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What would happen if the US just packed it and left the entire region. Just said here you go, go Saddam H. batshite crazy and do what you want to whoever you want. Oh and by the way, no one......absolutely no one from the middle east will ever be allowed into the USA. Here you go the rest of the world, take care of it.

So how old is to old 50,54,60,65.....what's the magic number. A guy in his late 60's having a kid, wow...well it would surely give him a reason to remain young at heart. Having enough money for a good life is one of the daunting task's for the old guy with a young kid.

11 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And who created this whole situation? Do you think that might possibly be the reason why other nations don't want to help the US? You broke it, you bought it.

Those reasons will all disappear when reality sets in. Iran Hijacked a UK ship, end of story. 

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

No.

 

Shipping isn't threatened, one British ship was taken as revenge for the taking of an Iranian ship.

 

And no, it is not caused by Iran.

One too many, and shipping has been threatened. Who hijacked the ship if not Iran.

13 minutes ago, sanemax said:

One reason could be that the UK wanted an escalation and deliberately provoked Iran into seizing the tanker ?

Iran has claimed that the tanker didnt stay on route and put other vessels in danger 

You so want to believe the US and the UK are bad, Iran good. Destruction will rain down on them if they don't toe the line. Bombs will fall continuously. 

If the Iranians don't fall in step soon, this is going to turn out very bad for them.

3 hours ago, sanemax said:

I cannot see how Iran is pushing anything .

It legitimately shot down the USA drone and legitimately seized the UK ship 

Legitimately, Are you high? not that there's anything wrong with that..

4 hours ago, sanemax said:

It just seems such a coincidence that a UK registered oil tanker  , with "LONDON" written on the back of it , (not the usual Panama registered tanker) , sails in the gulf of Iran and takes action (switching off its tracker, not responding to Iranian radio contact and sails erratically ) that will cause Iran to take responsive measures .

  You could believe that the Uk deliberately wanted Iran to seize the tanker 

I'm sure all the above happened after it was seized.

1 hour ago, mikebike said:

Please define "everyone"... somehow I don't think you are actually referring to "everyone"... I, for one, wouldn't mind the global wake-up call a closure would foster. Also would be fun to see MSB and Saudi establishment go apoplectic!!

As in our allies (everyone) not necessarily you personally. 

I too did the Isaan dance. Bought land built a house, had a daughter. Wonderful place for a kid to grow up. She grew up hard playing with the boys. It was a novelty at first. But, but as time wore on I realized I couldn't live there after retiring....no way. My theory was you know....I worked hard all my life and this is it. Couldn't do it. I have a 20 acre place back in the states if I want solitude. Long story short moved south for better school for young'un and more to do for old dad. Live in a small fishing village a 1 min motorbike ride from the beach, maybe 1/2 min. Can walk to restaurants and farang bar, the beach. The school is 5 min away. 

I've not once regretted the move.

57 minutes ago, heybruce said:

What are you making your case with?

I stay in Thailand, hence Thai Visa Forum. As you know here Thais can go to a Gov Hospital for mostly free. Yet you would be hard pressed to find evidence of longer life span here vs. USA. Why? Because Gov health care isn't as good as uptown hospital care. Here if an old person has cancer they're sent home to die. In the US if a person with no Insurance is diagnosed with cancer are they turned away? So, you say well Thailand isn't a FWC.....right. 

But my belief is if health care is to be free for all and we are all forced into it with poor folks getting it for free and workers like me and maybe you will be forced to pay for everyone else.

Do what you want for the disenfranchised folks but don't force me into the same crappy healthcare as the person who gets it for free.

Diet has to do with life span as much as health care.

7 hours ago, nickstav said:

When I was back home and heading out on a long drive, say six hours or more, I would smoke a joint before heading out. Put on some good music and I really got into the driving. I didn't suffer any road rage, and didn't get pissed-off if stuck in traffic, drove safely. It actually made the time seem to go by quicker, and voila I was at my destination.

In callie before pot was made legal, med or recreational it was safe to do as you stated. Now, cops aren't only looking for alcohol but also the least sign of pot. 

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

If it had enough there, why would it be asking other countries to contribute theirs?

Because it's in everyone's best interest to keep shipping lanes open. 

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Another "I don't like Trump but..." One day I'm going to run across one of those I believe.

 

Politically Trump needs them. Right now the US only has the assistance of the UK. And that ain't much. The US navy really doesn't have the right kind of naval craft  there to do the job right. And the more help he gets the more legitimate his effort looks. Can't imagine most are going to cooperate. Not going to bail trump out of the mess he created. 

What type of Ships do we need that we don't have?

With my company we always have a security det standing by on the 50 cals plus an escort passing thru the Strait. Fock I hate that place.

The thing about the flip chicks is they really, really want to leave PI. Have fun, write when you can.

It's to everyone's interest to put Iran in their place. We aren't schoolchildren where liking someone is important, Are we? Push comes to shove I'm positive out allies will be there to lend a hand. Just like the Brits did not long ago when they boarded the tanker.

I'll be putting in my papers end of 2019 at age 62. I'll have a small Gov pension to boot. Own homes in the US as rentals, paid for 2 homes in Thailand where I live. Tired of being away from home 6 mos at a time working.

Turn the page...….

8 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Which means that the US numbers are in reality worse than they appear since much of the population gets little or no health care.

In CA no one is denied life saving care. The problem is the crazy prices for doctors and meds. Take care of that first. Many things can be done without shutting down public Insurance Co.

8 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Since you are speculating on "millions of illegals who will probably get it for free", why don't you factor it in?  Remember to show your work. 

You're the one throwing around numbers of the savings with universal healthcare. 

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

Not an opinion, the US has lower than average life expectancy among the OECD countries.   https://data.oecd.org/healthstat/life-expectancy-at-birth.htm

 

Why do you think that the US is incapable of implementing universal healthcare as efficiently as other countries?  Shouldn't the possibility of saving over $4000 a year per person be investigated?

 

Have you actually looked at overall healthcare costs and results and compared these things with other countries?  Or do you just assume that the mess we are currently in is the best that can be done?

Factor in the millions of illegals who will probably get it for free, then talk numbers.

I'm so glad to stop shipping, especially now with the way Iran is behaving. Good bye Dubai.

2 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

 Trump's attempts to deny responsibility for the chant, would be laughable for a child, for an adult they are really worrying. Listening to him talk is creepy, it is not just that he is an unspeakably vile human being, but his sanity is also in serious doubt.

 

It is hard not to suspect that he now actually believes his own 10,000s of lies. Briefly he may be aware that he is making stuff up, but pretty soon it appears that he thinks what he has said was true. This is a serious mental disorder, which is very sad for him, but potentially devastating for the rest of the world. I think Impeachment is irrelevant, for the safety of the world he needs to be Sectioned.*

*British word usage....." Having been committed compulsorily to a psychiatric hospital in accordance with a section of a mental health act: a sectioned patient has to gain permission before leaving."

 

Captain "Grab them by the fanny" Bonespurs, America's most famous sex creep and coward, is almost certainly certifiably insane. It is grim to even think about what this says about his supporters.

Wow, you're going to need massive amounts of therapy when Trump wins 2020.