TroubleandGrumpy

Feelings - all I get are feelings.

I know you dont see or hear them - but they are there - in the form of facts and policies. You clearly dont like the guy - but why hate him so much? Because you are told lies about him and mud sticks. Example - he dodged a bullet and then stood up and shouted FIGHT - he aint no cry-baby mate. Fact. All your other personal criticism are just that - personal criticisms - Harris has many more personal flaws too..

I see - no facts - more feelings and personal insults.

They (Trump haters) are just so rabid - Trump has not decided to 'not be bothered with it' - he has accepted the SCOTUS decision. That decision was that abortion is a health care issue (not a global human right) and therefore whether abortions are legal or not is a State matter as per the Constitution of USA. Some States have banned them except in certain situations (Arizona has OK's up to 15 weeks, then only for proven medical issues), and other States have made them legal - I believe California has made it legal right up until birth. Abortions is being loid about by the Dems and MSM, as an attack against Trump. he has been smarter than last time, and this time he is shutting up about abortions and saying it is a State matter - which it is.

LOL - unbelievable - some more facts but with lots of feelings. Your take on what happened is biased against Trump and mine are biased towards Trump - well done on that. I know you believe fully what MSM states happened - but the fact is that Trump backed off destroying Obamacare because of the situation. Just like he backed off immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan due to the situation that would cause. Likewise, Trump is going to remove the impacts of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) that caused workers voluntary tips to be taxed - fact. You clearly did not read the article in full - voluntary tips were not taxed unless declared - the IRA made employers legally liable to report estimated voluntary tips (people were not reporting the cash handouts given as tips). Harris was the deciding vote that passed the IRA - fact. Trump states he is going to remove all taxes on tips - Harris camp knows she will lose on that one - so they take the lesser of two evils and agree to also remove that bad part of the tax that she imposed. But if you listened closely she said 'hospitality and service' workers. If you know socialists like I do - that means the Act will decide who are 'service and hospitality' workers. Trump said he is going to remove it for all workers.

Trump's statements are all rated as Liar or False Harris' statements are all Mostly False or Half-Truth. Independently looking at all the statements made by both of them - they are all mistruths and distortions - both of them.

Slightly Left?? Mate - when elections time comes they are as bad as Snopes. Check this out from their website - it is a total lie - not mostly false. That right there is the mistruths and distortions that I am talking about. They all 'lie' and speak in forked tongues - but the MSM is extremely biased against Trump. Obama was the most polished accomplished liar I have seen - better than Bill Clinton or George Bush (1 and 2). From this exercise in this thread - it is clear that most of that anti-Trump hatred is feelings and not facts.

You heard me - so I must be talking to someone ?? Having said that - it is easy enough - my typing skills are as Donald would say 'huuuuuuge' - I can type almost as fast as I can speak. Years of writing documents needed by a deadline (and a good spell checker).

LOL - what facts have you presented?? Only lies mistruths and BS. Because that is all you have - plus personal abuse.

Yes I can - and so can you - why dont you try doing that?? Have you ever noticed something and wondered 'why'? Type in Trump to Google and most of what you will see is MSM lies and mistruths - they are Pro-Dems - and they have been for a long time. Elon Musk bought Twitter and removed all the left wing bias - he has shown plenty of evidence to show they and Facebook and Google manipulated their public interactions to help the Dems. This is what the People are seeing day after day - but there are more and more who have seen through the lies. The MSM is not unbiased - they are no longer news organisations - they are political allies of the Dems.

10 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Read it in context mate - Harris IS a lie. Anything else?? Brilliant - how did I not see that ??

Debunked. Harris refused to debate on Fox - after Trump accepted two debates with anti-Trump MSM. What makes the MSM news?? Harris refuses debate?? No. Trump refuses 3rd debate!! The MSM lies - they are Fake News - and Dems 'believers' lap up everything they say.

More insults and abuse - can anyone see the pattern?? Do the Trump haters have any self awareness???

Good one mate - made me laugh. Back to the slog ..............

Yep - other than a couple of posters - it is all just insults and abuse. I feel like I am talking to teenagers and trying to tell them something they dont want to hear. The majority dont listen and just throw insults back - and when asked for reasons they say 'because'.

Are you describing Biden?? Sure sounds like it. Have you Trump haters not looked at his term in Office - besides all the MSM driven hatred and fake news - he did OK.

You will be unlikely to read more because this forum is 'infested' with anti-Trump hating lefties. Unlike in USA politics where it is about 50/50 - here it is 90/10. Just saying what others say about AN political discussions. I am willing to take them on - for a while - maybe something good will come of it. If I can 'wake up' just one of them, it will be worth it - maybe.

They were no lies mate - and if you think that you are delusional - they were his policies. Trump was way-laid - his plans were rejected, stalled and canned - especially The Wall. He even tried to ban people entering from China for the Chinese New Year in Jan 2020 - that was stopped by the Dems for 'Racist'. The Dems put their own politics above the benefit of the People - they always do.

Daffy always left me cold - reminds me of Harris.

Atypical leftie Trump hater's comment - sad - so sad.

Read it in context mate - Harris IS a lie. Anything else??

Agreed - she was a disaster that somehow scraped through - better than Biden - just. The pro-Trumpers saw the bias and the softballs to Harris and the hard-balls at Trump. The pro-Harrisers saw nothing wrong. Those who are on the fence saw that there was something wrong - Harris was given a free pass and helped.

He is great and I love him. Anything besides abuse and insults??

Harris refused to debate on Fox - after Trump accepted two debates with anti-Trump MSM. What makes the MSM news?? Harris refuses debate?? No. Trump refuses 3rd debate!! The MSM lies - they are Fake News - and Dems 'believers' lap up everything they say, like a rabid religious devotee.

Still waiting for facts - not interested in your feelings of hatred towards Trump or myself or others.