Chomper Higgot

I’ve told you many times. I don’t owe you a solution to anything. Go get angry with the people who told you they would fix this (it wasn’t me). I have given my opinion of where the resolution will be found a couple of posts north of here.

Sorry, I’m not an employee of UK Border Force or the Home Office. I have no idea of the ‘status’ of those arriving, and I don’t owe you a definition of their status either. Take your question up with the Government.

The UK ditched the Dublin Regulations with Brexit. It has zero application to anyone traveling through the EU to a non EU nation.

Now we are getting somewhere. “Managing illegal migration is a global challenge” Yes managing the mass migration of people is a global challenge it’s a complex issue that is not going to be resolved by simplistic solutions. It certainly is not going to be solved by the UK acting by itself. The UK is going to have to engage with its neighbors ( essentially the EU) and almost certainly will have to join multinational agreements and treaties to address this issue. It might be a good idea to step back from the antagonism towards the EU, and particularly France that the UK has engaged in since 2016. Abandoning the Dublin regulations was a monumental mistake, a return to cooperation is the only way this problem will be resolved.

You just said the quiet bit out loud.

Here, this’ll explain, it’s a report from September of this year so the totals are not up to date: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-62889043

“Taking back control of our borders was never anything to do with illegal entry“ Arguably the most illogical statement I’ve read on this forum for a long time. Putting aside the use of photos of non European migrants by the Leave Campaign, of a nation loses control of migrants crossing the border, it does have control of its borders. ‘Oh we’ve got control of the borders, except for the over 30,000 people who sneaked in so far this year’

They are still migrants and ‘getting our borders back’ is still a lie.

I’ve explained, I don’t owe you a solution. It’s not me that made you false promises.

I don’t owe anyone a ‘working solution’. I answered the OP’s question. Take your question for a solution to the people who promised you they’d fix this. Venting your ire on those who told you at the time you were being lied to is a very odd response. But I do understand, you were duped. It’s not a fault on my part that I wasn’t.

How does that compare with over 30,000 so far this year?

But it did work then. The near twenty fold increase in migrants has occurred since Brexit, the UK ‘getting its borders back’ and leaving the Dublin Regulations.

I find it odd that in the face of a complete failure of the Government that promised to ‘get our borders back’ to control those same borders, those ranting against the 20 fold increase in cross channel migrants turn their ire on the very people who warned that the purveyors of the Brexit Promise were lying. If you feel you are owed a solution to the lies you swallowed, go take it up with those who lied to you. For your convenience you’ll find them in the party of Government and/or busy telling even more lies over at ‘Reform UK. Don’t compound the mistake of doubling down on failed policies by being suckered with ‘fooled you once and will fool you again’.

I answered the OPs question with a detailed explanation of why I don’t support the continuation of failure.

Near 20 fold increase since leaving the Dublin Regulation.

No don’t agree. There has been a near 20 fold increase in cross channel migrants since 2019. The Government that promised to take back control of Britain’s borders has failed to do so. The Government has failed, Braverman has failed, Patel before her failed. It’s idiocy to keep doing something when it has so very clearly failed: 8F752AE0-EA76-453D-8364-E034275761E1.webp

For an economy to work it needs productivity, growth and market access. Interest is not creating wealth, it’s simply inflating the amount of money without adding value to the economy. It also slows investment, further reducing productivity and growth.

Good for you. Now do the math. How much was the interest rate when you took out the mortgage, how much was the percentage increase in the mortgage repayments, how many times your income was the mortgage, how much did the value of your property increase during the time you owned it, how much did your income increase in the 70s?

The economic factors that are missing and are at the heart of the UK’s economic woes are Productivity and Growth.

Clearly you are not one of the millions of people who’s lives are being increasingly impacted by the UK’s economic problems.

I don’t disagree that interest rates have been too low for two long and that there are many benefits to ‘reasonable interest rates’. But that’s cold comfort to those who now face massive increases to their mortgages and the many who will lose their homes.

That depends on the neighborhood.

Police in England haven’t been attending burglaries for some time now. It’s unusual to even see a cop other than on the motorway.

The UK economy is heading into recession, is under high inflation and suffers anemic growth. Sunak has cancelled most of Truss’ lunatic economic policies but there’s a £50Billion hole in public services. Interest rates are set to rise again, which will drive many more home owners into the mass of people struggling to afford to pay bills, feed themselves and keep a roof over their head. Sunak is openly discussing cuts to public spending (AKA Austerity 2) the brunt of which will be borne by those already struggling economic hardship. Meanwhile the self harm of Brexit continues to damage the economy, constrain businesses and growth and ‘sunny uplands’ are out of sight and out of mind. The US cavalry are not riding over the hill with a trade deal. The UK needs to stop looking for the unicorn, there are no unicorns, it was always donkey wearing a dunce’s hat, deal with the elephant in the room. On a positive note, at least the UK got it’s borders back.

Meanwhile, what millions of people are actually having to deal with: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/02/uk-food-prices-soar-by-fastest-rate-on-record-as-cost-of-living-crisis-bites