TroubleandGrumpy

Daffy always left me cold - reminds me of Harris.

Atypical leftie Trump hater's comment - sad - so sad.

Read it in context mate - Harris IS a lie. Anything else??

Agreed - she was a disaster that somehow scraped through - better than Biden - just. The pro-Trumpers saw the bias and the softballs to Harris and the hard-balls at Trump. The pro-Harrisers saw nothing wrong. Those who are on the fence saw that there was something wrong - Harris was given a free pass and helped.

He is great and I love him. Anything besides abuse and insults??

Harris refused to debate on Fox - after Trump accepted two debates with anti-Trump MSM. What makes the MSM news?? Harris refuses debate?? No. Trump refuses 3rd debate!! The MSM lies - they are Fake News - and Dems 'believers' lap up everything they say, like a rabid religious devotee.

Still waiting for facts - not interested in your feelings of hatred towards Trump or myself or others.

I know you believe all that rubbish - but that is mistruths and lies as spread by the MSM and anti-Trump Pro-Dems media. Got any facts??

Or I can do none of that and state that you have no 'argument' only abuse and insults - like most Trump haters.

Fair enough statement - I wish other lefties were so articulate and not full of hate and abuse. I only respond in kind when someone hurls abuse my way - but I do tone it down. The same thing was said about Trump in 2016 - WW3 etc etc etc - and yet how did he go? WW3 is happening now under Biden - would Russia have invaded under Trump? I very much doubt it. Thanks for the thoughts and opinion exchange - you remind me of one of my best mates back in Aust - he was a die hard leftie - but we could debate and talk over a meal/wine/beer without getting personal. Lets agree to disagree and move on - time will show who was correct.

Wanna bet??

Part of a large group of changes that resulted in - Unprecedented Economic Boom Before the China Virus invaded our shores, we built the world’s most prosperous economy. America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections. Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration. The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century. Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings. More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million. Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low. The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record. Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades. Trump Administration Accomplishments – The White House (archives.gov)

Thanks for the question/s - more tomorrow - wife is calling and dinner/movie beckons 🙂

Lets hope that it never happens - because if Harris wins that is exactly what will happen. Many years ago Ann Coulter made 2 predictions on TV - and she was attacked and ridiculed by the MSM. 1. She said Trump would win the election. 2. She said that if the Democrats ever get back into power they will open the border and try to let 10-20 million refugees flood into the country and get them all made legal so they can vote, and the GOP will not win another election for 2+ decades. Luckily, Trump will win again - and he will deport most of the illegals.

Trump gave tax cuts that stimulated the economy and worked !! Trump was told of the downsides to try and move the troops out quickly, so he commenced the negotiations with the Taliban. Once Biden was elected he threw out Trump's negotiated deal and the Taliban retaliated and started to take over because they knew Biden would not do anything about it (unlike Trump who destroyed ISIS). Then Biden tried to get them out quickly, and ignored the military's advice not to do that. The deaths and destruction that happened are all on Biden - and Harris who was in the room and admits agreeing to Biden's dementia affected plan. Although a lot of Americans died, there were a lot more Afghanistan people who were killed as collaborators - have you not seen the video of the last USA plane leaving with people running along side desperately pleading to be taken with them. Never again will USA troops in any country overseas gain the trust and support of the local people - they all know what Biden did and that it could happen again - one of the worst acts by a POTUS in the history of USA politics. Did the MSM attack Biden over that? Not a chance - page 3 at best then all forgotten - same as the assassination attempts on Trump. Despicable. BOMBSHELL REPORT: Biden Admin Left 9K Americans in Afghanistan, Originally Claimed 150 - Articles - James E Risch, U.S. Senator for Idaho (senate.gov)

I saw this and laughed so much - thought I would share it - brilliant.

Excellent point - just who is running the country?? Biden is mentally unfit for the role and has been for several years. Harris is unfit mentally for non-dementia reasons - she is just another Biden DEI hire. So who has been making all the decisions??? When Trump takes Office he is going to find out, and if Obama and anyone else has been involved in making decisions the POTUS can only make, he will be arrested and charged - happy days.

Very true. And if you ever wonder whether Hitler and Stalin and Mao were left wing - that is the proof they were (despite the re-writing of history). It is atypical of left wing totalitarian States to shut down and destroy anything and anyone that dis=agrees with their positions. Much like the woke liberals of today with their cancel culture mentality.

Ditto. Ooops I just did 🤣

At last. I hear you and can understand most of what you are saying, and I do agree with some of your points. You have made a very good summary of what the issues are with regards to Trump as a person (flawed) and how divided politics currently is in the USA. However, before I go into a few things in response - and like you I dont want just to throw abuse back and forth - there is a view on things that you may not have considered enough. When someone is clearly in one side of the political divide, it is very hard for them to truly see the errors and inconstancies and the faults of that side they have chosen - but they can see every single flaw and fault of the other side. In that position it is very hard for a person to reconcile their own formed views against any factual situation that challenges that view - it is called cognitive bias. According to Google, 'Cognitive bias is a systematic thought process caused by the tendency of the human brain to simplify information processing through a filter of personal experience and preferences. The filtering process is a coping mechanism that enables the brain to prioritize and process large amounts of information quickly.' And that is as viable an explanation as I can find - and I am certainly not immune from it either. However, although not immune, I can see the arguments about Trump and his personality 'disorder' and his growing mental slow down - absolutely. But aside from the mental slowdown part, that 'personality disorder' is extremely common in hyper successful men - Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison etc etc etc. They all have a personality disorder as such, and they all have a very strong ego and self belief - those traits are absolutely necessary to become what they have become - it is genetic - you can 'grow it'. I know that makes Trump very 'unappealing' to many people - but if I was to say to you that Obama was not the smooth sweet lovely man that he portrayed himself to be - would you accept and understand that he is a diplomatic politician and he has the social skills to perform that act brilliantly - and that was why he was selected over Hillary, who is far less 'convincing'. I have met many politicians and the top dogs are those that have the ability to stab you in the back while smiling to your face - the King of them being Bill Clinton. Trump is not a good experienced and seasoned politician at all - but I accept that (and all his flaws) because he has IMO the right policies compared to the Dems (as I listed before). He is by far the better option to have as POTUS in the current world situation - especially with the situations developing in Europe and Russia. The USA is being presented witrh the choice between 2 very personally flawed people, but I am certain that if Trump is elected and becomes the POTUS again, he will achieve a good outcome for USA and the World. Hopefully that will happen and people like yourself who can see/hear the 'other side' will then accept that he did a good job and that they were wrong. I also thought Bill Clinton was a charlatan, and to some extent he was/is, but he achieved a lot of good things. Impeaching him for being caught being 'naughty' with a female intern was one of the biggest mistakes the GOP has ever made - it was what IMO started the divide in USA politics. The inevitable hatred that has flowed from then, made into an artform by the Dems and stupidly ignored by the GOP, is not a good thing and it aint over yet. One more term for Trump in a landslide win is the answer IMO - because I think he will bridge the divide - after he has destroyed what Biden/Harris have done. That will happen I hope, and unlike after 2016 when they protested and attacked Trump for denying Hillary's turn, the Dems in power will be forced to go back to the middle ground and dump all the lunatic left wing woke policies that are not what the USA is about.

Indeed - and that is why all I am getting (save a few thoughts and some good funny lines) is personal abuse and insults. They have no 'argument' - because it is all personal. Years ago when Maggie Thatcher's funeral march was under way, left wing nutters were yelling abuse and throwing stuff at her cavalcade - they are always far too personal and will even 'invade' a funeral to express their personal hatred - they did the same at Reagan's - awful people. IMO it comes from emotional immaturity and the associated lack of rational thinking - like spoilt children who dont care about others - they only want they want - they refuse to see anyone else's point of view, let alone even countenance that another view is acceptable.

I dont read the WAPO much - Fake News and truly one of the Dems MSM PR outlets. Mate - just read this below from your link aloud - surely you can see is is totally biased:- Trump made about six false or misleading claims a day in his first year as president, 16 a day in his second year, 22 a day in his third year — and 39 a day in his final year. Put another way, it took Trump 27 months to reach 10,000 false or misleading claims and another 14 months to reach 20,000. He then exceeded the 30,000 mark less than five months later.

Not bad - being paid by the word was good. Trump and all the other 'right wing' political Leaders, like in Argentina and in more and more European countries (is Macron gone yet?) , are good for the World overall. I love Trump because he stands for what I agree with and is willing to fight for MAGA - and he is willing to dodge a bullet to do it too.

No - just looking for a rational debate - cant find much though. Care to share some thoughts??

Such hatred and petty silliness - and so little substance. Trump wanted to become POTUS to 'save' USA - he initially wanted to be a Democrat nominee but it was clear that they were gone left - and their selection policies and methods mean that the Party leaders decide who it is - not the Dems voters - and it always amazes me that Dem voters fail to see that. Even when they all voted for Biden - he was just thrown away and Harris was 'anointed'. And lets not talk about how Clinton was given the nod when it was very clear that more Dem Party members wanted Sanders as the nominee. That is why Trump went over to the GOP side - more of their policies matched his own beliefs, and their selection policy and method for the nominee is totally decided by the GOP Party members. Yes many existing powerbrokers in the GOP did not (and do not) like Trump in 2016 - but they had no choice because the GOP Party members wanted him as the nominee - same this time around too.