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  1. You may want to wait a couple of years - recent medical science are working on a cure for that stuff. It may be as simple as wearing a patch similar to the nicotine patches for people trying to stop smoking, or an injection of hormones every now and then. There has been successful animal tests at Oregon State University where they were able to cure homosexual sheep, so other gender identity issues are just around the corner.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2524408,00.html

    Of course, the pro-gay-lobby is all up on the barricades over this but as long as it is a voluntary treatment I don't see any difference between curing it and the sex change operations that are already being carried out. Let the sufferers of these disorders choose whether they want to cure it or if they want to live it out and let it control their lives.

    ( And before you start flaming me, consider that gender identity issues are classified as disorders: http://psyweb.com/ICD/ICD10/f60f69.jsp )

    Interesting, but maybe that should be in the gay forum - would make an interesting topic.

    Er, no thanks. We've gotten a bit tired of people trying to 'cure' us over the years.

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  2. By the way Grover, Warder's is fantastic but a ###### tough one for a beginner! I would have certainly struggled very hard with it had I not had significant knowledge of the language beforehand.

    Agreed. But once you make it through the very intimidating (unnecessarily so IMO) first lesson, the rest is easier. I had to read the 1st lesson over and over and over again. Pull out your best unabridged dictionary for this book, too.

  3. :o Grover, That's just plain hurtfull!

    & I thought that you buddhist folk were supposed to be kind.

    Well, I was going to post that quote about the swine and the pearls, but I figured this is a Buddhist thread, not a Jesus thread :D

  4. I enjoyed reading the Nation during & leading up to the coup, :o especially the Opinions/analysis section. The BKK Post seemed muted and dull in comparison.

    I remember when the Nation first became boldly critical/honest of the Thaksin gov. the journalists did not pen their name with their articles for fear of attack. But after some time they started to include their names. Quite courageous considering the climate of fear created by 'power' and the LOS.

  5. Definition of Outdoor Barbecuing "It's the only type of cooking a'real' man will do". When a man volunteers to do such cooking, the following chain of events is put into motion.

    1. The woman goes to the store.

    2. The woman fixes the salad, vegetables, and dessert.

    3. The woman prepares the meat for cooking, places it on a tray along with the necessary cooking utensils, and takes it to the man, who is lounging beside the grill, drinking a beer.

    4. The man places the meat on the grill.

    5. The woman goes inside to set the table and check the vegetables.

    6. The woman comes out to tell the man that the meat is burning.

    7. The man takes the meat off the grill and hands it to the woman.

    8. The woman prepares the plates and brings them to the table.

    9. After eating, the woman clears the table and does the dishes.

    10. The man asks the woman how she enjoyed "her night off." And, upon seeing her annoyed reaction, concludes that there's just no pleasing some women.

    I like jokes like this that expose the truth :o

  6. Secondly.

    As I am at a very early stage of learning, I use online sources only, many of them derived from this forum.

    Are there good introductory sources of online language learning for Pali that have been helpful to members here? If not available online, are there books that have been helpful so I could order those?

    Thirdly.

    My learning progress and ultimate success will heavily depend on not doing it alone, and involving my current or future partners here in Thailand.

    Are there sources that not only are English-Pali, but Thai-Pali in parallel (my Thai is pretty good in speaking and writing, so I am not limited here)?

    2. Introduction to Pali by Warder is a good book for learning Pali. There is a copy in the Chula main library and you can get it photocopied. There is another Pali book in Thammasat main library, forgot the name of the book. It contains a word by word translation of short, famous sutta passages with a good grammar reference at the back. Good to start off with if the Warder book is too heavy.

  7. If anybody's interested in exploring this issue in a slightly analytical/academic way, just buy and read an excellent book called

    "The God Delusion", by Richard Dawkins, Professor for the Public Understanding of Science (some title!) at Oxford University, UK.

    The book was published a few months ago in 2006 and is available through Amazon and all usual channels (probably at Asia books in TH). It will become one of the classics in this field. I read it over Christmas - couldn't put it down.

    Here is a part review from Amazon... for people who are interested...

    The author will be getting a cold reception at the pearly gates! :o

    His basic argument is that the collective irrational belief in "The God Hypothesis" is not only wrong ("intellectual high treason"), but pernicious in its resulting intolerance, oppression, bigotry, arrogance, child abuse, homophobia, abortion-clinic bombings, cruelties to women, war, suicide bombers, and educational systems that teach ignorance when it comes to math and science. Sure to provoke his adversaries, Dawkins not only portrays the "psychotic" God of the Old Testament as "arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully" (p. 31), but also challenges, quite convincingly, every major argument for God's existence...

    This guy is going to hel_l.

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