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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:
Some government hospitals are doing this now, mainly ones located in places with a lot of foreigners.
Government hospitals which don't have many foreigners are usually not doing this. But that's nto much help if you live in an area where it is done.
There is no regulation against it, in fact the official government hospital price guide (which is widely ignored as most hospitals charge more) explicitly lists different pricing according to nationality. So no grounds for making a complaint.
Sounds like this is all in the past tense but for future reference, when it is just for IV antibiotics there is often a regimen option that is just once a day dosing in which case you can easily go in each day and have it done outpatient.
Well I’m out now, and the bill for one nights stay, plus 2 I’ve drips came to around 5,950 baht
no option for reducing drips, nor for having them as an outpatient, no room, no drips as the doctor kept telling us
lesson learnt, don’t rust even doctors. Or nurses unless it’s in writing .
just been to the private hospital, same drips, but as an outpatient is fine, so cost each day is half that of the state hospital, but with better service too.
for anyone who thinks I’m wrong, please feel free to ask at Sakon Nakhon main hospital for farang prices on private rooms .
I also liked the cold mushroom soup and the frozen burger for tea last night, all I had to do was hobble down the corridor and join the queue for the microwave oven in the corridor , almost as good as the cold corn soup and dry cornflakes this morning
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3 hours ago, Tarteso said:
Apart of the problem “dual price”..Can they pay the bill in the event of an accident or do they have to wait for good Samaritan?
Many I know can, bu5 there will always be some that can’t
just like many can’t get, or afford the high insurance premiums
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1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:I would imagine that most foreigners have insurance so won't have to pay the "dual price" themselves.
Most foreigners I know do not have insurance due to cost and age
whichwould not be such a problem if dual pricing did not exist
we already pay much more for the treatments, so why rip us off for the room prices, it has no bearing on the running costs
but it was more the fact that the price increased by 100% from being given a room number, to actually staying in it , and even worse, such a poor room
anyone know why, in a hospital, which promotes cleanliness and hygiene, , they will not provide you with the facility to wash and dry your hands after using the toilet, and no hot water either ?
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Hi there
had to go to hospital for some minor treatment that involved one or two nights stay
booked a private room in the state hospital, price 1,600 but a night
turned up yesterday morning, got paperwork sorted and got a room organised
while waiting for transport to room, lady tells me the price is now 2,000 baht because “ I’m a farang”
not happy and told her so, but not going to argue over it
gets settled into room, has first drip done, blood test and x ray , then wait for doctor to visit
when he comes , many hours later, he asks if I. Ok paying for room, and can I afford it, so I asked which price am I paying, 1,600, or 2, 000
to which he replied no, farang price is 3,200 now, and I want you to stay 5 nights now
i pointed out the room is old and dated, in an old section of the hospital, there is no soap or towels to wash my hands after toilet, no water to drink, you insist i have friend/ relative to help, and then want them to sleep on a 4 foot wooden settee , and you now want to double the price because I’m a farang ?
The treatment needed is only a hook up to a antibiotic drip for 10 minutes, twice a day, but he refused to allow me treatment without staying in the room
even the nurse admitted it was bad, but the big boss had told them to double the price for farangs
Anyone else have this happens to them
can’t fault the nurses, but the system stinks to high heaven
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am i missing something here
I thought it was the hotels problem to notify immigration not his, so why would this effect his extension ?
If it does effect him, why can he not just do a TM30 before asking for extension.
I had to do this in my I.O , even though the hotel had notified immigration, but immigration still insisted i had to do a TM30, because i had been in a hotel, before they would let me do my 90 day report
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23 hours ago, Nout said:
You can't eat or drink with a mask on!!
Your right
but you can catch the virus with a mask off !
but that’s how silly it getting. No matter what restrictions, what care you take, there are times and places where you will need to remove your mask, which while minimising the risk, still leaves you wide open to the virus
they have restrictions, like only 6 people together, and it’s safe, but if 7, it’s dangerous ? Does the virus know that ?
while having the vaccine may help, it may also make us complacent, thinking we cannot catch the virus, that we are immune for ever, and that we cannot spread the infection .
so many unknown yet, will be a long time before we know the true facts about the vaccines and the virus, and maybe many many years before we get some sort of immunity from it, and like the flu, we will have to accept a certain amount of deaths each year
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18 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:I think the covid 'passport' is definitely on the cards for international air travel.
This damn virus doesn't seem to recognize national boundaries, and especially with these new new super transmittable variants governments are going to get twitchy, especially if they have suppressed it in their country.
This is really no different to the mask wearing concept. I had a 'conversation' with a particularly unruly passenger last week who wouldn't obey the instructions to wear a mask.
"Sir, You have choices. Wear a mask as instructed, or drive to your destination. If not you don't travel on this aircraft and I suggest the car rental desks in the terminal"
That was one of many encounters I've had recently
So 200 people all wear a mask to get on a plane to travel
Yet 200 people all remove their mask for up to 1 hour while eating and drinking
does the virus know something we don't ?
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46 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:
You fell head first into the numbers trap with reliance on figures posted by the Thai government safer asking is it black or white to the colour blind ????
ahhh, but you have fallen into the trap of not believing the Thai authorities
Do you have any facts to show they are wrong ?
I'm not saying you are wrong, cos who the hell can believe anything the goverment says, but without any other facts to dispute their claims, we can only accept them at face value.
And as far as paperwork for travelling, Khaosan road is your friend
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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:
I have never heard of a embassy stating a time period before you could apply for another visa after having a application denied.
I don't think the lack of info from Thai Elite is their fault. They probably only were informed of the denial by immigration with no info.
One option you have is to apply for a single entry tourist visa or enter the country visa exempt to get a 45 day entry that can be extended for 30 days. You could then apply for a 90 day non-o visa entry at immigration and then a one year extension of stay based upon retirement.
You will need 800k baht in a Thai bank on the day you apply for the non-o visa with proof it was transferred abroad or proof of 65k baht income. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you would apply for the extension when the 800k baht has been in the bank for 2 months.
Need to check with your local immigration office regarding the 2 months , Ours still insists on 3 months before, fined the other year for being 1 day late of their so called , 3 months, and refused to accept the official paperwork i showed them stating 2 months
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23 minutes ago, jackdd said:
I think it has to be the original ID card and copy of house book.
Thais can do the transfer at any DLT, so you could just do the transfer in your wife's name while you are there already. This also saves you the province transfer fee, the fee for a new plate and a trip to "your" DLT.
would be so much easier then to do this
Thanks for your help
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4 hours ago, jackdd said:
No, but if you experience any problems with the papers when you are back in your province and after you have paid already, it might be difficult to correct such issues, depending on the seller of course.
Thus the best option is to do the transfer together with the seller and hand the money over when the DLT gives you the OK regarding the papers. The problem as a foreigner is of course that usually the DLT wants a certificate of residence from immigration in the same province. (I've seen a few contrary reports where a COR from another province was accepted, but usually they won't).
The official name is Department of Land Transport (DLT), as can be seen on their website: https://www.dlt.go.th/en/
i note the problems with the certificate, and due to the last certificate i needed took almost 8 weeks to get with 8 visits, would it be much easier if i put the book in my missus name ?
Im happy to have her name in the book, have signed my other paperwork on the other bikes and car ready for if, and when i pop my clogs
I guess she would just need copy of ID card and house book ?
Would it be better if i go to the sellers DLT office with seller, get the paperwork and bike checked out,, if ok, do a bank transfer, and then do the book transfer in my own province at my leisure ?
Thanks for your help, much appreciated
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48 minutes ago, eisfeld said:
You need to have address proof in order to transfer the bike into your name which means usually certificate of residence unless for example you have a work permit which states your residential address. You go to the DLT, not the land office (that one is for land titles as the name implies). The DLT in the province where you reside.
Thanks eisfeld
I understand that part, i need to register it in my own province
But do i need to go to the DLT with the seller in his province to do anything, or do i just get him to sign and get copies of his passport, etc, which i then take to my local DLT, along with my paperwork ?
Do i need to do any checks before i ride away with the bike back to my province ?
Sorry for so many questions, but have only ever bought new before from dealer
Thanks again
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Hi there, just reading about changing the ownership of a bike if i buy it
Go with seller to Land office, check out the bike and do the change of ownership there ?
But, it says i would need a certificate of residency
Only just got this certificate for my licence renewal, which took weeks to get
do i need to get a certificate, before buying ? The other paperwork is no bother, i think
and if i buy in another province, how does that work ?
Probably a simple answer for a simple person, but would appreciate some advice
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2 hours ago, Peter Denis said:
Are you filing a new TM-30 each time you return to your place of residence?
Be aware that since end of June last year, that this is not required anymore.
A TM-30 has to be filed only once of you staying at the premisses, and it stays valid as long as you do not enter Thailand on a different Visa, irrespective of any domestic or even international travels.
Thanks
ut would be good if you could tell my immigration office that too
tried that myself, told No, no you do, they want a TM30 for every hotel stay !
last time I was there, gave them a copy of the police order showing it’s no longer required, but think they will ignore it,
out I.O is getting worse, they just made my friend get a certificate from doctor and clinic because he had been to Pattaya, last September, plus a TM 30 , if not, no90 day renewal !
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18 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:
That message can be caused by many things. Basically it means your record could not be found.
Often it is an error when entering the info on page one. Double check that you entered all the required fields correctly and used the drop down menus and calendars.
Thanks
Just re tried it a couple of times, no luck
managed to do it once last year, since then, no luck , so looks like another round trip
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5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:
Apparently you are using this web address that bypasses the first page.
https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do?cmd=acceptTerm
This one takes you to page one. https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do
Thanks Ubonjoe
easy when you know how
but , just filled in the online report, then box pops up, " see your local immigration office "
Was trying to avoid going there, cos they have been playing silly beggars with TM47, TM 30s and many other things
Took me almost 9 weeks to get the certificate to renew my licence , and have done at least 3 TM30s since November
But thanks again
Much appreciated
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38 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:
i would, but this section is not appearing on my screen
no terms and conditions come up prior to the next page
i only get the blue/green/orange box appearing
i click on the link "immigration.gov, 90 day online, TM47 action do, accept terms ", but no page appears with terms, just the page with the 3 boxes on
Thanks ubonjoe
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Hi there
probable me being a bit thick, but i need to accept the terms, before opening up the 90 day reporting box
But, i cant find this "accept terms" box
When i click on the link to do so, it just takes me straight to the 90 day reporting page, with nowhere for me to "accept terms "
can anyone help me please, , would be much appreciated
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would be good if we started putting on the death certificate, died by vaccine, if vaccine given within 28 days of death
Bit like they do with the covid deaths
wonder what those figures would be ?
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On 1/18/2021 at 7:32 AM, PeeJayEm said:
The answer is obviously YES - and it is also obvious that you ought to have had similar insurance in place before in any case. - Who else will pay it for you ? - or for the cost of hospitalisation you may require even if not related to covid? I- t's a fundamental basic provision every expat living in Thailand should have put in place for themselves from day one arriving in Thailand.
Ahhh
so all ex pats living here should have similar insurance in place
But that is not what is stating is it ?
it specifically says 100,000 usd insurance, and this insurance only, so may have a much better insurance, like many have, but still be refused unless you take out this specific insurance
So you say all expats should have insurance, pay stupid premiums after 65- 70 years old, rather than keep money in the bank for such emergencies ?
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56 minutes ago, Schlepenstein said:
You need 2 separate documents for Fit to Fly and Covid test. Even if you get them at one clinic make sure they give you 2 separate papers.
This is from instructions after getting CoE:
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1. After the receipt of COE, please prepare the additional documents to declare at the check-in counter as follows
- 1.1 Passport and valid Thai visa/ re-entry permit (if required)
- 1.2 Certificate of Entry (COE)
- 1.3 Fit to Fly Health Certificate. (Thailand’s Health Control requires a hard copy version.)
- 1.4 Medical certificate with a laboratory result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected, using RT-PCR test, issued within 72 hours before departure (in case of connecting flights, before embarkation from initial port).
- 1.5 Insurance or letter from employer guaranteeing that the insurance company or employer will cover a minimum of 100,000 USD of medical costs incurred by the applicant in Thailand, including medical costs in the event that applicant contracts COVID-19 (The insurance must cover the total duration of stay in Thailand)
- 1.6 T.8 Form (Health Declaration Form). You can download T.8 Form at https://bit.ly/34X6sAJ
quick question
section 1.5, it staes must have the 100, 000 usd insurance, ut then goes on to say, ' must cover the durations of stay in Thailand "
so how does that work for people living here ?
are we sup[posed to have, and keep renewing this same insurance for every year we live here, possibly, and hopefully, for the next 20 or 30 years ?
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On 1/11/2021 at 12:07 AM, CanadaSam said:
so this is a fit to fly certificate as used in the uk, and acceptable to Thailand ?
so anyone can copy this and make a simple stamp on it ?
How would immigration know to check any forged stamp or medical licence number ?
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They charge 100 baht here in Nakhon Phanom
Going to get my one on Monday, after i have done my visit to the immigration to get this certificate
Been trying to renew my licence since November , fingers crossed for next Monday
8 times to Immigration
4 Times to DLT
4 medicals at 100 baht a time
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6 hours ago, mr mr said:
going to coin a new phrase on this thread. soon those who refuse to take the vaccine will be labelled as *the resisters*
you will hold out for a while and kick and scream. it's my right. not into my body. bla bla bla. then when your world starts getting smaller. limited. you watch as people around you have freedom of movement etc. you will succumb.
how much for any copy of any certificate for flying and travelling from koasan road !,000 baht ?
So easy to get certificates, rather than paying silly money for the vaccines
Dual pricing in hospitals now ?
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But like many, I find the insurance at my age ridiculous, so always have funds, both here and in U.K. to cover these things
its not really about the price, which is a rip off for what is provided, but the way farang s are treated .. but it’s getting to the point where I could stay in a private hospital, with free WiFi , much better room, much better service and still cost almost the same