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8 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Look here

 

https://www.racetothewh.com/president/polls

 

GOP on target for 312. They only need 270.

As I said, I ignore general polls this far ahead of time.

6 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Look at the polls on Biden v Trump over the last 6 months. If you want to ignore them and just pick 1 exit poll good for you.  You are saying "I hate Trump so I will cherry pick alternate polls"

I am not picking any polls, I ignore general polls this far ahead of time. But this is a very specific one on a very specific issue, imo worth mentioning.

6 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

I'm not sure there is a "right wing" position on this issue.In fact many "right wingers" have argued that it is wrong to deny this woman her rights and privileges as a British citizen.It doesn't mean they have any sympathy for this woman but they dislike the concept of a powerful state which ignores ancient constitutional principles.Actually the proponents of a powerful interfering nanny state are usually to be found on the "left."

The comments here don't support your assessment.

11 minutes ago, Dolf said:

He is rising in the polls and Biden dodged the Superbowl because he is declining rapidly.

Righto, exit polls are meaningless and often wrong but the polls are important and show what's happening.

Why don't you just say what you mean: I have an opinion and will ignore contradictory facts. 

5 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Tim Scott is black. You are saying he's white?

What do you think is the meaning of 'wanna be'?

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why would I say that. I have no need to apologize to anyone least of all you

Because you were wrong.

9 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

He gets triggered very easily and if a link is not on his desk within 5 minutes of asking out goes the Teddy. 🥴

Your usual modus again.

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How many links do you want all saying at least 5 million

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11177619/Shamima-Begum-jihadi-bride-case-set-cost-taxpayers-5m-experts-warn.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13119535/Isis-bride-Shamima-Begum-loses-passport-appeal-thats-cost-UK-5million-judges-say-calculated-decision-travel-Syria-vows-fight-on.html

You could also say 'sorry, I mislinked the first time'.

The 5 million in that link is a prediction btw, not as claimed by the poster '5 million and counting '.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

The Nazis were left wing? Who taught you history?

Probably the same person that taught him evolution.

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

If it has cost £5 it is still £5 too much ,  why are you being so pedantic, its obvious to all that her legal bill will resemble a telephone number,  an international one at that. how much do think a QC charges,   i won't be providing a link but i will tell you they are not on minimum wage

Make a claim, substantiate the claim.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

That's a different link, different address.

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So you asked for a source, one was provided then you find your own, why waste others time?

Nowhere in your link does it mention your quoted text.

I shouldn't have to ask for a link anyways, it should have been given already.

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Begum's legal challenges are thought to have cost the taxpayer about £5million already, and if her case ever reached the Supreme Court, this figure could soar to more than £7.5million, according to legal costs expert Paul Fulcher

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11177619/Shamima-Begum-jihadi-bride-case-set-cost-taxpayers-5m-experts-warn.html

From the sun, https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26147959/shamima-begum-cost-millions-legal-bills/

"Her fight to return home has already cost more than £250,000 in legal aid, with experts estimating that could hit as much as £7million if she now takes her case to the Supreme Court.

Paul Fulcher of The Legal Costs Experts told The Sun: “I can see this reaching £7million.

“It can only get higher with the way this case it going. It’s a huge cost to the taxpayer.”"

From your link, which is from 2022 so costs will have risen,

"Legal experts believe that the cost of the case – in which Begum received legal aid – has already cost more than £2million.'

The text you're quoting I don't see in your link, which would be impossible anyway since your link is from 2022. Your article has been updated a few days ago, but nowhere does it say what has been updated.

33 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

It has cost the tax payer 5 million for her legal fees to date and rising.🥴

Could be. Source please.

9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Their immunity to facts is truly bizarre. It screams religion and / or low education.

And 'i don't care because I'm going to profit from it '.

9 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Trump isn't in europe.

So conservatism is limited to Trump?

So how about the Life on conception act from the Republicans? No IVF exception there.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/431?s=1&r=67#:~:text=Introduced in House (01%2F20%2F2023)&text=This bill declares that the,an individual comes into being.

"Introduced in House (01/20/2023) This bill declares that the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being at all stages of life, including the moment of fertilization, cloning, or other moment at which an individual comes into being."

5 minutes ago, Dolf said:

So Christians mainly live in Germany?

You understand 'the whole of Europe '?

44 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Most Christians by definition are conservative.

The whole of Europe proves you wrong. The CDU in Germany for example is by your standards a far left Marxist organisation.

54 minutes ago, retarius said:

Who are the vile monsters? In my book they are Israelis. In your book they are Hamas. I disagree with you and think you have no morals or scruples. 

That's because of the reasoning the Hamas attack happened in a vacuum and should be seen as unprovoked and the start of the war.

If it is placed in context one is labeled a vile Hamas supporter and anti-Semite.

3 minutes ago, retarius said:

Despite the negative tome on this forum, the girl was 15 when she made a mistake. 15 year olds should have a chance at redemption after a mistake. Her 3 children have died, and she has lived for years in a guarded refugee camp. Cancelling her citizenship was simply an act of vile inhumanity. I hope she thrives in the coming years.

And I hope she will use her status to prevent others from making the same mistake.

14 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

The legality, as the unanimous decision of the appeal court has found, was it was right and proper legally the decision to revoke her citizenship.

We'll have to wait for 1 more appeal.

Your earlier post/arguments are morally sound, but have no bearing on leaving her stateless.