Chomper Higgot

That’s not what anyone is saying. What I and others are saying is the Brexiteers made statements during the run up to the referendum that loss of trade privileges with the EU (the world’s largest free trade market) would be compensated by new trade deals, the jewel of which would be an FTA with the US. Brexiteers are now denying this, despite their anger when, after the vote, Obama told the UK it was at the back of the queue for an FTA. The Brexiteer self delusion of a UK/US FTA being possible continued until a lettuce eventually told the truth.

I take it you read Polish, which is quite an achievement, well done.

There was no EU rule, regulation or law preventing the UK taking the vaccine decisions it took.

I’m not a Brexiteer, I don’t believe in unicorns and I’m not taken in by a donkey with an upturned Cornetto on its head.

And there you have it.

Still waiting for those tangible Brexit benefits? Rees-Mogg couldn’t find them, can anyone here do better?

No. But the EU is the world’s largest free trade area, it doesn’t need a free trade agreement with the US, it’s large enough to do without it. The UK on the other hand has withdrawn from the largest free trade agreement, replaced it with tariffs, taxes and bureaucracy and the UK economy is now suffering as a consequence. It was Brexiteers who were claiming a US trade deal would fill the gap left by the madness that is Brexit.

Until you look at the details: ” Most recently it signed a deal with New Zealandon 28 February 2022. New Zealand is a small trading partner, accounting for less than 0.2% of total UK trade” ” Before Brexit, the UK was automatically part of any trade deal the EU had negotiated with another country. At the time the UK left, the EU had about 40 trade deals covering more than 70 countries. The UK government says it has secured rollover deals with 69 of the original countries.” More Brexit smoke and mirrors.

Show me a country that destroys its most significant trading partnership in a bid to end illegal immigration (your claim that was a motivation) and then fails miserably to do so.

Of course, the ‘It’s always somebody else’s fault’ defense. No, it won’t wash. Nobody was forcing Brexiteers to make statements on nations queuing up to make trade deals with the UK post Brexit. A trade deal with the US was central to Brexiteer hopes for those sunlit uplands. Nothing at all to do with ‘Remainers’.

So are you going to claim Brexit stopped illegal immigration?

So why did Brexiteers make all those promises about easy trade deals as a benefit of Brexit? https://www.politico.eu/article/15-things-uk-vote-leave-promised-on-brexit-and-what-it-got/

So why did Brexiteers make all those promises about easy trade deals as a benefit of Brexit?

I think this has been tried before, it goes by the name of ‘The Year Zero Option’ or in Brexit parlance as ‘You can eat whatever you want so long as it’s turnips’.

It seems everyone knew except the Brexiteers who where claiming it as a Brexit benefit.

Don’t hold your breath.

The lettuce got the message, rest assured so has Sunak: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/northern-ireland-liz-truss-us-biden-b2162292.html

And yet here we are with an unfinished Brexit and public opinion moving inexorably against Brexit. https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/

Yep, Bankrolled: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-leave-eu-campaign-arron-banks-jeremy-hosking-five-uk-richest-businessmen-peter-hargreaves-robert-edmiston-crispin-odey-a7699046.html

Your ageist fixation with Biden is not the topic of conversation. Brexit has put the UK in a very weak position, the US will dictate the limits of the UK’s negotiations wrt to Northern Ireland and will not permit the UK’s Brexit madness as to to put the Good Friday Agreement at risk. Oh, and that hoped for post Brexit UK/US Free Trade Agreement - it ain’t happening anytime soon, not even penciled in. Even the lettuce managed to grasp that reality.

Nobody is forcing you to read them.

But it’s not over. Sunak is meeting with Biden who will school Sunak on what is and is not acceptable wrt Brexit and Ireland (still not settled). The trade agreement the YK has with the EU is an interim agreement and must be renegotiated again in 2026. The UK still hasn’t put in place the necessary imported goods inspections at British ports, leaving the UK open to smuggling, excise evasion and dangerous goods. The UK Government has not yet figured out what to do with Rees-Mogg’s EU Law and Regulation reform act, which if implemented will further damage the UK economy and international standing. The impacts of Brexit are becoming increasingly apparent as the cover provided by COVID and Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine recede. And…… The UK is a democracy, the Brexit referendum did not suspend the right of people in the UK to discuss the damage Brexit has done and is doing, nor does it suspend the right of people in the UK to campaign for the reversal of Brexit. Brexit supporters can silence all such arguments by providing evidence of tangible benefits, refuting with evidence the damage Brexit is done and of course pointing at the vast open Sunlit Uplands, which surely ought to be visible by now. Brexit isn’t done, not by a long way.

The very people who planned and bankrolled Brexit which then handed them more power. I Avery English coup, executed by the elite, for the elite and voted for by their victims.

Green driven technology creates jobs. Again.

I see the tax free lump sum option in private and company pension schemes as a sitting duck. It’s removal has been raised as a possibility since the days of John Major. Removal of the tax free allowance for non residents is, as discussed, a possibility. However, I expect the biggest issue will be cuts to public spending and services, AKA Austerity #2. The economy is facing an 18 month recession, it’s too good an opportunity to dismantle public services, he’ll not be able to restrain himself.