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2 hours ago, mlmcleod said:

Are you serious?  That is the same attitude that allowed Covid to spread all over the USA during the Trump administration!

But it's worked so far, has it not ?

I would have thought  that 97 deaths over 16 months, while no vaccines and doing very little is a very good outcome, 

And this is Thailand, not the good old US of A, so no comparison

Why do we have many thousands of infections here in Thailand, yet so few deaths ?

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why would I want to show otherwise, it was your claim and I was just asking you to support it, thanks, you can't

why would i need to support it

16 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Over the past year I doubt I've seen more than a dozen or so people not wearing a mask. Maybe Bangkok, where I'm not, or Pattaya where I'm not, are different. As to why so few deaths, do you think that closing the borders almost from day one might have had something to do with it. Like in several other SE Asian countries which have also kept the figures down.

 

It is only recently that we've heard about people crossing the local borders, with or without the help of corrupt officials, with the result that Thailand can now, by allowing outsiders in, follow other countries in having an escalating crisis - ably assisted by a government that encouraged people to travel out of red zones to the provinces. It's almost as if they wished thousands to perish. Time will tell if they have succeeded.

I made a statement, that , unless you can prove otherwise, must be taken as true.

You cannot disprove my statement so therefore it must be true 

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'm not saying anything apart from asking how you know there are no increases in ICU cases?? Understand, you are the one who said there was not so how do you know?

Ok, i will rephrase that

There are no reported cases of increased ICU admissions on this forum 

is that better ?

Or maybe you could show otherwise ?.

6 hours ago, newnative said:

   Pity the government has failed so miserably at item #2 on his list.  No vaccine in adequate numbers and, now, not even testing kits in adequate numbers.  Gross incompetence.  

so no vaccines, and limited testing, yet only 97 deaths ?

and you call that gross incompetence ?

6 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

If only.  Thailand never had plan for dealing with the virus other than shutting down the country last year .what came next was .mai pen rai

well it certainly seems to be working does it not ?

97 deaths out of millions is one that any other country would love to have

8 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Already short of hospital beds, limited testing kits, virtually no vaccines...

Songkran national holiday allowing inter provincial travel.

what could possibly go wrong...

Prayut & Co should bow out now.

short of hospital beds ? 

Is this due to confining healthy people in them , people who just happen to test positive, yet are otherwise healthy.

How many are in intensive care and how many are dying ? Surely that is the thing we should be looking at, not the infection rate

I'm sure if you tested for the flu, you would have very high numbers too, of otherwise perfectly healthy people, with very few ICUs and deaths

16 hours ago, mlmcleod said:

Perhaps the government can take a few of the baht budgeted for submarines and get the lead out on vaccinations.  The rest of the world seems to be vaccinating like crazy but not Thailand.  Vaccination is the only way to control the pandemic!

control what, exactly ?

Infections, ?

doing nothing seems to be working very well so far, 16 months and so few deaths

why spend billions on semi useless vaccines to save so few lives ?

better to spend billions on preventing road deaths and liver fluke cancers, that effects almost every family in Thailand, rather than what appears to be nothing worse than the flu to the Thai population 

16 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

The nearly 3 million who have died might not agree with you on that.

but they did not live in Thailand, did they ?

its been over 16 months now, so why has Thailand not had such large numbers as other countries ?

No social distancing, limited mask wearing, inter province travelling, yet so few deaths, why ?

Do they have some sort of immunity ?

why are ex pats not dying like flies, as per other countries  ?

17 hours ago, Bkktodd said:

Meanwhile 9 in 10 farangs walk around Pattaya without masks.  In their own little covid free world

and you have some figures for how many of these "sad:" farangs have caught the virus and either been treated in ICU, or have died ??

so much fear for so few deaths and hospitalizations, 

yet people continue to drive cars and ride bikes without such fear, which is many many more times likely to kill you 

18 hours ago, Donga said:

Let's see if this turns out be the huge wave Thailand was "lucky" enough to avoid previously, or whether they can bring it under control in a reasonable time frame say 2 months. Which is my projection, why:

1. Govt is not so ineffectual as some portray as they have the contact tracing capabilities, strong quarantine processes and health volunteers to assist, particularly in the provinces.
2. Thai society (apart from HiSos, a distinct minority) are community conscious and will don the masks, social distance more effectively than the Europeans and most other countries.

Be personally responsible, like most Thais, and by June it will be like it was for most of the time, compared to the rest of the world. The numbers are still controllable and well below what many countries have endured.
 

Are you for real ????

Thais social distance ??

Personally responsible ? 

How many Thais wear  masks unless told to , and even then watch them lower them on entry to shops and malls

You ever go shopping or go to bars and restaurants  ? See how they social distance, ha ha ha

Huge wave of what, infections ? Why would this year be any different to last year, when  so few were in ICUs and so few deaths , and with none , or very little social distancing 

20 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

What you will see depends entirely on the amount of testing being done, there's no chance at all that it's not already well over 2000 cases per day.

 

2000 cases a day, ( nice guesswork),  yet no increase in deaths ?

so not really turning out to be deadly in Thailand is it ?

19 hours ago, elliss said:

 

     That was the procedure  for Covid , last year ...

     That was a trial run ..

     This time ,  Thai Goverment allows .

       Unlimited travel restrictions  on Songkran Festival .

      Thais are , jam packed on the buses from BKK , to Issan .

        I fear , the worse ...

keep hiding then and leave others to get on with life 

Testing, or no testing, still results in very few ICU admissions and even fewer deaths ,

20 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Maybe there is an increase in ICU how can you say there is not?

 

Deaths always have a lag in time surely you know that? Its only been a week since this new wave started

but what happened on the last wave ?

are you saying we had massive increases in ICU admissions with large increases in deaths too ?

if not, why would this be different 

1 hour ago, multatuli said:

the thai mentality: we are a superior breed, and nothing can happen ro us. Again and again.

and what exactly is happening to the Thais ?

very few emergency admissions, even fewer deaths

why ?

Without the media hype, how many people would even know about this so called "deadly" virus ?

Yet people run scared of something that effects so few, while ignoring the many thousands of deaths from other causes 

35 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

The Gov,t will never take the actions that are needed to try and bring the Covid Virus under control in Thailand.

Its all about the Money. The center of the Universe for all Thais.

IMHO, the Government have overstretched on the War Toys procurement, ( among other things )that they say have to be purchased for National Security. This has left the Coffers severely drained of Money.

Now the security of the Country is severely threatened by something no War  Toy can combat, and there is no Money left to fight the thing.

Yes ! The Government could borrow more Money, but they are already close to the predetermined borrowing limit to GDP imposed upon them.

The  end result is what we are seeing happen in front of our very Eyes today

and what is it we are seeing ?

an over reaction to a virus that effects so few of the population of Thailand as to be almost un newsworthy

Yes we have infection, the true numbers unknown, but the numbers in ICU beds, the numbers dying ?

More people die each week from liver fluke cancer, more people die in 2 days in road accidents, yet we do not close the country down and ruin the lives of millions

Why are we seeing so few infections, so few emergency cases, and even fewer deaths , if this virus is so deadly.

Closing bars and and venues , while allowing crowded markets and shops, cannot stop this spread, 

5 hours ago, internationalism said:

that high figures infected means around 150 deaths daily.

already the last week in bangkok hospitals beds were full and shortage of tests.

those field hospitals will take time to arrange. It's not only beds, but personel and basic equipment and supplies of ppe

 

Hospital beds are full ? 

Of people who have tested positive, yet show little or no symptoms ?

How many are in ICU beds, and how many have died ?

Why put infected people in hospitals, why not let them isolate elsewhere, or if not, why not stick them in the field hospitals ?y get full service in the hospitals, free meals , room service , etc, ?

We keep hearing about an increase in cases, but if no tests were carried out before, how do you know how many there are, and if these are an increase, or a decrease in actual cases ?

if we have these large increase in infections, why do we not have a corresponding increase in ICU admissions and in deaths ?

I'm curious 

How do they know that there has been such an increase in infections, unless they have increased the testing ?

If they were not testing before, how do they know the number of infected ?

With none, or limited testing, how can they know how many of the population have been infected ?

They talk of increased infections, but no mention of the number of people in ICUs , or people suffering from long term sickness due to this virus

97 people have died from this "deadly" virus in around 16 months, less than 2 a week, and how many of these 97 had other underlying illnesses ?

They complain of hospitals being overwhelmed, yet continue to put healthy people in them , instead of either letting them self isolate, or keep them in field hospitals

They continue to use words like, could, possibly, maybe, if,  which say so much, yet mean so little. 

We had big increases of infections last year, yet so very few deaths os sicknesses, why should it be different this year ?

Ask around your town or villages and see how many people have friends or relatives who have died or been hospitalized due to this virus, yet  they run scared due to the constant hype from the media

How many would have known or even noticed the few deaths and sickness out of such a large population , without the media hype ?

Why do they continue to ruin the economy  and the lives of millions for what is in reality, such a small number of deaths , yet accept the many many thousands of deaths from the roads, river fluke cancers, etc .

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO) has received 1 million doses of Sinovac Covid-19 vaccine from China on Saturday.

 

GPO Director Dr Withoon Danwiboon said this vaccine is the third lot from a total of 2 million doses that the GPO has purchased from Sinovac Life Sciences Co Ltd from China.

 

At the end of April, another lot of 500,000 doses of Sinovac vaccine will arrive. They are a part of the additional vaccines that the GPO has ordered to complement the Ministry of Public Health’s plan to inoculate target groups who are at high risk of contracting Covid-19.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157942847812050

 

only another 24 million need then

At this rate it will be many years before they get round to vaccinating everyone, and what's the life of the vaccine, 6 months ?

It would appear that this "deadly" virus is not so deadly to the Thai people , with only 97 ? deaths in over 1 year, yet many thousands of infected people  , the true number of which is unknown

9 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Do you live here in Thailand or elsewhere.  Thailand's way of dealing with this virus has always been to isolate a person in a hospital whether asymptomatic or symptomatic.  The other way they have dealt with it has been to place you in a field hospital and when symptoms showed up carted you off to the hospital.  The final way they dealt with it was to ring entire factories with barbed wire and lock all inside, just like they did with the migrant workers in Samut Sakhon.  It is done this way because in the early days of the virus spreading, folks that were asked to quarantine at home, think little ghosts as they are called, failed to follow the orders and then went out partying.  Thai people do not listen to orders or follow rules often, and the "I feel Fine" "What do you mean I can not go out" crowd will never be kept inside, and so mandatory hospitalization was enacted.  Think about all of those with little money who also share a 25 sqm apartment with 5 or 6 others, and rely on buying food from street vendors, and the local 7-11.  How would you isolate them in their home from the others and still get them the needed food.  Nice try Hoax, but the reality here is they are and will be hospitalized until this government decides to try again, but then those that live in crowded conditions must be separated to contain the spread.

amazing, if as you say, all these people ignored the quarantine when we have the virus, but even more amazing how so few people suffered any real symptoms and how very few have died from this " deadly" virus

So we have many more cases appearing around the country, of which the true numbers are unknown, yet no extra deaths, very few in ICU , yet people ruin the country, ruin the lives of millions and run scared from it, when in reality, you have a much greater chance of dying going to your local 7-11

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8 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

 

True but try getting onto a plane without one...

 

seems to work for incoming and outgoing Thais

Friend flew from Dubai before xmas, no test prior to flying, only quarantine on arrival

Just flew back to Dubai last week, again no testing prior to flying, only tested at Dubai with 1 day quarantine