Red Phoenix

15 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

I have put the scan in a separate topic in Thai language for now:

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308266-checklist-of-supporting-documents-for-marriage-extension/

 

This is the first of three sheets I got.

The other two are obviously just the original Thai version of the immigration order (explaining 40k, 400k, seasoning etc.). I will check this tomorrow and if it makes sense (new or different from what's known) will add it.

I reduced the scan to 1280 x 1761 pixel and it looks readable. If necessary I have the full size 600 dpi scan (5100 x 7015 pixel).

Attached the English version of the KhonKaen Marriage Extension requirements, as generated by Google translate from the Thai original as provided by KhunBENQ

17 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

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I got this today at Khon Kaen immigration office asking for a checklist regarding one year extension based on marriage with Thai wife.

It's dated 27. September 2023.

 

Attached the English version of the KhonKaen Marriage Extension requirements, as generated by Google translate from the Thai original.

48 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Check what was published by the medical community not your memory, social media, or politicians. Biden isn't a doctor, scientist or part if the medical community

Nothing wrong with my memory...

Here some statements made by influencers about Covid-Vaccine efficacy.

Forget the 2 Talking Heads and the self-declared expert.

But Fauci and Walensky are doctors and Bourla is a veterinarian. 

~

53 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Was at KK immigration this morning.

One year extension with income statement.

Documents prechecked by interns.

25 min wait.

10 min at the counter.

 

Checklist marriage:

I got two sheets in Thai language. They don't have it in English ???? When I am back home I will scan it and either publish here or send by PM.

Translation is another matter.

@KhunBENQ  Great! And thank you very much

You can simply make a clear photo of each page and post those pictures here (or PM them to me). 

With Google translate it takes seconds to generate an english translation from a Thai text of photo.  And I will then post them here as a service to you and other KhonKaen Marriage extension applicants.

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On 10/1/2023 at 7:27 AM, Bkk Brian said:

The A.P. article is correct, they are not attempting to debunk McKernans findings and in fact support them. They are however fact checking false social media posts and articles misrepresenting the paper. They quote McKernan and his paper correctly:

 

[McKernan] "He says researchers involved in the study, which is a “pre-print” that has not been published in a peer-reviewed academic journal, discovered an “SV40 promoter” in the Pfizer vaccine."

But that’s not the same as finding the full SV40 virus in the shot, stressed McKernan, a former research director at MIT’s Human Genome Project who now runs Medicinal Genomics, a Massachusetts company that sells DNA testing kits and other laboratory materials to cannabis companies.

“The fear about the SV40 sequences is total nonsense,” he wrote. “The vaccine is not going to cause cancer. There is no cancer causing gene in the vaccine.”

https://apnews.com/ap-fact-check/no-monkey-virus-dna-was-not-found-in-covid-vaccines-00000188e957d32da188e9ff1aef0000

The header of that Fact-Check article puts the reader on the wrong foot.

But when reading the full Fact Check indeed the content of the A.P. article is correct, they are not attempting to debunk McKernans findings and in fact support them.

But using that header 'No Monkey Virus DNA was found in covid-vaccines' is disingenuous.  An alternative header like 'Only Monkey Virus promoters were found in covid-vaccines' and rating that claim CORRECT would have been far more informative.  

I also note that you tried to smuggle a debunker of McKernan's findings in your response, by attributing the claim that "the fear about the SV40 sequences is total nonsense" to him.

On the contrary, McKernan is quite concerned about these SV40 sequences.  And it was not McKernan but Phillip Buckhaults that made that 'nonsense' claim, when he back-pedaled the statements he made during the congressional hearing, where he confirmed McKernan's findings.

2 hours ago, zenplay said:

Thanks. If all documents are OK, will I get the 12 months extension on the same day as application ?

When your application for the 1-year extension of stay is based on your original 90-day Non Imm O Visa for reason of RETIREMENT > Then yes

But if your application is based on an original 90-day Non Imm O Visa for reason of MARRIAGE (or dependant children) > Then you will have to go through an 'under consideration' period, during which your application needs to be approved by Divisional Headquarters and during which you might get a visit from Immigration to check whether you are indeed living together with your Thai wife at the address you provided.  That's a mostly bureaucratic process and it is very very rare that an Imm Office accepted application is later rejected. The 'under consideration' period normally takes approx 2 weeks and Immigration provides you with a date on which you have to come back to get the approved stamp in your passport. 

2 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Not very 'comprehensive' if the list doesn't cover every office.

Comprehensive - complete; including all or nearly all elements or aspects of something.

A document that would cover all the detailed and DIFFERENT requirements for the 1-year extension application for reason of Marriage as applied in all +76 Thai Imm Offices, would be both massive, impractical and unreadable. 

I requested the OP to provide me with the requirements document as provided by his local Imm Office, so that I can provide detailed comments on how to deal with these specific requirements.  And that Imm Office specific Guideline document would be quite comprehensive. 

29 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Is it a secret document?

Why not post your comprehensive guideline for the benefit of all members.

I wrote that Guideline for another AN member using the requirements documents of his specific Imm Office, and providing comprehensive comments on how to deal with each of those requirements.  

When the OP provides me with the requirements for his Pathum Thani office, I will customize the Guideline to address those requirements (since the detail requirements for every Imm Office differ). 

5 minutes ago, Olmate said:

How come Samui  departure dont have? 

I don't know whether Samui has an Immigration Re-Entry Permit desk at its airport.

But all major international Thai airports (e.g. Suvarnabhumi, Don Mueang, Chiang-Mai, Phuket, ...) have a 24-hour manned Re-Entry Permit desk for international departures < all of them situated behind security check and just before/after the Immigration booths where you are stamped out >. 

1 minute ago, 2long said:

Apparently there's an immigration office or two in Bangkok, as well as surrounding provinces. Can't you just go to one of them on any day before you fly?

You could give it a try, but as the BKK Imm Office is not the local Imm Office where you have your 'official address for Immigration purposes', chances are they will refuse to provide you with a Re-Entry Permit. 

9 hours ago, Melpomene said:

Hello all - I posted a few weeks back about having to pop to HCMC to get another non-imm O visa based upon marriage to give myself time to allow the 400k to season for two months.  However, I've managed to get my ducks in a row a bit quicker than I thought and with doing the 60 day extension I think I will just about be able to apply for the one year extension based upon marriage before the extension stamp expires.

 

My time line is as follows :

 

25/09 - 400k deposited in my account

28/11 - my current permission to stay ends

 

It's going to be pretty tight and annoyingly the two month seasoning date is a Saturday (25/11), so potentially the earliest I could apply is 27/11 which is the day before my permission to stay expires - is this cutting it too fine given it'll be my first experience applying for this extension and there's a chance I'll have some document missing/incorrect ?  Would it be worth applying on 24/11 (I'd say 25/09 - 24/11 is two full months ????), or is this likely to be futile and risk irritating the immigration officer ?

 

Many thanks...

It is indeed 'cutting it fine' for the 1-year extension of stay application, especially since you wrote that it will be your very first 1-year extension of stay application for reason of Marriage. 

But for sure it is not impossible. 

I would suggest you proceed as follows: 

#1 - Get hold of the 'requirements document' for a 1-year extension for reason of marriage at your local Imm Office.  This is important as every Imm Office has different requirements on the details of these requirements, and will not accept your application when it is not 100% in compliance with THEIR requirements.

#2 - Then get hold of all documents (except the ones that need to be up-to-date on date of application), and visit Imm Office again to enquire whether that provisional trial-application meets their requirements.

#3 - Apply at the earliest day possible (as confirmed by the Imm Office, as they might allow 60 days instead of 2 months for your application), which will give you sufficient time to get hold of any missing or incomplete documents, for the application.  

NOTE that I recently compiled a comprehensive Guideline for such a 1-year extension of stay application based on an original Non Imm O Visa for reason of MARRIAGE.

When you are interested in receiving that Guideline do send me a PM, as well as at WHICH Imm Office you will be applying for the 1-year extension (and the 1-year extension of stay requirements document from that Imm Office if you have that already).  

Cheers and success!

6 hours ago, fgmr said:

Can the TM30 be completed and registered online?

If I am staying in a Province where the nearest IMO is located in another province can my friends submit the form there?

Is there a time limit to submitting a hard copy?

Years ago I just reported my presence at the local Tambon Police Station! I cannot recall a TM30 being mentioned.

Last year my hosts were fined 1600 B for not submitting the form.  when they asked how they would know of the various forms needed by foreigners the response was, "You have to know!"

What is the IQ level required by IMOs when joining the Ministry?

 

#1 - Can the TM30 be completed and registered online?

Yes, the owner, landlord or tenant of the place where you are staying, can register the premises on the IO TM-30 website.  And that will then allow him/her to notify the local Imm Office online that a foreigner is staying at the premises (TM-30 notification). 

#2 - If I am staying in a Province where the nearest IMO is located in another province can my friends submit the form there?

You have to register at the Imm Office of the province where the premises are located, even if another Imm Office is much closer. 

#3 - Is there a time limit to submitting a hard copy?

Such notification (be it on-line or done in person with hard-copy) should be done within 24 hours of the foreigner arriving at the premises. 

Most Imm Offices are lenient on that '24 hours' requirement (which is mainly aimed at Hotels/Guesthouses), so when doing it within 1-2 weeks is normally accepted.  But as TiT there are of course Imm Offices who will fine you for not having done it in time.

#4 - Years ago I just reported my presence at the local Tambon Police Station! I cannot recall a TM30 being mentioned.

That was in the time when some provinces did not have their own Imm Office.  TM-30 regulations have changed and it is currently a hard requirement to have a TM-30 filed to get any service from an Imm Office. 

Note that you might not be aware that you filed a TM-30, because when providing your local Imm Office with a copy of your rental agreement (a necessary accompagning document when staying at a rented place) the local Imm Office might file a TM-30 for you without them telling you.

#5 - Last year my hosts were fined 1600 B for not submitting the form.  when they asked how they would know of the various forms needed by foreigners the response was, "You have to know!"

Yes, you are supposed to 'know the law'.  But of course the law (and Imm requirements) in Thailand are a very fluent concept as every Imm Office has the authority to interpret, adapt and amend the requirements as they see fit.  

And crazy as it might sound, the Imm Office can fine you, if the owner/landlord or host of the place where you are staying has not submitted a TM-30 of you staying at the premises. And since it is you that needs an immigration service (e.g. an extension of stay) you will then have little choice but to pay that fine, as otherwise they will not provide you with any service.  

#6 - What is the IQ level required by IMOs when joining the Ministry?

IQ level is irrelevant, what matters are having the right 'connections' and sometimes providing a 'brown envelope' to get the job (obviously, the appointee will then often also apply 'brown envelope' tactics to recover his investment).   

On 9/28/2023 at 4:37 AM, twestheimer said:

I also want to stay about 85 days but was told the return flight must be less than 60 days 

 

Changing flights is EXPENSIVE these days and I was told by the NY consulate they would not issue an e-visa for 60 days if my return flight was longer than 60 days... 

My inclination is to book my 86 day flight and do a visa on arrival allowing one 30 day extension and then doing a trip outside Thailand and do a second 30 day ... What a pain! 

When you leave for Thailand with a VISA there is no need for an onward flight,  

Such onward flight ticket reservation is ONLY required when entering Thailand VisaExempt (without a Visa) and the flight-reservation has to be for an outbound flight on a date prior to the 30 days Permission to stay you will receive on entry from Thai border-immigration.

Note that you can buy a fully legit out-bound flight reservation online for 10-15 US $ at onwardticket.com or similar sites.  That actual reservation stays valid for 2-3 days after which it is automatically cancelled, so you need to buy it the evening before or morning of the date your flight to Thailand is scheduled.

On 9/27/2023 at 6:16 PM, Red Phoenix said:

Can someone please post here the document with the requirements for the 1-year extension application for reason of Marriage from the Khon Kaen office?  Or alternatively PM to me? Thanks in advance.

Would also be good to know if there are any EXTRA requirements for the very first 1-year extension of stay application (e.g. some Imm Offices in that case require that you bring a witness or that you provide a copy of the Certificate of Singleness when you did marry in Thailand). 

I am sending the above request to all posters in the current thread, as one of you might have the requirements document as provided by the Khon Kaen office

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Thanks in advance!

1 minute ago, bbko said:

Aren't we only allowed one extension per visa stamp? As in once an extension is given for that visa, you're not allowed a 2nd extension.

Yes, that's correct: When you are on an unbroken chain of Permissions to stay based on the same Non Imm O Visa, you are allowed only one 60-day extension for reason of visiting your wife.  

Note that when you entered VisaExempt or on a Tourist Visa that you can apply once for a 30-day extension of stay as well as once for a 60-day extension of stay for reason of visiting your wife.

On 9/27/2023 at 6:10 PM, ChaiyaTH said:

Obviously I mean at the end either a 30 or 60 day extension with papers as usual.

When you are in Thailand on a Permission to stay based on a Non Imm O Visa (be it for Retirement or Marriage or any other reason), you cannot apply for a 30-day extension of stay at your local Imm Office, as such 30-day extensions are ONLY for those that entered on a VisaExempt or Tourist Visa.

But when you are married to a Thai national you can ALWAYS apply at your local Imm Office for a 60-day extension of stay for reason of visiting your wife and it doesn't matter on which Visa you entered Thailand (be it VisaExempt, Tourist, Retirement or Marriage). 

2 hours ago, elliottm said:

If you currently reside under Non Imm O for Thai spouse annual extension is it possible to use Thai child if you have had a child while married at the next extension?

Yes, that is possible but be aware that there are a couple of Imm Offices that do not allow you to apply for reason of dependant child (so better check with your local Imm Office). 

The obvious benefit for doing an application for reason of dependant child instead of for reason of being married to a Thai national, is that the 400.000,- THB on a personal Thai bank account ONLY need to be available at the moment of application for the dependant child based 1-year extension.  While for a 1-year extension based on your Non Imm O Visa for reason of marriage, the funds need to be seasoned on your Thai bank-account for at least 2 months at the moment of application.