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Ralph Nader will be turning in his grave,.... If he reads this Topic.

Why not just return to Hong Kong. You can sit on the lower deck, next to the engine room, on one of the ferries to the out islands near Hong Kong, Just ride back and forth, back and forth... And, take along one of the coolies there to carry on cases of beer, and even open them for you... Bottle by Bottle, until the ferries finally shut down for the night. After that, you can just sit by the harbor, drinking more beer, in a paper sack. Would this not be even better?

And, at this time, I would very much like to point out a piece of data not yet mentioned in this Topic: Let's try to not sound uncouth on this forum, if at all possible.

IF you want to know why this disaster happened in the first place: Just ask Jeffrey Sachs. He DOES know.

They used to do it only in Tahiti while standing in the ocean, at sunset.

That is your contention you however are ignoring the fact that while AC does reduce humidity it is hardly the MOST effective, The AC is the most effective way to reduce humidity in summer months or Hot Season, as I stated. Running a dehumidifier in not logical from an energy efficiency perspective. Also, as I stated, just one AC unit will remove up to 4 liters per hour of water from the room. And, the dehumidifier you pictured uses 700 watts of power to do much less. And, the dehumidifier will also heat up the room, which he is trying to cool down. This is NOT LOGICAL, at all.

No. The variables have NOT been addressed. Specifically: The coolant pressure, which should be the first thing tested, since, if true that this is a new machine...then it does not need cleaning. Also, what brand and model AC is this?

No. This is definitely NOT logical. The first step would be to ensure that the coolant pressure is correct. Since this is a new machine, then the installation may have been a problem. And, it is sometimes the case that a machine will be delivered with insufficient coolant. So, it is logical that, before spending money on a dehumidifier, the factory service should check this variable. A properly operating AC should NOT ice-up, even in 100-percent humidity. The AC will ice up if the indoor coil gets too cold (below 0-degrees C). And this should not happen if the machine is functioning properly.

Just go buy this AC and your problems will be solved: I have 2 of them. These machines, each machine, will remove about 4 liters of water, per hour. That should be more than enough, even for a horse running the Kentucky Derby, in the final stretch. And, no matter what anyone says.... The AC should NOT freeze up, even operating in 100-percent humidity, if installed properly and if the coolant is at the correct pressure. Buying a dehumidifier for use in the summer months, or the Hot Season is a... CRAZY IDEA. And, it is a huge waste of electric power, and money. This inverter in the unit I pictured will operate with a BTU output of from about BTU6000 to BTU240000, using an inverter, and so this is ideal even for smaller rooms, when the outdoor temp climbs to over 40-degrees C. If you set this machine, in your small room, to AUTO and set the temp to 16-degrees C, then you will be able to get the room temp down to about 18-degrees C, and the humidity down to about 50-percent, or even lower. How do I know? Because this is what I do. I have 3 Panasonic machines, and one is slightly smaller, at about 18,500BTU. I had an icing problem only one time on the smaller machine. And, this was due to not having cleaned the Hot Unit in a very long time. The thorough cleaning by the service company solved the icing problem, immediately. I do not like Panasonic Service. I like Hitachi Service... But, next time, I will still hold my nose (about the service) and buy Panasonic. Also, as I have said, I think there might be a QC problem at the factory because I have experienced quality defect problems in the past. Problems with fan noise on the outdoor condenser unit, for one. And, a thermostat problem on another machine. If the factory were able to produce exactly according to Panasonic specs, and with 100-percent defect-free parts, then I think this would make it far easier for buyers of Panasonic products. But, when you get a defect, and then you don't get the fast service to rectify the issue, then this becomes extremely exasperating. And this is why I HATE buying anything here. A huge pain in the neck. Unfortunately, importing is not really a good option. Again, it is the after-sales-service that is such a problem. And, there are probably many reasons for this failure.

YES!!!!!

Can anyone explain how the pricing can fluctuate so drastically in less than a week? Why is pricing so CRAZY at local stores? Here you have the same AC with price a week ago, BT6000 cheaper than price this week... Is this not just BONKERS???? This week's higher price, and higher by a LOT. This is just another reason why buying appliances here is such a thankless and disheartening experience. How do the locals put up with this nonsense???? Anybody know? Please provide your thoughts....

I was referring to sailors like the likes of Billy Budd, and many others.

Let's, instead, talk about: Fanny Hill, Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure Can we?

I am betting on Harris, again. I hope it's Harris. What a Gas!!!!

Actually, I am NOT confusing the problem, at all, in fact. And, as I have stated all along... This is the problem: However, if anyone wants to waste money buying a dehumidifier that will NOT change the problem with the AC, then ... They are most welcome to do so. I am just trying to keep this Topic evidence-based and logical. However, even you can see that I am fighting an uphill battle, and it is a lot of work, and a very slow slog. Still, an excellent way to exercise the old brain, I guess, on a Monday. So, the answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind, and just TOO obvious for words. IMHO, obviously.

I am well aware of what an air humidifier does, as I have used them in very cold winters. In order to test the AC, one will need to be able to humidify the air to various levels using a humidifier. He has stated that this happens only when exercising. Therefore, if he believes this, he can use a humidifier to raise the humidity of the room without much affecting temperature. Anyway, this question is rather ridiculous because he seems to be refusing to change his mind now that it has been made up without sufficient evidence. So, as I say, he will need to buy a hygrometer and measure humidity. Then find out at what relative humidity it happens. Also, find out IF the AC is even functioning enough to reduce the humidity in the room. AND, as we all know, the AC during summer months is one of the MOST effective ways of reducing humidity in a room, via condensing it on the cold coils of the evaporator unit. BUT, if there is insufficient coolant, due to a leak, then the coils will not get cold enough to condense water vapor in the room...fast enough. Of course, this entire thing has become just an academic thought experiment because...some people are just unwilling/unable to change their minds. Not just some people...but MOST people will not change their views even when faced with incontrovertible truths. The human mind just does not work that way. He needs a hygrometer, as a first step. And then he can proceed with some meaningful investigations from there.

I would suggest that you are: Confusing correlation with cause-and-effect.

The problem is that he has somehow come to the invalid conclusion that the icing is caused by excessive humidity, which is false. Reducing humidity in the room being cooled will therefore not reduce the probability that this problem will occur. IF he REALLY wants to show that this is being caused by humidity, then he will need to buy a humidifier and a hygrometer, and then do a lot of testing to rule out other more likely causes. He will need to do trials at varying temps and humidity. Also, one possibility is that exercising in a small room, maybe with other heat-producing equipment running, is causing the temp in the room to increase. And this increase causes the AC's compressor to run at a higher percentage of the time. And this, then, is what causes the ice to form. If this is the case, then he should have the AC serviced. And, he should check the factors that have already been suggested, such as coolant pressure loss, etc. One cannot just form a hypothesis, and then not test it, and then state that it is valid. That is just NOT DONE in science.

Is that what they informed you after re-attaching their heads?

Agree. Must have been, in every case, anxiety, tension, and flight or fright, but probably not fight.

Those lousy democrats in office. They're just so full of CB. Confirmation Bias, that is. Their view of reality is just so very.... WARPED, these days. Of course, it wasn't always like this. Such a shame, really, when a large group of people goes down the... Rabbit Hole into Wonderland. I mean, how could one ever vote for that group, again...?

Chop, chop

Not I. Not yet.

Surely, you meant Daily Delusions. Never underestimate the power of alliteration.

For me.... This is always best: