stevenl

1 hour ago, sanook 1 said:

Might be correct sir,but since sor kor 1 is the last step before becoming chanote(so i been told) i guess its possible..and if can convert in to chanote id be interesting in a plot land.

Many examples where a chanote was issued on sor kor 1, only to be later retracted. You can pay the official, just be prepared for a return.

I just wish people would understand what they're talking about. Looking at the previous posts in this thread my hopes are shattered.

6 hours ago, Trip Hop said:

 

Not another one.  GCE's not GCSE's in my day.  Got 2 degrees in engineering as well as a successful business that I have been running for the last 25 years.  Provides a nice lifestyle and puts me in the top 5th percentile of earners in my country too.  So much for your so called fantasy eh? 

Now you just need some manners and comprehensive reading ability and you're there.

17 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

 

Not matter how much it hurts inside, give it up man! 

Yes, I'm giving up, there really is no point in a discussion with someone who doesn't stand by his own words 

19 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

 

Give over man, are you suggesting that some know-it-all on AseanNow knows more than a Bangkok lawyer with 40 years experience?  Go and find something better to do with your life than trying to bait and troll people.

So despite your own link stating "If the foreigner is only sitting in the restaurant but not serving customers, not training or managing staff, not cooking and not buying supplies, then he does NOT need a work permit for this. But if he is involved in any of these activities, officially he does need a work permit."

You still stick to your claim. "Totally correct in that if you are married, there is a not very well known law that states you are allowed to help in a small family run business without a work permit in order to provide for your family."

Do you realise your own source of proof contradicts your claim?

4 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

 

Not really except that I thought to post the whole text would be too much?  You clearly doubted my claim and even went to the extent of trying to belittle me by accusing me of a posting an unsourced claim.  I have in return clearly proved to you the contrary, period.  Whilst you quote the above text to try and save face, it is taken partially out of context in that my original quote of. "However, there is another section of Thai law that applies to this situation which is that when this is a small family business he is allowed to take care of his family. So in practice, normally no work permit is enforced", comes after what you have quoted above and therefore somewhat implies overarching principles?

 

I have already stated in my original post that even my lawyer brother-in-law has said that me carrying out a full time task would cause issues but occasional small help would not, so why are you nit-picking? 

See full quote.

Work permit required, no matter how hard you wiggle.

Is there a reason you omitted this from your quote?

"If the foreigner is only sitting in the restaurant but not serving customers, not training or managing staff, not cooking and not buying supplies, then he does NOT need a work permit for this. But if he is involved in any of these activities, officially he does need a work permit."

4 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

 

Apologies regarding my earlier post, I was searching regarding digital nomads needing a work visa when I came across it and it's actually on the Thai Embassy website where it reads:

 

However, there is another section of Thai law that applies to this situation which is that when this is a small family business he is allowed to take care of his family. So in practice, normally no work permit is enforced.

 

It can be found here under the section Other Related Cases.

 

https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/thailand-digital-nomad-visa-and-work-permit

Thanks.

"Normally no work permit is enforced. "

So substantially different from your earlier claim. I do agree that in the sticks it is less likely to lead to problems than in tourist hotspots, but that is the same for all law violations, including riding without a helmet or DL.

1 hour ago, Trip Hop said:

 

The brother-in-law told me about it but I also came across it not so long back when researching it online.  I haven't got time to look for it myself right now but if you have, it can be found on the website of either Siam Legal or a similar website.  If I get time later to find it myself, I will post it.  

So you make an unsourced claim that working without a work permit is permitted depending on circumstances.

45 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

 

Totally correct in that if you are married, there is a not very well known law that states you are allowed to help in a small family run business without a work permit in order to provide for your family.  The issue is how the local BIB or immigration interpret this and whether someone if charged, would have access to a honourable lawyer to fight the case on its merits and not just see it as a meal ticket with no care for the outcome?  My lawyer brother-in-law once told me that me helping to clear up after hours or occasionally carrying a bag of rice or similar for my other half in her roadside cafe/restaurant in the suburbs will not be a problem although waiting tables full time would.  I'll be honest though in stating that I wouldn't want to test it in your average bar/restaurant in the centre of a tourist hotspot.  

Looking forward to a link for your claim.

2 hours ago, Dolf said:

More scaremongering.

Yes, you find it difficult to distinguish between facts and opinion. Your opinion is not a fact, these stats are facts.

3 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

So you claim work till you die or retire and do nothing.. Everything you name sounds nice but it is not...Try to play bridge..or even try to get or bring friends or family to the airport. last week you read what will happen. Even working in the garden or cleaning is not allowed as it is a protected job and the views are being disturbed by boing boing boing music from miles away... Siting on the beach or in  coffeeshop after 14.00 you can't buy a beer or something till 17.00. No nothing is allowed in fact so tell me why should people come to THailand to retire

What a load of nonsense.

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Perhaps you are correct...    When I was there for SandBox (two weeks riding around), I was not stopped, but there were no check-points out. When I was in Patong 6 months ago (I wasn't riding, but I didn't notice any police stops at all).

 

And you are also correct, I do get a lot of my info on this from social media, and sites such as this, which perhaps also creates bias on my part.

 

So, maybe this thread is just feeding my confirmation bias, but I seem to see more reports of foreigners getting stopped and fined at checkpoints in area's such as Patong, than I do in Bangkok for example.... 

 

Perhaps thats because there are more tourist riding illegally in Patong whereas in Bkk most foreigners are long termers and get a license and the police see this pattern already. 

 

 

From personal experience of Phuket - there is nearly always a couple of Police Stops pulling over tourists in Patong.

 

Thus: Stevenl - where are you riding your bike around Phuket ?

Laguna / Bang Tao and north from there - BiB seem not interested... 

Rawai / Phuket town etc - BiB seem not interested...

 

Kata / Karen / Patong / Kamala - this is where I've noticed more police checkpoints over the years (of visiting Phuket a lot)... I always suspected these area's have more check points because there is more money to be made from tourists.

Kata-rawai daily. Pass a checkpoint many times, hardly ever get stopped.

Forestry officials will be gone again soon, or are probably gone already. That means it is up to the local government, I think this is Karon municipality, to enforce . I can't say how effective I think that will be due to Thai laws.

8 minutes ago, zhounan said:

A question: Thais consider Russians farang?

If they're white skinned, yes 

9 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

In reality, they saw a foreigner coming and thus a potential victim to extort or bully into handing over money.

 

Y'know, the way it usually works here.

Nonsense, they could stop all taxis then.

7 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

All foreigners are being caught up in this. Not just whitey. 

Yes, but the reply was made to a post talking about farang.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Arrested for one pill for personal use. Such inane stupidity. The RTP will do absolutely anything in their power to avoid fighting crime. And nearly anything to earn cash. 99% likely they asked him for some cash, which he did not have, or he was not astute enough to offer them their "franchises fee". 

 

The deplorable RTP. Lock them up. 

"99% likely they asked him for some cash, "

Extremely unlikely ATM. They need to show arrests 

16 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Did you get checked? 

Yes, and allowed to stay.

Arrested again on UK charges 

7 hours ago, Baz Erckens said:

These few are the ones that do not want or can to pay the followup money and are therefore exposed. You guess how many people have been caught lately and just bribe their way out instantly, because as you said, if they really cared they could get hundreds of them.

Pretty much any canabis dispensary has a russian casually sitting there, waiting to take care of russian customers.

No, not at the moment.