Chomper Higgot

Are you getting your dates mixed up and if so are you losing track of time?

I’m not sure how you come to that conclusion. I have clearly stated that Hamas are guilty of the heinous terrorist attack of Oct 7. A point I have repeated twice in this thread and which is consistent with my comments since October 7 on Hamas’ culpability for that heinous terrorist attack. I’m really not sure what your comment regarding ‘some Europeans seeming to hold resentment towards Jews over the Holocaust’ is referring to. I can’t think of any European I know who that would apply to.

A very odd thing to say given the extracted quotes I have given.

Refer direct quotes above. “By that time [1pm], Hamas and Islamic Jihad had taken the overwhelming majority of the hostages, and most Israeli victims at places near the Gaza border, like Kfar Aza, Nir Oz, Beeri, and the Nova Music Festival, had already been murdered.”

Let me help you with your reading: “three [Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, and IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Herzi Halevi.] did not speak until nearly four hours into the war, by which point hundreds of Israeli hostages had already been taken, and hundreds of Israelis had been killed.” And: “Classified video footage of the IDF high command “pit,” which we viewed, showed that on October 7, not a single general was in the room. The midlevel officer in charge and his deputies were yelling at each other as reports of invasions flooded in. They had no overall defense plan.” And: “The Israeli military's top commanders did not really start to manage the nation’s defense until about 1:00 p.m, which was also around the time Netanyahu's first video to the public came out. By that time, Hamas and Islamic Jihad had taken the overwhelming majority of the hostages, and most Israeli victims at places near the Gaza border, like Kfar Aza, Nir Oz, Beeri, and the Nova Music Festival, had already been murdered.” There’s much more, refer: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-886242

Sadly I believe Jew haters are too often in all other respects normal human beings. As Hannah Arendt observed, ‘the banality of evil’.

Based on over thirty independent testimonies and Farage’s admission while failing to apologize.

Refer article I linked above.

Reporting on the security failures makes for some shocking reading; https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-886242

Not much it would seem. Which answers your other question: To reveal the truth of why thousands of invading terrorists were able to breach Israel’s border security on October 7 And why the security forces failed to respond immediately.

Farage is an unapologetic antisemite.

You really don’t like us discussing this rightwing self confessed racist and antisemite do you?!

Another deflection from discussing the rightwing self confessed racist and antisemite that is the subject of this thread.

Shall we stick to discourage POS in the OP or are you going to insist on deflecting?

Dear me, what a sack full of grievance.

The main benefit is the information revealed is public and therefore cannot be hidden or spun by any of the ‘interested’ parties. But then I thought you understood transparency

Who suggested anything was ‘stepped down’? I didn’t suggest such a thing so take it up with whoever did.

There you go again Nick, imagining what I think, want and believe. I have made absolutely no suggestion of a ‘false flag operation’ this too is a figment of your own imagination. As I repeated earlier in this thread, I have consistently stated the heinous terrorist attack of October 7 was by Hamas, and it is they, Hamas, that are responsible for that heinous terrorist attack. Hamas responsible = no not the false flag operation you keep referring to.

I don’t believe Israel’s militarized borders have ever been set up to protect from only missile attacks.

Of course you have swerved to the military response in the weeks, months and years after these terrorist sttacks. You already engaged the discussion of the security failures in October 7 when you responded to my posts on the matter. Perhaps you don’t like talking about the catastrophic failures of defense on October 7.

Yes I did. Do you understand transparency?

You have a problem with transparency all of a sudden?

911 was a completely unexpected attack of a kind that had never happened in US history. Israel, we are told, is under constant threat and has a highly sophisticated security system protecting its militarized borders. Anyone claiming 911 could have been predicted and averted is doing so with the benefit of hindsight. The attack of October 7 suggests significant systematic failures in an ‘always ready’ defense. There is no equivalence between failures to protect against these two terrorist attacks.

The truth. Hence the need for a full and open inquiry. I can’t answer for your string of loaded questions or what you think loaded questions are necessary, unless of course you let the cat out of the bag with your ‘Hint and Deny’.

The same cannot be said of 911. There is no comparison between the security around Israel and the security of U.S. airways at the time of 911. One has a heavily armed security perimeter, the other did not.