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10 minutes ago our local PEA meter reader called and posted the bill in our letter box. This month has hit an all time low (in terms of purchasing from the PEA) since I installed our small scale system 15 months ago. We only needed to purchase just 47 units, which cost us a massive 236.68 THB, or 5.036 THB/unit.
Our small scale system produced 81% of our household needs (198 Units) this month which meant a saving of 997 THB off our electric bill ????.
I confirm from our current bill (as shown below), that as indicated by @MJCM in one of his earlier posts, the discount on the FT has been discontinued and we are now paying the full FT cost of 0.9434 THB/unit. Obviously this has increased the overall unit cost from 4.2 THB/unit last month to 5.036 THB/unit this month ????.
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2 hours ago, Pink7 said:
Just made my first MC4 solar cable.. watched YouTube instruction when making it and it come out quite ok. I need to use 2 sets of MC4 tools because LINK * the company) use the black tool and the Panels the orange tool. Its different in the way the pins attach the mc4.
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@Pink... I appreciate that your photos show your initial attempt at making an MC4 connection, but a serious word of warning. Always ensure that the colour of the input and output wires are the same.
In your photo below you show a Red wire connecting to a Black wire. If that was for real, considering the potential power of your system, you are most likely going to encounter some very expensive 'magic smoke'.
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Sorry, but two things don't quite ring right with this story.
Firstly. According to the linked BBC article, Adam Davies "sustained a fractured skull, bleed on the brain, punctured lung, broken ribs, broken clavicle, broken scapular and a fractured ankle". Quite a tally of injuries and he's very lucky to be alive.
But take a close look at the published photo of him. He looks remarkably well considering his recent trauma, relaxing on the beach, under the shade of a tree somewhere, enjoying a cool drink. OK he's still got a chest drain in, but it would appear that he's out of hospital and that might indicate that someone has paid his hospital bill.
Secondly. Several forum members have commented on the need to read the 'small print' in the insurance policy.
FYI... approximately 15 years ago the UK Financial Ombudsman, who also oversees the insurance business in the UK, directed all UK insurance companies to write their policies in 'Plain Simple English' and clearly state what is, and what is not covered by the policy.
Adam doesn't look stupid and he shouldn't have had any difficulty reading the T&C of his insurance policy before he purchased it. It is noted that he's Welsh, so he could have asked for a copy in Welsh if that was his preferred language. So it's not a fault of the insurance company if he assumed that the policy covered him for world wide travel for 12 months instead of it being an annual premium that only covers him for short duration (e.g. 1 month) stays outside the UK.
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16 hours ago, TronxII said:I thought the same.
Now you have them already 1 or 2 years, are there any leaks? Could you take a picture from underneath and share here?
I can confirm that there have been no leaks during the 15 months that the panels have been installed on my car port roof. This is possibly due to the silicone sealant which I applied to the feet of the mounting brackets before bolting the bracket down.
Also it should be borne in mind that the top of the panels are almost at the apex of the roof, so when it rains, or when I clean the panels, the panels act as an umbrella for the mounting brackets.
I took a photo a few minutes ago of the underside of the car port roof, as requested. Difficult to see the bracket mounting screws as they intentionally go into the horizontal steel framework of the roof supports.
The only screws holding the mounting brackets which are visible from underneath are the brackets which I added mid panel to help support the panel's weight. One set of screws (marked by arrow) can be seen coming through the cement roof panels. You will notice no trace of water ingress.
The photo below shows the layout of the mounting brackets on the car port roof before the panels were installed.
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15 hours ago, Muhendis said:Those solar panel mounting brackets are a neat idea.
I notice they are fixed to the trough section of the roof material.
Do I also see silicon sealant and rubber washers?
Good bit of engineering there.
Thanks for your comment.
Yes you do see silicon sealant. Before bolting the brackets down I gave the underside of each mounting plate a good coating of silicon sealant. This was to prevent any water getting under the mounting plates and causing leaks via the mounting screws. Has worked well as there has not been any water dripping through the car port roof.
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3 hours ago, nigelforbes said:
It's only within recent years that PM2.5 measurement technology became available on a widespread basis. For many years, Thailand had only five air pollution measuring stations, none of which could measure PM2.5, only PM10. PM2.5 is a sub set of PM10 and can be calculated as a percentage albeit, there is some disagreement about its accuracy, naturally. Regardless of that, a PM2.5 reading is always going to be smaller than a PM10 reading, that is without question. It therefore follows that your PM2.5 reading, translates into a PM10 reading of what, 400, 600, 1,000? FWIW I recall debates on this subject were that the percentage to use in the calculation was 20%.
So if you believe that reading is PM2.5, you may want to check it for accuracy against other measurement methods or devices, failing that, move pretty damned quickly!
FYI.... I've had my little MIC PM 2.5 cube now for about 2 years. Shortly after l purchased it, l stopped by the environmental monitoring van parked outside the entrance gate of Mahidol University, Salaya, and asked the technician to give me her opinion on the little cube.
She confirmed that its output readings were PM 2.5, and she was somewhat suprised at its accuracy. Compared with their very expensive metering system, the cube was reading just a couple of digits above theirs over about 30 minutes.
It may be small, MIC and relatively cheapish, but it appears to be fairly accurate.
It was because of our concerns regarding the pollution possibly created by nearby factories, one being a coffee roasting plant which was using wood burning roasters and no filter system on their output chimney, that l purchased the cube.
Fortunately the coffee roasting plant has changed to gas burners and they have installed a water scouring system to reduce pollution, but their system still occasionally belches soot out of the chimney when the plant starts up after a holiday, like last Tuesday.
When the cube reading gets above 100, doors/windows get closed asap, and the ac is turned on until the numbers come down to below 75.
Its just one of the joys of living in Thailand.
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2 hours ago, Pink7 said:A smaller DIY without battery just sized to get the needed sun power in day time can be very cost effective and very fast ROi like in your case. I suggest that for people here who ask me about solar and budget. Do you have a link to your solar build tread?
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Yes my small scale GTI system has been great and as designed it is happily producing 75% of our daily electricity needs on most days for the past 15 months. Specifically designed the system so that it should not produce a negative meter reading.
As l mentioned previously, using the price of electricity at the date of installation, it will have paid for itself in 2.5 years. Obviously as the price per unit is increased, that 2.5 years will reduce ????.
Do l have a link to my build? No, l piggy backed onto @Crossy original thread Budget solar system on car port.
l have a log of my design/install process and l have thought about starting an epic thread on how to build your own small scale GTI solar system, but a number of other issues took priority last year. May be this year. Watch this space.
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38 minutes ago, Pink7 said:Thanks. My GTI system is small when compared to what you are installing. Total cost of hardware 28,000 THB, no labour costs as it was a DIY install. ROI about 2.5 years, based upon unit cost of electricity = 2.4 THB.
The research, design and install was a great experience and proves that your never to old to learn. That said, I had a great deal of encouragement, advice and support from forum members, in particular from @Crossy.
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On 1/3/2023 at 5:33 PM, nigelforbes said:
That is not a measure of <PM2.5, it looks like it might be PM10. A PM 2.5 reading of 35 would be very unhealthy, 50 would be dangerous.
PM10 figures on the other hand tend to be higher. 80-120 is poor, more than 300 is extremely poor/dangerous.
Sorry to correct you, but it is a PM 2.5 meter, and that was the reading at approximately 9 am on Tuesday morning. As I said, the air was really foul outside the house, and it was like a dense mist hanging around at ground level. The level was definitely in the Danger Zone, hence my comment about needing to get a new gas mask. Thankfully by around 10:30 am it cleared as the sun warmed things up.
I've attached below a picture of from the instruction manual and you will see it clearly mentions PM 2.5. The label on the base of the device also indicates that it's a PM 2.5 meter.
Below is a photo I took about 30 minutes ago which shows a reasonable reading.
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During the initial design stage of my small scale system, I checked with the manufacturer of my panels (Sunpal) and they confirmed that drilling the aluminum side frame members to retain the panels would not invalidate their warranty provided that the drilling did not contact/damage their mounting board. You may wish to do the same with your panel manufacturer so that you have a recorded note confirming that it is OK, or not to drill the side frame members.
As you will see from the photo above I've drilled below the mid point of the frame to ensure that there was good clearance with the actual panel mounting board. As @Crossy said, just be careful.
FYI... The stainless steel panel mounting brackets were made for me by a local tin smith, so as to facilitate easy mounting onto the cement panel roof of my car port and allow a good air gap under the panels.
Good luck with your project
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Yep, the air is foul at the moment. I live on the western outskirts of BKK and the dust is noticeably accumulating on my solar panels.
No signs of any actual burning locally, but suspect the local factories are starting up their processes. This morning at approximately 9 am my little PM 2.5. meter was almost off the scale as shown below.
Time to get a new gas mask !
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4 hours ago, Crossy said:We pay a man (you don't think I clean our panels do you), it's actually the same chap who cuts the grass etc.
Should be plenty of locals who will push the mud around for a nominal fee.
The thought of getting a 'local' to clean them every so often had crossed my mind, but again, who is responsible if they fall off?
My better half has suggested getting someone to construct a 'walk-way' on the car port roof, similar to yours, which would avoid the risk of slipping on the incline. Good idea ????. I think that may be a project for later in the year.
In the short term I'm seriously considering getting an electric solar panel brush system, as shown below.
The motor is 24V (AC-DCconverter supplied), 300RPM. Water supply is connected to nearby tap in garden. Handle extendable from 2M to 7M.
With this I can reach all of the panels comfortably from a step ladder.
Cost about 10K, which is a lot cheaper than the hospital bills might be if I came a cropper.
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3 hours ago, MJCM said:
Re: Cleaning Panels
birds ????. They use the panel edges as their toilets
As a proficient DIYer.. How about a few of these?
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14 hours ago, degrub said:
Black coloured ties should have the highest UV degradation resistance.
As per the OP... Under Solar Panels... so they will be in the shade/dark and little if any UV degradation is likely to occur, so colour is not important.
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I just looked at my panels again this morning - less than 24 hours after I cleaned them - and already there is a fine layer of dust on them. It looks like I may have to do them again next week.
The culprit is the pollution hanging over us because of the cold layer in the upper atmosphere. My little PM2.5 meter is almost off the scale, as shown below. (photo taken 3/1/23 @ 9:51 am)
My problem is getting up onto the car port roof (approx. 4 meters above the ground). At 76 YO, falling through the cement roof tiles is going to mean a very expensive hospital bill, or possibly a cheaper trip to the local temple ????.
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10 hours ago, zappalot said:
oh, ok, actually I thought they are roughly all about the same size and about 22 kg max...
So have to rethink, the link I included does not provide any such specs...
so have to rethink...
thx so much...
Yep, they are big and heavy. FYI... I've attached below the spec.
SRP-(655-670)-BMC-HV_210_EN.pdf
Good luck with your proposed project.
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4 hours ago, Crossy said:
If the good weather continues, I'll have to turn off export earlier than usual.
I'm not quite in the same 'boat'. Since the meter was read 14 days ago my small scale system has been satisfying most of our daytime needs, resulting in us only needing to purchase 13 units.
I checked the panels yesterday and, as can be seen from the photo below, they are 'caked in dust' which must have a degrading effect on their efficiency, so I early this morning it was up on the car port roof with the hose and soft brush. They looked brand new when I finished. I'm not sure if there will be any significant improvement in output as its difficult to measure with so many variable.
That said, if the weather remains the same until the next meter reading in 13 days, we'll have an extremely small bill, possibly the lowest since the system has been in operation.
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@zappalot You are aware that these solar panels are big, very big! 2384 x 1303 x 35 mm and they weigh a mere 38.5 kg each.
Looking at your roof pictures, I would beg to suggest that at that weight you are going to need to seriously think how you will get the panels up that roof. Also looking at the angle of the roof you're going to need some very substantial fixings to hold them down with that weight. The last thing that you want is for them to lift off in the wind and slide down and hit someone/something, as that would be very expensive.
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@notrub As you are no doubt aware, what documents are required to renew your permission to stay depends upon a mystical combination of which immigration office you use, which immigration officer will process your application, what side of the bed they got out of that morning and what day of the week or month it is.
According to the Immigration Regulations there are specific documents that you must produce in order to facilitate your renewal. Then there are any number of other documents that the officer may decide are also ‘mandatory’.
From my experience of renewing my permission to stay (non-O based on retirement) for the past 10 years, I go to the immigration office (Nakhon Pathom) with 2 folders. One contains all the documents that are required under the relevant Regulations, the other contains documents which the officer might ask for.
Folder #1 – Must Have Documents
Passport
Completed TM7 form – Application for extension of temporary stay in kingdom.
Passport style photo of self (4 x 6 cm).
B&W photocopy of passport biographical page.
B&W photocopy of last permission to stay stamp.
For 800K funds in bank
Bank book - updated.
B&W Photocopy of bank book ownership data page and page(s) showing funds – as updated.
Letter from bank confirming ownership of account and funds dated same day as bank book update.
For monthly overseas transfer of funds
Bank book - updated.
Copy of bank book ownership page and pages showing funds deposited from overseas.
Bank statement for past 12 months showing transfer of funds monthly from overseas.
Letter from bank confirming ownership of account and funds.
1,900 THB renewal fee.
NOTE: Documents from folder #1 are the only ones handed over to the immigration officer. If the officer asks for anything else, then they are given it from folder #2 which is held in reserve.
Folder #2 – Backup Documents (just in case)
B&W photocopies of all previous permission to stay stamps.
B&W photocopy of TM30 – Notification of aliens staying at residence.
B&W Photocopy of current TM47 receipt – Notification of staying longer than 90 days.
B&W photocopy of TM6 – Departure card.
B&W photocopies of wife’s ID card and house registration book.
B&W photocopy of pink card and yellow house book.
B&W photocopy of marriage certificate.
B&W Photocopy of map showing location of house (Google).
B&W photocopies of bank credit advice notification (funds transferred from overseas).
B&W photocopy of UK bank statement showing funds origin and transfer.
B&W photocopy of pension funds deposits.
NOTE: All photocopies should be signed by you except your wife’s ID and house registration book which she should sign.
In my ten years renewing my permission to stay, Nakhon Pathom immigration office have stuck to the mandatory documents (folder #1). I only recall one occasion when the officer asked for my TM6 which was in fact stapled inside my passport – no photocopy was requested.
Hope this helps and good luck with your renewal.
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@stubuzz As I mentioned above, things may have changed since I last went to the MoFA at CW, but looking at the requirements for submitting your request for legalization one of them is that you need to complete an application form. These are available on a desk which is in front of you when you get to the top of the stairs on the 3rd floor. The problem being that there/was is only limited space available to complete the form and if there are several people there it can be a bit of a 'bun fight'. So I've attached a copy (PDF) below (which hopefully is still current) so you can print out and complete at your leisure before going there.
Also, please be aware that you need to have the original certified copy of your passport, and a 'certified' translation (English to Thai) of the certified copy of your passport, plus a copy of the translation. FYI... There is a photocopy facility available on the second floor -reasonable costs per page. (see Chapt. 25 of the instruction https://consular.mfa.go.th/th/publicservice/เอกสารที่ต้องเตรียมเพื่อขอรับบริการรับรองนิติกรณ์เอกสาร )
Important...... Be sure to take your passport with you as they will want to see that you have more than 10 working days left before your permission to stay/visa expires. Don't ask why.
Hope this helps.
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@stubuzz.... If you look at the MoFA web link that I attached to my previous post, you will see that 'Express' service is available, at an extra cost of course.
I know that things have changed since I last went there a few years back, namely the introduction of the appointment system, but when I used the express service it was only available for customers who submitted their documents between opening time (8:30 am) and 11:30 am. Collection would then be same day after 2:00 pm. Anything submitted after 11:30 am would be standard service with next day collection.
I would strongly suggest that you opt for an appointment as early as possible to ensure that you can use the express service.
FYI.... The Legalization Section is located on the 3rd floor of the MoFA Consulate building at CW. There is a photocopying shop on the 2nd floor with reasonable prices if needed. There is a Thai style cafe/restaurant and coffee shop on the 1st floor.
Good luck.
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Further to my recent post (2 above) concerning my visit to my local BKK bank branch to obtain a new passbook, and inquiring as to why they now seem to need a copy of my permission to stay status, today I had occasion to visit their foriegn currency transaction section at their head office (Silom Rd - BKK) in order to transfer GBP to THB.
In the past they have always required my passport and taken a copy of the biographical (photo) page which they ask me to sign. Today the staff member returned from the photocopier with a single A4 sheet containing both my passport biographical data page and the page containing my latest permission to stay based upon retirement stamp (the paper was in landscape format).
I asked the staff member why she had taken a copy of my permission to stay page as in the past it has only been the biographical data page. She reiterated, almost word-for-word what the manager of my local BKK bank had said, namely that it is now policy following a directive from the Bank of Thailand.
I then asked her, what would happen if the date of my permission to stay had expired. She replied that she would not be able to process my request to transfer funds from my foreign currency account to my savings account. She also stated that she would have to report the failed transaction to another department, but would not be drawn when I asked her which department that might be. This again was basically the same response as given by my local BKK bank branch.
So it seems that this is now the norm. Expired permission to stay date = no transaction.
It will be interesting to know what happens to those forum members who have indicated in the past that when they have an over-the-counter transaction with their bank they use their pink card or Thai driving. licence.
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FYI.... There are 2 Consular departments at the Klong Toey office.
One deals specifically with renewing Thai national's passports and no appointment is needed for this (walk in) service. I think that this is what @HampiK is refereing to as he mentions "renew Thai passport for my wife".
The other department deals with the legalization of documents which is what I believe @stubuzz needs. That is to say either confirming that the signature of a foreign consular official on a document (e.g. copy of a passport) is authentic, or that a translation of a document from English to Thai is accurate.
The localisation service at both Kong Toey and Chaeng Watthana used to available as a walk in service prior to 2020, but unfortunately Covid restrictions changed all that and its now an appointment only service to restrict numbers.
When I last used the localisation service at CW, a couple of years back, I sent my document and payment to them by post (EMS). They returned them duly authenticated by EMS a couple of days later. I'm not sure if the postal service is still available but I have found the web link (below) to the MOFA Legalization at CW.... Maybe give them a call.... Hope this helps.
https://consular.mfa.go.th/th/page/cate-6441-รับรองนิติกรณ์เอกสาร?menu=5d68c88b15e39c160c008184
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This morning I visited the BKK bank in my local mall in order to obtain a passbook. I have the account at this branch and been a regular customer for the past 10 years.
On being called to the counter I handed my old passbook and passport to the staff member and asked her if she would provide me with new passbook. The staff member took my passport away to the photocopier and then disappeared into a backroom. She returned after about 5 minutes with 3 photocopy pages which she asked me to sign. One was my old savings book data page, another was my passport data page and the third was the page from my passport containing my latest permission to stay stamp (Non-O based on retirement) with the date of its expiration circled in red.
I asked the staff member why she need a copy of my Immigration status, as it has never been required before, and why has the expiration date been circled. She looked at me as though I was asking the impossible and promptly called over the manager.
The branch manager, who in the past if not busy would normally come and say hello when I go to the branch explained that it is a result of a directive from head office in BKK. According to her (the manager), it is to do with new anti money laundering procedures, as directed by the BoT.
I asked her what would they do if my permission to stay had expired, would they contact Immigration? She advised that according to the recent directive, they (the bank) would not be able to process my request as I am well be classified as an illegal. She said that they do not contact Immigration but the details of the failed transaction have to be sent to head office. She said she was not aware if they (head office) subsequently notify immigration.
I then asked her if giving my data to a third party, such as Immigration, was not in breach of the new Personal Data Protection Regulations. She was obviously on the 'ball' when she replied that there is provision within the new Personal Data Protection Regulation which allows the bank to 'share' my personal data for the prevention of a crime e.g. being illegal in the country.
Nice smiles all round and a few minutes later my new passbook, old passbook and passport were handed over.
PS.... I signed the photocopy of my original savings book data page and my passport data page, but I didn't sign the page which had my permission to stay on it. No comment was made about the missing signature.
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If I was in your shoes, I'd go for the 16mm x 240cm rod. The deeper the better.
FYI.... A tip which I picked up from somewhere in the electrical forum quite some time ago when I was doing my research/design for my small scale system:-
1. Make sure that the ground where you intend to sink the rod is as wet as possible - I hosed the position two or three times a day for about a week before attempting to sink the rod as the ground was rock hard.
2. Instead of using a lump hammer to wack the rod into the ground and risk bending the rod or hitting my hand, I used my cordless electric drill. I put the top of the rod into the chuck and switched the drill into hammer mode (like using a masonry drill). The rod spins and hammers itself into the ground. Combined with the wet ground, as indicated above, this method worked a treat with minimal effort.
⚠️ Before sinking the rod, make sure that there are no utility pipes/cables buried where you're proposing to sink the rod.
Good luck.