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1 hour ago, Becker said:

She was going to Afghanistan where she among other things would talk to American troops. You know, the sort of thing the man-child is reluctant to do (probably because of his aching bone spurs).

She was also scheduled to visit Brussels where she probably planned on reassuring the Europeans that there still are grown-ups with quite a lot of power in Washington despite having a probable traitor infesting the WH who just can't help showing how much more comfortable he is in the presence of dictators than democratically elected leaders.

Did you get all that inside info from Bussfeed.

2 hours ago, Silurian said:

 

Speaker Pelosi already had the House pass 6 separate spending bills that would have reopened government. But between the spineless McConnell and the mercurial Reality TV POTUS, those two are not moving forward on ending the shutdown. The ball is now in the Senate's court to actually do their job and pass a spending bill again that just a month ago the Senate Republicans had already approved.

 

Speaker Pelosi is doing her job unlike the Senate Majority Leader who is just kowtowing to the political whims of the wall loving base and their clueless leader.

 

Negotiations are required which it seems granny Nancy is unwilling to participate. 

The speaker of the house wanted to leave the country during this long government shutdown. Why would she want to do that?

11 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Trump’s wall is targeting that sector? 

 

What answer was I seeking? And why do you think so?

Typically charts are posted by anti-border security folks. I read the chart correctly and your intent wrong.

3 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Looks like the Rio Grand sector could use some more border barrier. I know that's not the answer you seek, but that the reality.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's an unfounded inflammatory accusation that is obviously false. Obviously wishing for something like that would be pure evil but it doesn't even make any Machiavellian sense, dude! Any kind of crisis caused by a large attack like that would strengthen any president and anti-"trump" people definitely do NOT want him strengthened. 

Good try but no prize. The bad jokes about a potential terrorist attack is sick. 

The T 100 has a better look, besides the Twin being a bit cheaper, the T100 has a better look....better finishes. 

2 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-immigration-deal-trump-shouldve-taken-didnt

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I won't quote FOX News if you don't quote wacky Rachel.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/trump-daca-deal-is-a-dream-come-true-for-democrats-commentary.html

1 hour ago, alanrchase said:

Trump was previously offered 25 billion for the wall in return for DACA agreements, he turned it down. He keeps making agreements then backtracks on them when Fox, Rush and Anne have a go at him. Pointless for the Dems to offer anything unless Trump invites Fox, Rush and Anne to the negotiations.

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You've got it back asswards, That was Trump's offer.

13 minutes ago, farcanell said:

Thas right..... trumps demand.... right there is the problem, compounded by your senate refusing to act on anything less than trumps demand.... and we know this because he has already nixed the counter offers that have been proposed.... maybe you missed that.

You mean the nothing for a wall offer.

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

And why couldn't the exact same argument be made on Pelosi and Schumer's behalf? Except of course they were willing to stay longer than the few minutes that Trump was able to endure.

Because Trump's demand is 5+ mill, now it's the dems turn to counter offer. Are the dems offering anything except no?

20 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Wasn't it Trump who walked out of the last meeting?

And what did Nancy and chuck bring to the table. We weren't there but their has to be some concessions on both sides. Have you heard any negotiating options brought to the table by dems. Why should Trump stay when it was a waste of his time.

Neither side wants to give an inch for fear of looking weak to their backers. Good on Trump for not giving in, sooner rather than later the dems will realize negotiating requires 2 parties. 

I don't live on Samui, but the airfare is pretty high. The area around Rayong is an area to be checked out. Lots of different beach areas.

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Anyone dissagree a wall would help at criticle points? It is just the idea of a Chineese wall from east to west! 

Post a recent quote from Trump stating he wants a solid wall coast to coast. I know you can't because this is a lefty political ploy to give their minions ammunition. At critical locations more barrier is needed, and this I think most will agree to. 

Imminent domain has been used for many strategic improvements in the US. Without Imminent domain highways and other public utilities wouldn't exist. 

51 minutes ago, roo860 said:

I used to stay in a small guest house in Hua Hin, long time ago, only had 4 rooms, the other 3 rooms were rented by about 10 bar girls. There was never a dull moment, great company, house rules were no customers brought back to rooms.

Happy days!!!

 

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If I was ever to find myself unattached again...….It would only be high end soapies for me....No drama, no stalkers.

6 hours ago, JMSIII said:

I find it to be amazing that so many people here are so wrong, not even close to understanding what a wall would prevent.  I have seen guys explain sanctuary cites accurately, only to have individuals question and doubt them, or even tell them they are wrong.  Most people who have no idea of the truth, are only getting their information from the corrupt, treasonous, fake news of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc...   They are not reporting the reality and truth of what is going on at the southern border.  They are controlled by the deep state, cabal, whatever you want to call them.  They are not honest, independent news agencies!

 

I have to politely ask people here who only want to bash Trump, and bash any notion of a wall.  Have you any personal experience with illegals?  Have you ever had to deal with the criminal behavior of the illegals?  Have you ever dealt with any victims of the illegals?

 

I'm willing to bet your answer will be, no you have not.  With that being said, it's sad because there are very good, honest people just trying to make a buck to send back home for their families in Mexico.

 

When I was growing up in the 60's and 70's in California, we had illegal Mexicans all over working seasonal jobs.  It was not a big deal.  Only became a big deal in later years, when hospitals and clinics were being forced into bankruptcy, and then eventually closing their doors for good.  Because of all of the unpaid medical bills from the illegals.  You would go into almost any emergency room, on any given day and time, they would be filled with non English speaking illegals.  Being treated for a cold, to broken bones, births, gun shot wounds, etc.  You name it, and they were getting top medical care free.  This is what started our medical insurance, and our medical costs to become so expensive.  Somebody had to pay, and that was Americans with medical insurance and jobs.

 

There is a Federal law that states if you walk into a hospital, you must be treated.  Illegal Mexicans ran up hundreds of millions of dollars in bills, without paying.

Good, accurate opinion. TDS clouds people's logical thinking on this forum as well as Nancy and chuck.

Time for the "Put Trump in jail" deranged to either put up or shut up. If you got the goods on Trump....fine, but if you don't then stop the madness and move on. 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

 

 

 

 

TDS actually refers to people that continue to support "trump" no matter how bad he is. In the fullness of time those people will either go in the closet or have lots of 'splainin to do.

 

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/zacharypetrizzo/2019/01/07/confirmed-trump-impeachment-syndrome-is-definitely-real-n2538619   ????

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

How many people are on here advocating illegal border crossings?

Please read and understand before sprouting your uninformed opinion about others, especially an opinion that you would have known to be incorrect after reading this and other threads on the same subject.

So if you're not in favor of illegal border crossings, what's the problem. Hell, even Obama was in favor of border security and got funding. But because Trump is asking, we get this...……...

2 minutes ago, keemapoot said:

Yup, and if Mueller's report exonerates your guy, I will be the first to admit we were all wrong about Trump's nefarious intentions. 

 

But, I will never change my mind that he is a simply incompetent.

Don't really care what happens with Trump, but let's make a decision and get on with it. 

7 minutes ago, keemapoot said:

I have a strong suspicion that state of the union address will be cancelled. I think Mueller's report will be strategically released before Trump's new AG can be confirmed so that Trump cannot prevent the results from being known to Congress and to the public.

 

So, give this two weeks, and Trump will have much more to worry about than a government shut down.

Well, let's make it so. All I hear are wolf tickets. 

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The state of the union address is coming up on January 29.

Just imagine how divisive that will be if the government is still shut by then.

Perhaps the democrats will turn their backs as the "dear leader" criminally corrupt Russian compromised narcissist spouts his hateful propaganda.

We're in historically dark times and the "trump" - McConnell shutdown is only the tip of the iceberg.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/11/mitch-mcconnell-could-end-shutdown-hes-sitting-this-one-out/

Nancy and Chuck certainly have their hand in the cookie jar.