
i like the word " MAY"
just like the words, possibly, could, if, They say so much, yet mean so little
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8 hours ago, Danderman123 said:
So far, it has resulted about 50 deaths a day, but deaths generally lag new infections by 3 weeks.
So, you can tell the next thousand or so dead Canadians that they were gaslighted into fearing the epidemic.
i should say this as gently as possible, but in what world don’t you fear a widespread disease that has killed 3 million people?
in a world where around 55.5 million people die each year
and especially in Thailand, where the deaths is less than 150 in 16 months,
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7 hours ago, AlexRich said:
Just read an article in the UK’s Sunday Times, about sufferers of long Covid, and they went from a 9 year old to a 47 year old, all of the people interviewed are struggling many months after contracting the virus. So how do we protect “the vulnerable” when they cover such a wide spectrum of society?i also read an article about the long term effects from the flu virus, , struggling for months, even years , that effects people of all ages , just like this covid virus does
Oops, i forgot, the flu does not kill or cause damage to people, only covid does this
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8 hours ago, Danderman123 said:
No.
in the US, suicide rates have plunged by 20%.
Thanks for playing.
but in Thailand, which is what this posts are supposed to be about, suicides have increased ?
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9 hours ago, Danderman123 said:
Not.
You will be shocked how many younger, healthy types will succumb over the next few weeks. It’s called a Cytokine storm, and it’s a way for Covid to kill healthy people.
Shocked , Nope
Interested, yes, interested in seeing whether your opinion is correct or not
come back in say 3 weeks, and show us the number of deaths and the ages of these people, including which ones had underlying illnesses
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25 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:
You are conflating two very different viruses as if they are the same and applying the same ill thought out logic with one as you are the other.
The ONLY reason flu kills so many people each year is there is still a relatively low uptake of the vacine each year. In America for example, only about half the people who should be getting a jab actually get a jab
https://www.valuepenguin.com/coronavirus-influenza-vaccines. It is similar figures in many western countrries and a great deal less everywhere else.
If the uptake was greater, the infections and deaths would be lower. We don't accept this, but because the numbers are still relatively low and freedom of choice unfortunately overides sensibilities, it doesn't get the same headlines.
Covid on the other hand is much more transmissable and much, much more deadly. This idea that they are similar and 'what's all the fuss about, we have flu each year and we live with that' is spurious, unhelpful and often the same argument as covid deniers or anti-vaxxers use. You are ceratinly not the latter but your comparisons diminish the severity of Covid and that is neither accurate nor helpful.
That's the part that you need to understand.
Thanks for this
But are you saying that one or two vaccinations will stop you getting the flu virus, or is it required each and every year, like it appears to be in the UK, which has quite a high take up of this vaccine, yet still suffers many deaths
Are you also saying that the Covid vaccine will give you complete immunity from the Covid virus, or will you be required to have an annual vaccination to hopefully provide immunization?
So freedom of choice overrides sensibilities ? So you advocate mass enforced vaccinations for the population , ?
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5 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:For gods sake IT'S NOT THE FLU. If we try and 'accept and live with it' like the flu, millions more will die.
How many times does this have to be discussed? It's 14 months and you still are uneducated. It has to be willfully uneducated by now as there really is no excuse..
what part did you not understand ?
it too difficult for you to read properly ? perhaps you should look to your education before calling out others
We have had the flu virus for many many years and each year have many many deaths, yet we accept them
The covid will not go away, like the flu, it will always be here and will kill people each year, for which we must also accept them
both are viruses, and both kill, but with the vaccines, covid deaths will be greatly reduced, just like in developed countries with the flu vaccines
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6 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:
No one is denying that the majority have underlying health conditions but my post was in reply to someone who mentioned it ONLY affected the old, obese or those with previous conditions.
And if you want Thai examples then:-
'One of them was a 25-week pregnant woman, 32, a resident of Bangkok. She reportedly contracted Covid-19 from visiting a crowded area and started to have fever and cough on April 8'.
https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000197thanks
thats at least one out of 66 million then
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3 hours ago, Derek B said:I am okay with all your comments and observations and understand not thinking it a wise move to enter the boot of your car on entry to a Thai National Park.
The need to seal the Thai land borders is absolute - tourism can wait until all in country have been vaccinated at least twice.
Covid and the like are here to stay globally. Best to get used to it.
And in Thailand, how many years will that take ?
What is the supposed life of the vaccine, 6 months ?
Its here to stay, just like the flu virus, which we accept and live with too, which, like the Covid, will continue to kill the weak and susceptible
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3 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:
Conversations don't have links
so you cannot show any posts with these words ?
So you know of no one who has used these words ?
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5 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:You mean aprt from https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-briton-21-with-no-existing-health-conditions-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-11963451
Or even https://abcnews.go.com/US/wrecked-lives-families-young-adults-died-covid-19/story?id=74148061
It is NOT just the obese or people with underlying health conditions. Please educate yourself.
very good, but this is about Thailand isn't it ?
But the vast majority of deaths, in Thailand, are from people with underlying health problems
Yes, just like many other illnesses, there are some people who are supposedly young and fit, yet succumb to this virus
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since when did field hospitals have nice tiled floor and nice ceilings like in the photo ?
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3 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:I am affraid that now is the time for the Thai government to be humbled by this little virus.
seems like this virus was sent from hell to humble governments all around the world.
First it started in china, than moved quickly to italy, than brought the u..s. and u.k. to their
knees, while skapping whole latine america with its tail.
now, is the time of Thailand. The measures announced are obviously insuficient.
daily infections will soon rise to 20-30 000 a day. if they are not allready there.
and the result of these guesses of yours will be ?
So your guess is up to 30,000 perfectly healthy people will, if tested, be found to possible have an infection , yet have no other symptoms ?
Yet out of these many thousands, how many will die or be treated in ICU ?
I think 97 deaths in 16 months would be a very good number, no matter what the virus/illness was
Nobody runs scared from catching the flu virus, which kills many many thousands, yet want to ruin the lives of millions for 97 deaths ?
So much fear, for such a "deadly" virus
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2 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:
To all the posters that have to compare the covid virus, to car accidents and other things that kill people.
When you are lying face down in a hospital bed with tubes in you and are trying to recover from covid, could you please put out a
post to give us all a comparison, of how covid is treating you? Thanks in advance.
Geezer
can we say the same about the many thousands of people lying in hospital with the much more deadly flu, in Thailand ?
Remind me again how many have died from the "deadly" virus in Thailand over 16 months ? 97 ?
Deaths from the much more "deadly" flu virus in Thailand in the same period , ? 17,040
Now tell me which one i should be more worried about
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4 minutes ago, Susco said:
All my tabs, except the kitchen one, are VRH. Haven't had a failure yet in 9 years.
The kitchen tab is one of those which you can pull out, brought fom Aldi in Europe for the equivalent of 800 Baht, and is also still working fine
Thanks, but its a bit of a long way to get to the nearest Aldi, so will have to give that a miss. I think most taps bought in the UJ will last for many many years without problems, usually only changed due to refurbishment of the rooms
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On 4/10/2021 at 12:12 PM, Jeffr2 said:
Where are those members that said this was just scare mongering by the government? Right...
600 is just the tip of the iceberg.
600 people found with the infection, which means nothing, it could be 1,000s, but due to minimal testing , the true figure is unknown
But crucially, no reports of people in ICUs or any additional deaths
97 deaths in 16 months from Covid, and everybody runs scared
1,867 average deaths from the flu in the same time period, and nobody even notices or cares
Seems its not so deadly in Thailand
Thailand reports 2,012 new coronavirus cases, 15 new deaths
in Thailand News
Posted
3,000 mark ?
Infections or deaths ?