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12 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:
Those disgraceful politicians you refer to, and I remember this case well, had first-hand knowledge of what this misfit did.
They stated at the time, if the British public had access to the information that they had, nobody would be giving her an ounce of sympathy.
This information was held by the judges at her hearing, hence many things were redacted, and a closed judgement issued for national security reasons.
This included participating and witnessing decapitation of aid workers, and she said at the time when ISIS was flying high that she was totally unfazed by it.
Furthermore, at the time, it was known that she was in a high position in the equivalent of the Women's morality ' police force ' set up to ensure all were following ISIS twisted version of Shariah law, again something she participated in willingly.
So all you bleeding hearts on AN can do one!
They should put themselves in the position of the families, and reserve their outpourings of sympathy for the of murder of innocent civilian aid workers, not a disgusting creature like this.
What she did supporting ISIS, she did knowingly and willingly, and this continued well into adulthood. She only played the victim, claiming she was trafficked when the tide of the war turned.
She wasn't trafficked, she overcame many obstacles to get there and join them, well she can bloody stay there.
Her own parents had begged her not to go and join them, which she and her two friends took no notice of.
Likewise, she had ample opportunity to apply for her Bangladeshi citizenship before she turned 21, which she chose to ignore and do nothing.
https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/comment/59540/why-shamima-begum-cant-be-allowed-to-return
https://news.sky.com/video/is-bride-a-lot-of-people-should-have-sympathy-for-me-11640208
https://www.arabnews.pk/node/1708041/world
Those disgraceful politicians you refer to, and I remember this case well, had first-hand knowledge of what this misfit did.
They stated at the time, if the British public had access to the information that they had, nobody would be giving her an ounce of sympathy.
This information was held by the judges at her hearing, hence many things were redacted, and a closed judgement issued for national security reasons.
This included participating and witnessing decapitation of aid workers, and she said at the time when ISIS was flying high that she was totally unfazed by it.
Furthermore, at the time, it was known that she was in a high position in the equivalent of the Women's morality ' police force ' set up to ensure all were following ISIS twisted version of Shariah law, again something she participated in willingly.
So all you bleeding hearts on AN can do one!
They should put themselves in the position of the families, and reserve their outpourings of sympathy for the of murder of innocent civilian aid workers, not a disgusting creature like this.
What she did supporting ISIS, she did knowingly and willingly, and this continued well into adulthood. She only played the victim, claiming she was trafficked when the tide of the war turned.
She wasn't trafficked, she overcame many obstacles to get there and join them, well she can bloody stay there.
Her own parents had begged her not to go and join them, which she and
her two friends took no notice of.
All totally unimportant in relation to the legal decision to revoke her citizenship.
Morality and legality don't always match.
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2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:it was quite clearly discussed after the JR part, and it's not just about tesla. you sound like one of those fact checkers that cherry pick certain parts to make it work.
So you have nothing but unfounded claims, therefore attack the ones with the facts
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2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:
I believe the chances of paying the Saudis in cash is slim, win or lose. However, if Trump wins, he could pay back the Saudis in ways other than cash.<snip>
Finally you're there.
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10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:
Simple answer:
Yes with an accompanying IPD which can be obtained from the Provincial Land Transport Office.
Slightly more complex answer:
GF needs to hold a permanent or 5 year driving licence (not a temp 2 year license) to obtain an IDP.
There are two main IDP Conventions - 1949 and 1968.
Find out which Convention your destination countries are a signatory.
Some countries (such as UK) have a mutual agreement in place and an IDP is not required (still, its best to be covered with an IDP if you are unsure).
I don't know of any EU county requiring an IDP when the license is in English, like the Thai one.
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5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:
Actually, the reverse is true: bond agencies worry about collecting from a sitting president.
I was referring to the Saudis as possible donors. Obvious if you look at the post I replied to.
No chance of him getting anything from the bond agencies.
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6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:
Trump has raised $1 million via GoFundMe. His appeal will cost $455 million.
He is also fundraising directly.
If I had to guess, his Saudi friends will help him. Or the Chinese.
Even for those who can afford it, it's a big gamble. In order to pay off he would have to be elected and stay in function for a full term and the house would have to be cooperative.
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36 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
Then again, allowing her back will send a message that terrorists will be forgiven if they go abroad and commit terrorism and they can just come back to the UK as if nothing had happened
Easily solved by a trial.
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29 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:
The OP!
Thanks. I presumed you were referring to her appeal that decision. Otherwise it was a superfluous post
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33 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:
She won't, her request for an appeal has been denied.
Source please.
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37 minutes ago, Hummin said:
So, how did this really turn out soon two years later?
Was called out as Putin friendly and totally off the border.
Is it still worth it? Have Ukrainians been used as a piece in a much bigger picture?
What now when other conflicts escalating?
How did it turn out? Bad for your assessment.
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1 hour ago, G_Money said:
Irrelevant to this thread.Best to ask the person who retained her, Trump himself.
Irrelevant, is that why you posted it?
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2 hours ago, Kinnock said:
Next we need to cancel the Citizenship of a few more people who are still in the UK.
Why is that? If they committed crimes, have a trial and lock them up.
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5 minutes ago, roo860 said:
Did she marry a Dutch terrorist (that's what ISIS is), what's happened to him, did the Netherlands accept him back?
In Syria, held in prison by the Kurds.
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7 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:I have limited sympathy for Begum, what she did was frankly stupid. She was only a teenager, and long experience of teenage girls ( as a father and teacher before anyone gets too frothy mouthed) leads me to be aware that at times they make the stupidest decisions for the flimsiest and silliest (sometimes stupidest) of reasons. I think this was one such case.
She has lost three babies I believe, and that in itself is punishment enough, if punishment be required.
Revocation of her citizenship was a political decision, driven by a desire to appease the tabloid press. It should be reinstated. She can then return to the UK, and rebuild her life. If she acts to jeopardise national security then there are ample laws under which to prosecute her. Leaving her to rot, stateless and destitute in a refugee camp will solve nothing, not serve to establish an effective precedent in case law.
I have to say that I find it difficult and depressing to find myself in agreement with Gareth Pierce "et al" but there we are.
One final point, a philosophical one perhaps, and one which I am sure many will scoff at: she joined, and was later subsumed into ( perhaps against her will) a society which seeks to replace our civilisation, based on Judeo- Christian values which include mercy, with one based on barbaric savagery and intolerance.What better way to emphasize the superiority of our society than to show her mercy.
This ruling was about the lawfulness of the previous rulings. Morality wasn't looked at and I presume will also not be looked at if the legal battle continues. But I thought this was the highest court, what else is there to appeal? Surely there must come an end to this.
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Lol, from Hutchinson's lawyer.
"Mr. Bobulinski claims under oath that he was not wearing a mask, that Mr. Meadows did not hand him anything, and that Ms. Hutchinson was 'fabricating facts,'" Hutchinson's lawyer wrote in the letter. "Perhaps Mr. Bobulinski's memory is impaired about the meeting, and a picture would help refresh his recollection."
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7 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:
Any move against the local Russian mafia would result in a pushback and serious consequences for the island.
Nonsense
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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:
Christian values AND nationalism?
Wow, this is going to get the lefties really riled up. Probably why they did it.
You really think they're doing this to get the lefties riled up? Not because they want to infuse Christian Nationalism into American politics?
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6 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:
This is from the post this morning from USA today yesterday:
But without a traditional victim in the fraud case, the appeals court has broad discretion to set a bond at perhaps a fraction of the total judgment.
And with that the cross-examination began 2 hours ago.
And here it ends.
So we now have an appeal against the bond?
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1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
If I post a source... which is available to anybody who is smart enough to use google... will you read it or do the usual liberal left turn and just deride the source? That's the problem with the forum rule on sources... it becomes about your OPINION ABOUT the source...
"So you have an opinion and stick to it, no matter what"... right?
That's the problem with untrustworthy/unreliable sources.
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With the gullible falling for it.
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45 minutes ago, VinnieK said:
Are these undercover coppers in the photo? 😱
There were quite a few of these around at tourist places. They talked to quite a few people. but proving they're working as guides is not always easy. I do hope it serves as a warning and will scare off some of the illegal ones.
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1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
Spoken like a true liberal... your perspective is sooo distorted that you cannot detect when someone is left of center because you have no center to use as a starting point... and no "the result " means nothing to me... I could care less about who did what and who is better than who... I leave that to you.
So you don't care but do post in the thread.
And nothing on your claim the source is biased.
So you have an opinion and stick to it, no matter what.
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8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:No proof, so it's just your opinion.
Lol, government statements and indictments are not proof. Better stick to al Jazeera opinion for proof then.
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23 minutes ago, Walker88 said:Smirnov is lucky he's in custody, and I suspect---speculate---that he will cooperate provided he can remain in custody and given protection.
The reason is he violated two kinds of sanctions dealing with Iran. One is he brokered oil sales. For that he'd get a slap on the wrist. The other is he tried to broker arms sales to Iran. That will get him on the screen of Mossad, and Mossad has their own particular way of dealing with such scoundrels.
I am more interested in the trump administration already knowing he was lying, and after that the republican senate at best being used by Russian intelligence.
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Trump moves to dismiss his classified documents indictment, citing presidential immunity
in World News
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Check your numbers please.