vermin on arrival

32 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Hardly going to make up the numbers for lost tourists though. Unless the big boys are included it's over for ages, UK, USA, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, China, South Korea and Japan are not clean from covid-19

I said for starters. It also enables the beginning of some kind of normalcy and enables people who got trapped in certain places to move and do things they need to do for their lives.

28 minutes ago, Oldie said:

New Zealand for instance still has a travel ban. Australia too. So even if Thailand allows them they cannot come. I think it is not that easy. 

Still has the ban because the bubbles haven't been negotiated, the whole point of travel bubbles is that they are not unilateral. They are based on bilateral or multilateral agreements. So not that easy because nations need to negotiate and agree to them, but certainly can do them if they desire to.

50 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

I just read an article in of the local rags(not going to mention which rag because I got a warning from a mod) that the newest strategy will be to target wealthy foreigners who will stay in one location for an extended period.  The article further stated the days of mass  tourism consisting of the likes of backpackers for Thailand is over????? Really??  This could be another sign that the leadership has no idea what they are doing?  July 1 is fast approaching and no indications what the new entrance policy for the masses will be.  

 

If one has to leave the country this year then have a backup plan to make it a one way trip.  

 

I had that one way trip planned for March 29 and the border closures on March 18th blocked me before I could flee back to Taiwan. Flight I got onto was 2 hours too late to board as EVA staff and service in BKK was useless. Now I am stuck waiting for Taiwan to let me back (unable to incorporate from outside the country) in our maybe Laos, but that would really be aided if the powers that be agreed to some kind of travel bubbles with nearby states who have dealt with the pandemic well. Seems like they may be using this horrible situation to get rid of those of us they deem unworthy to be here.

3 minutes ago, steevjee said:

But note, strictly for business purposes with written proof of business from the Taiwanese company, so no destination for holiday makers

Not sure of the others but currently Australia wont let Australians other than Diplomats and Medical experts travel anywhere outside of Oz, but there is talk of a bubble between Oz and NZ that will be for holiday makers.

Qantas just grounded all flights until October so I'm guessing someone high up has whispered in their ear

Sure, but it's a start. If travel bubbles are agreed upon, then more could be allowed. The main point I wanted to make was that countries with high quality epidemic control did actually see Thailand as low risk and it could be possible to set up a travel bubble if the nations involved agreed upon it.

Also interesting to note that BKK Post has an article today about Thailand using this situation to reset to being a destination for wealthy tourists and to move away from backpackers and tour groups. So the usual kak about high quality tourists again. Not surprising seeing that they shot down travel bubbles on the same day.

2 minutes ago, samran said:

I'm actually skeptical we will be getting a vaccine anytime soon. Nor for a magic bullet pill. What I suspect will happen will be some sort of combo therapy to blunt the worst effects for it.

Hopefully that and travel bubbles will be the best home for a return to some medium term normalcy. 

I also am skeptical of these magic bullets coming anytime soon and some realistic method of continuing life with sensible precautions must start first.

On 6/10/2020 at 8:17 AM, stupidfarang said:

A positive point is Australia and NZ are arranging a travel bubble between their two countries which is a first in the world, (good thinking OZ and NZ) now other countries are talking about travel bubbles.

 

 

That is off the table as Oz has extended it's border close to Sept 17 both in and out.

On 6/10/2020 at 8:02 AM, samran said:

All of this is unprecedented - true. But you can’t prove the counter factual either. 
 

What is well known however is that business abhors unpredictability. Now they don’t have the threat of pandemic to worry about, people are free to move around. Your borders are open to trade, and just not people. 
 

Will people suffer still? Sure. But now they have the best chance to get back on their feet without the threat of rolling shutdowns. 

Only if they keep their borders shut to high rick countries until a treatment or vaccine emerges. If you are lucky it's fast. If not, since there will be no herd immunity developing, NZ may be in a lot of trouble (there are number of epidemiologists who believe this policy is a mistake, but their voices are being stifled). For the moment, it is a great success story and may bear out to be long term. I do hope that they create travel bubbles with other successful nations in containing the virus.

On 6/9/2020 at 9:43 AM, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

This doesnt look like a ripple.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/wave-infections-threatens-collapse-japan-hospitals-70220083

That was from April 18 and the numbers were already on the decline looking at Japan's viral curve. Seems more like a scaremongering title to get hits.

On 6/14/2020 at 2:32 PM, Beandrops said:

That would be HUGE help! Thanks so much! 

I pmed you

37 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

And  if they only actually mean Permanent residents, then what about all those on retirement extensions and marriage visa extensions?

In general, travel bubbles mean a relatively free movement of all people who are in the respective nations via bilateral agreement on safety protocols since those nations have the epidemic under control. However, they may just restrict it to smaller subsets of people.

48 minutes ago, barryofthailand said:

In the past the Thai government said only 7% of the Thai economy was tourism 

Yes, but a lot of current information says it is in the 14-20% range.

7 minutes ago, natway09 said:

Thai Airways can fly to Auckland & bring a planeload of Kiwis back pretty well knowing that they will not spread any Covid.just as Singapore Airlines  is doing.

Problem: After their 10day holiday they have to go into 14 day isolation still on returning home

which makes it pretty much a non starter

Not if they have negotiated a travel bubble between the two nations, which means they have agreed to mutual safety protocols. Presumably all nations involved will have the same ones in place.

Let's hope it works out. Let people travel with sensible precautions between the countries who have dealt properly with the pandemic. Was only able to get on a flight to Taiwan that was leaving 2 hours after the country was closed due to the little notice and information that was given, and I am still stuck here. The travel bubbles will be mostly be regional short haul flights (except for NZ and Oz)

Yes, there is a pharmacy by Victory Monument. Let me look for the card I have. I think I still have my receipt too.

14 minutes ago, nauseus said:

With the right methods, of course you can.

Yes, I think so too. One method I have read that can be done is to have the staff needed to maintain the nursing home to actually live and be quarantined with the people they are to protect and care for for the duration of the emergency.