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UPDATE: OK, the friends of the Alzheimer's gentleman have come to their senses, they asked me to take him back to the U.K. The niece will pick him up at Heathrow. He will initially live with her or stay in a serviced apartment. She lives closer to London than what I was originally told. He has not been officially diagnosed with anything but obviously he is impaired. More info to follow.

I don't know the guy who has dementia but my friend who knows him is my neighbor.

At least one of the guys literally has way more money than what he knows to do with. Still, you're right if you're an older single person you must make proper contingency plans. I'm 59 and going down the same path.. so this is a wake up call that I need to make plans for my ultimate demise I don't want to burden others. I had another friend who was 46 living in Pattaya and he didn't take care of himself. Yep, beer bars, restaurants, awful food..hitting on everything that moved, thinking he was the studliest man in Pattaya. Well, a few months ago he went home, sat down and died. He was a big, tall guy. His roommate told me they came and literally plopped him down 2 flights of stairs, making an awful noise. He didn't care to make plans either but ultimately they did have a service for him at a later date.

I don't know, they seem to be doing what they can they just haven't put all the pieces together yet. I've seen my friend answer texts/answer phone calls discussing plans/finances, etc. Honestly if the sick guy has led a loner lifestyle without any close attachments these golfing "friends" maybe be a godsend.

I know I should but I don't even know the guy. But, if they don't get their s together...

I already told my friend I will escort him back if need be. He hasn't taken me up on my offer...yet.

Good points Sheryl. To summarize what I know, please forgive me for repeating some of this info. My friend knows him because he's part of a small group of friends who get together about 2 times a year for dinner in Bangkok. I think they're ex-golfing buddies. And yes, the guy who has dementia is able to walk fine, seems spritely but he's forgetting a lot. The friends have decided he needs help as his condition is obviously going to get worse. He sold his apartment, is currently renting. I think his financial situation is just "ok". I don't know how much care would cost here in Thailand, maybe that's why they want to send him back to U.K. He's 83, has no family except an 86 year old sister and a niece who he may barely know. As a group they are trying to arrange everything and I believe they're going to contact the Embassy, which is very important as they will probably learn A LOT about how to assist an ailing British ex-pat in Thailand. They're going to find out they can't just put him on a plane solo. Also these friends may not be very close, just ex golfing buddies who happen to care enough to try and help this guy. I can kind of relate as I'm here with no family and only have a few casual friends scattered between here and Las Vegas. He's 83 and alone and now he needs help but barely has anyone in his life to help him. I wonder how common a situation like this arises?

Thanks for all your inputs, they are very helpful. I don't have any new update right now, but I'll see my friend in a couple of days. He did say they were going to contact the embassy, so that's encouraging. I'm pretty sure the original plan to put him on a plane solo isn't going to happen, it doesn't even look possible. Thanks again, I'll post when I find out any new info.

Yes, this is a strange case where the guy with Alzheimer's has no family(no wife/no ex-wife/no kids). He has an 86 year old sister so that's probably no help and the niece that's 600KM away from Heathrow. His financial situation is ok. I offered assistance out of frustration, basically I was complaining "why don't you or your friends take him back?". and he downplayed it then didn't' want to discuss it further. We're still on speaking terms though. Good news is sometime during our discussion he mentioned they would contact the British Embassy. His apt. has been sold(he's currently renting) so that's already taken care of. I don't know all the facts as why they're sending him back to the U.K. I can only surmise they think the U.K. NHS will take care of him. He has no home to go back to. He may barely know the niece but once again, he does have a 86 year old sister. At least 2 or 3 of his friends are getting this plan together, and I can vouch for my friend he's been very successful his whole life and usually get things done proper. It's just the whole put him on a plane and send him on his way that I just don't agree with. Seems really unacceptable. Who knows maybe there's a few key points about their plan I don't know about and he'll be fine. Doesn't seem so but you never know. Abourt 6 months ago a quiet guy that lived below me found out he had early stage Alzheimer's. He was running Venom or Cobra I forget. Anyway, his brother came over from the U.K. Sold his condo and escorted him back to the U.K. I installed a new T.V. in that condo after he left. It was completely empty except for a bottle of cologne. It was just so gd sad I don't wish dementia on anyone.

he's supposed to leave early March and his passport expires 15 March

Thanks, I'll forward this to the appropriate person.

You're a hero for helping that person and I'm not surprised it's exhausting. I think in this case they'll figure out, or be forced, to have someone accompany him on his flight back to the U.K. Can you imagine they stick him on the plane and when he gets to Heathrow he has no idea where he is nor where to go? Nightmare.

I have a feeling in the end they'll do the right thing..especially since I don't think they can put him on a plane without someone noticing he's impaired. Plus I stuck my nose into this I've already made one of the friends mad at me but this is something worth fighting for. I've never met the 83 year old guy, I've just heard the stories, mostly on how forgetful he is.

From the stories I hear it's pretty bad. They're in a lot of denial he has no family except for the niece who he may not have seen in decades. I don't have all the details but to me it's pretty straight forward. A friend has Alzheimers he needs to be taken care of. Dumping him on a plane by himself is ridiculous.

I will ask them about this. Thanks!

I actually said this to one of the guys 30 minutes ago! He said he's very docile, he'll have all the paperwork on him blah blah blah.

you're right about the selfishness!

They haven't been able to contact her..I dont' know all the details but I think the plan is for him to get off the plane at Heathrow and catch a cab to hospital. No airport staff involved either. Flight is scheduled for first week of March.

He's 83 years old. Lives alone. He has no relatives except for a niece 600KM from Heathrow. He's got Alzheimer's pretty bad and obviously deteriorating every day. He's got 3 or 4 friends they want to send him back to U.K. on a plane. Alone. I spoke up and said "someone has to escort him back to the U.K. Period. As far as I know they're all similar age retirees, they say they're too busy but it really looks to me like nobody wants to step up. I don't know the guy but I said I'd do it but they said no. They're trying to arrange everything for his solo flight to U.K. but I'm thinking someone needs to escort him back. Maybe I'm wrong?

Okay, I checked and here's what it would cost me to send 500 GBP via Wise. 1. Debit Card: 7.38 GBP fee. Maybe another fee idk. 2. Bank Account: 4.12 GBP fee. This would give Plaid access to bank account info.

How much would it cost to send 500 GBP?

I checked, you're right to get $500 from the U.S. it costs: 1. Approx 15 USD via Debit Card. 2. Approx 6 USD via Wise.

I think I'm going to do the same, there isn't really much price difference between Wise and Debit Card anymore.

Yes I'm trying to send money from my U.S. bank to Bangkok Bank. I try to bypass the Plaid option but there's no way around it. I did a little more digging and you can register an account on plaid.com to see what information they're getting from you..with the option to shut any account plaid is accessing. I don't know if I'm going to use Wise anymore or not, this is just too intrusive.

I apologize in advance if this has been brought up before. However, today I tried to use Wise and right before I press the last button it says I need to approve "Plaid" to reconnect my bank account. This is the first time this has come up and I've been using Wise every month for 2 years. I did a quick google search and if I approve Plaid it allows them to extract information from my account. Anyway, just curious as to what your experience has been. Did this happen to you? Does this keep you from using Wise anymore?