Mike Teavee

Technically Not sure why people would think there would be a list of "Non-Assessable Income" as all Income is Tax Assessable & the fact that there is no tax due on it can only be ascertained after assessing it for tax. E.g. If income from an Inheritance is not taxable Thailand, then that's fine the income is assessed as being from an Inheritance & not taxed... It's still Tax assessable. Another example, UK Government Pensions, US SS etc... are not taxable in Thailand, again the income would be assessed as being a Government Pension/SS & would not taxed... It's still Tax Assessable. Practically I am not saying the income has to be or will be assessed, things like advisory notices from the RD & DTAs allow us to short circuit the process & not declare certain incomes, but if the RD came to audit you, any Inheritance or Government Pensions/SS will be assessed & if found to be such, deemed not taxable.

And when the Crow's drank at home there was noticeably less murders occurring

Laguna Beach Resort 3 (Maldives) stayed there for 5 nights via AirBnB, really nice place (awesome pool) but had to use Bolt to get anywhere as I don't have my own transport. On the AirBnB listing it mentioned a shuttle bus twice per day to the big Lotus at South Jomtien & Jomtien beach but the security guard looked at us like we were talking gibberish when we asked about it & I didn't see a single bus during our stay there. Oh & there were lots of Soi Dogs hanging around the streets outside, very placid during the day but I wouldn't want to be walking/riding a motorbike around there at night. Edit: Apologies I thought this was a new thread & it seems I posted exactly the same as the above 18 months ago!!! - At least I was consistent :)

A simple comparison would be when you think of Stephen Hawking, do you think "Author" or Genius who was so far ahead of everybody else with his thoughts on Time & Space. I am comparing Nietzsche with Hawkins because, in his field, Nietzsche was so far ahead of everybody else. Camus is a much easier read though (says he as he scoots to find the remote control so he can watch some Sherlock Holmes on New Years Day - Life is Good) Happy New Year :)

Sorry one of my "quirks" is I refuse to use honorifics so he's "Arthur" to me :) Brilliant Author & mind

You seem to view Nietzsche as an Author & I'd never put that label on him even though he's written books. My favourite author has to be Conan Doyle, I grew up on Sherlock Holmes stories & love them to this day :)

Love this post... Thank you for reminding us that "This is Thailand" & so everything we think we know, we don't.

Read my previous post, somebody posted on here that they had been asked for a Tax certificate, I can't remember when or in what thread nor do I care as I use the 800K in the bank method... If you use the 65K pm method it's your job to find out whether it's true or not not mine.

Interesting you say that as there are a few TV series, believe or not "Friends" being one, I've sat through & bought the 10 series boxset 3 times with various GFs & found it a completely different viewing experience on each watching. Am really looking forward to watching Mad Men now :)

Look it was posted on here that a BM was asked to show a tax certificate for his extension whilst doing one based on 65K pm income. Why, Who, When, I couldn't give a toss as I use the 800K in the bank, but it was posted on here so I mentioned it.

I'm sorry Jerry, this really did make me laugh :) & "I have no Idea" probably sums up most of the posts on this thread! Happy New Year :)

It was reported in this thread (or one of the other ones) that a BM was asked to show a Tax certificate when doing their extension, I use 800K in the bank so didn't really take note of where it was posted.. IMHO, nobody has done any "scaremongering", they've just shared their thoughts & am sure if it came across any other way then that's not what was intended - As per my post above there are guys who should have been paying tax all along & they will probably get away with not paying tax in the future as I'm sure RD has no interest in an Expat bringing in < 800K pa. The game changer could be if immigration do start asking for a certificate showing you've paid tax on that money, guys bringing in private pensions from the UK would be able to show their P60 which details pension earned & tax paid, I have no idea what you guys from the US would use..

Nietzsche said it best... "God is Dead"... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_dead Now can we close this thread :) P.S. I'm just joking, I find some of the posts (in particular @Sunmaster) very thought provoking & cause me to take a good look at my inner self... But I do think Nietzsche was right about the Christian/Muslim/Judaist etc... view of "God".

I don't see an incongruence between 1 & 2 so not sure why "The Scaremongers" are uncoordinated but have said since they introduced the 65K income method of getting an extension that people are opening themselves up to (potentially) being liable for Tax. Simple example, I use the 65K pm income method remitting income as it accrues & am from a country that doesn't have a DTA with Thailand... I have always been liable for tax on that income in Thailand, few (I'd bet next to no) Expats pay it. This is why some immigrations offices are now asking for a tax certificate (or equivalent) when doing extensions based on the 65K pm method. And that's not "Scaremongering" it's a simple fact...

But If I haven't remitted anything (from overseas) to myself, why would they bother looking into my account?

I used to live in Bangkok & did my extensions at CW, the last one I would have probably ended up having to make 3 trips... (From On Nut it's approx. 1.5 hours & 600B in a Taxi each way) My Bank Book had amalgamated entries as I didn't keep it up to date often enough, Immigration would have rejected this & I'd have to come back another day with a Bank Statement. At that time, Immigration was only processing Extensions that were due in the next 3 days, I wanted mine 44 days before as I was travelling, would have had to cancel my holiday plans, at least 25K down the toilet. Instead my agent spotted the problem with my Bank Book & took me to the local Bangkok Bank to explain to them what I needed (100B for a 3 month statement covering the period of amalgamated Entries) & drove me to CW to process my extension 44 days before it was due. I paid them 7,900B (- 1,900 Immigration so 6,000B) worth every Satang in my book. I really do laugh when people say it only takes a couple of hours at CW to do their extension, it used to take me 1.5-2x that in travel time alone, but using an Agent I was normally in & out in 20-30 mins.

Some of us do the Pattaya-Bangkok return trip couple of times a month so saving 1,000B(each way) per trip soon adds up. Add to that the GF doesn't like to be in a Taxi on her own (Kid you not when I was in the UK & she flew back from visiting family in Satun she chose to take the BTS/MRT to Ekkamai and then the bus to Pattaya rather than get into a Taxi on her own). Things are a lot easier now Bell Bus (great service) is back up & running + we have the option of Lady Drivers from Nams, but given the choice between getting into a normal taxi or taking public transport she'd pick the latter every time.... Nothing to do with how much costs.

I've still not got around to watching Mad Men but have queued it up for my next binge viewing... Currently finishing off " A Murder at the end of the World" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15227418/ Very good even though I normally avoid things that Clive Owen is in.

I did a Wise transfer yesterday (mate has had his bank account closed in the UK so wanted me to pass the money he had in it on to him) & it struck me that as the money shows up as an Intra-Bank transfer (not FTT / Foreign Transfer) have I really remitted it to Thailand? I gave the money to Wise in the UK and they paid me the money from their account in Thailand so technically no money has been remitted into Thailand.

Far be it for me to suggest what a Mod of the Visa Forum does or does not take interest in but I would suggest a lot of guys in here are from Chiang Mai & even more from Pattaya so might be worth keeping an eye on what's happening in those IO offices. If commenting on a Mod's post earns me a "Holiday", then (unlike Arnie), I won't be back.

Hopefully as you have very recent experience of doing an Extension at CW where an (updated) TM30 was not required, the OP will be ok. I can’t really comment from recent experience as I moved condo at the time my last extension was due so had to do a TM30 (as I’d changed address), Extension/Multi Re-entry permit & 90 day report (it was due) at the same time.... But I did remember reading that article so made a mental note to do a TM30 on my next return from UK (Probably need to do one anyway as I'll be getting a new passport when I'm there) and thought it worth mentioning. I’ve posted many times that I use an agent (for convenience) so looking back through my paperwork they filed my TM30 then did my Extension/Multi Re-Entry permit on the same day, next day they did my 90 day report. For anybody keeping score it was 8K for the Extension, 4K for the multi re-entry permit & 500B for the TM30 (90 day was free).

From Ground News: https://ground.news/article/chonburi-immigration-bureau-tightens-address-reporting A recent change in procedure at Pattaya-Jomtien immigration (and Sri Racha) means that all foreigners requiring a service must have a TM30 form receipt in their passport. This now applies to long-term expats as well as short-term tourists. A TM30 receipt issued before the last entry to Thailand will be regarded as out-of-date.

It wasn't like that at Jomtien until this year so I couldn't say whether CW does the same or if they accept an older TM30 as long as you're still at the same address. Seems the change was made approx. 2 months ago... Now occasionally you fly back to your home country be it the United States or Portugal or the UK, or wherever, and then come back to Thailand. Well, the past three years you haven't had a problem with the TM30 because you just have your original TM30 you filled out in the beginning and that is all you have had to deal with, and they haven't asked for further TM30 documentation in connection with your extension for example. They may ask for the TM30, the one you originally did but what has changed here is you now have to file a new TM30 after your latest arrival. So moving forward, it looks like when you leave the country, maybe it's a day or two whatever, you are going to have to file another TM30 before any subsequent extension. So that is what we are looking at moving forward. https://legal.co.th/resources/visa-immigration-law/thailand-immigration-law/tm30-making-thai-visa-extension-processing-more-complex/ Edit: If you read the comments under the Video it seems Chiang Mai also want a new TM30 This is what happened to me at Chiang Mai Immigration yesterday. I was asked if I had a receipt in my passport, to which I answered yes, but I hadn't reported my last two entries last May and August. They asked me if I'd changed my address and I answered, no. They said that I needed to update and gave me a ticket to queue. When it was my turn, I was asked again if I had changed address and then some details were entered in the computer. Then a new receipt was made out and handed to me. That was that - free to go. My last entry was on 22nd August and the receipt is dated 18th October. Edit2: The "Confused" amongst us might want to google the Pattaya Mail article "Chonburi immigration bureau tightens address reporting"

Have you been outside of Thailand since you got that TM30 only some offices (E.g. Jomtien) seem to want a new TM30 if your last one was prior to your most recent entry into Thailand. It used to be that if you were returning to your previous address you did not need to get a new TM30 but has apparently changed this year & they now want the TM30 to be dated after your most recent entry into Thailand when doing your extension. If you've not been outside of Thailand since you got the TM30 then your old one should be fine.

It’s 100B for an agent to do a 90 day report which is cheaper than a Bolt taxi to/from Immigration (please don’t suggest I take 2 Baht buses to get there). I normally do mine online but there have been periods where it wasn’t working so it’s good to have a backup.