TroubleandGrumpy

Lets hope that it never happens - because if Harris wins that is exactly what will happen. Many years ago Ann Coulter made 2 predictions on TV - and she was attacked and ridiculed by the MSM. 1. She said Trump would win the election. 2. She said that if the Democrats ever get back into power they will open the border and try to let 10-20 million refugees flood into the country and get them all made legal so they can vote, and the GOP will not win another election for 2+ decades. Luckily, Trump will win again - and he will deport most of the illegals.

Trump gave tax cuts that stimulated the economy and worked !! Trump was told of the downsides to try and move the troops out quickly, so he commenced the negotiations with the Taliban. Once Biden was elected he threw out Trump's negotiated deal and the Taliban retaliated and started to take over because they knew Biden would not do anything about it (unlike Trump who destroyed ISIS). Then Biden tried to get them out quickly, and ignored the military's advice not to do that. The deaths and destruction that happened are all on Biden - and Harris who was in the room and admits agreeing to Biden's dementia affected plan. Although a lot of Americans died, there were a lot more Afghanistan people who were killed as collaborators - have you not seen the video of the last USA plane leaving with people running along side desperately pleading to be taken with them. Never again will USA troops in any country overseas gain the trust and support of the local people - they all know what Biden did and that it could happen again - one of the worst acts by a POTUS in the history of USA politics. Did the MSM attack Biden over that? Not a chance - page 3 at best then all forgotten - same as the assassination attempts on Trump. Despicable. BOMBSHELL REPORT: Biden Admin Left 9K Americans in Afghanistan, Originally Claimed 150 - Articles - James E Risch, U.S. Senator for Idaho (senate.gov)

I saw this and laughed so much - thought I would share it - brilliant.

Excellent point - just who is running the country?? Biden is mentally unfit for the role and has been for several years. Harris is unfit mentally for non-dementia reasons - she is just another Biden DEI hire. So who has been making all the decisions??? When Trump takes Office he is going to find out, and if Obama and anyone else has been involved in making decisions the POTUS can only make, he will be arrested and charged - happy days.

Very true. And if you ever wonder whether Hitler and Stalin and Mao were left wing - that is the proof they were (despite the re-writing of history). It is atypical of left wing totalitarian States to shut down and destroy anything and anyone that dis=agrees with their positions. Much like the woke liberals of today with their cancel culture mentality.

Ditto. Ooops I just did 🤣

At last. I hear you and can understand most of what you are saying, and I do agree with some of your points. You have made a very good summary of what the issues are with regards to Trump as a person (flawed) and how divided politics currently is in the USA. However, before I go into a few things in response - and like you I dont want just to throw abuse back and forth - there is a view on things that you may not have considered enough. When someone is clearly in one side of the political divide, it is very hard for them to truly see the errors and inconstancies and the faults of that side they have chosen - but they can see every single flaw and fault of the other side. In that position it is very hard for a person to reconcile their own formed views against any factual situation that challenges that view - it is called cognitive bias. According to Google, 'Cognitive bias is a systematic thought process caused by the tendency of the human brain to simplify information processing through a filter of personal experience and preferences. The filtering process is a coping mechanism that enables the brain to prioritize and process large amounts of information quickly.' And that is as viable an explanation as I can find - and I am certainly not immune from it either. However, although not immune, I can see the arguments about Trump and his personality 'disorder' and his growing mental slow down - absolutely. But aside from the mental slowdown part, that 'personality disorder' is extremely common in hyper successful men - Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison etc etc etc. They all have a personality disorder as such, and they all have a very strong ego and self belief - those traits are absolutely necessary to become what they have become - it is genetic - you can 'grow it'. I know that makes Trump very 'unappealing' to many people - but if I was to say to you that Obama was not the smooth sweet lovely man that he portrayed himself to be - would you accept and understand that he is a diplomatic politician and he has the social skills to perform that act brilliantly - and that was why he was selected over Hillary, who is far less 'convincing'. I have met many politicians and the top dogs are those that have the ability to stab you in the back while smiling to your face - the King of them being Bill Clinton. Trump is not a good experienced and seasoned politician at all - but I accept that (and all his flaws) because he has IMO the right policies compared to the Dems (as I listed before). He is by far the better option to have as POTUS in the current world situation - especially with the situations developing in Europe and Russia. The USA is being presented witrh the choice between 2 very personally flawed people, but I am certain that if Trump is elected and becomes the POTUS again, he will achieve a good outcome for USA and the World. Hopefully that will happen and people like yourself who can see/hear the 'other side' will then accept that he did a good job and that they were wrong. I also thought Bill Clinton was a charlatan, and to some extent he was/is, but he achieved a lot of good things. Impeaching him for being caught being 'naughty' with a female intern was one of the biggest mistakes the GOP has ever made - it was what IMO started the divide in USA politics. The inevitable hatred that has flowed from then, made into an artform by the Dems and stupidly ignored by the GOP, is not a good thing and it aint over yet. One more term for Trump in a landslide win is the answer IMO - because I think he will bridge the divide - after he has destroyed what Biden/Harris have done. That will happen I hope, and unlike after 2016 when they protested and attacked Trump for denying Hillary's turn, the Dems in power will be forced to go back to the middle ground and dump all the lunatic left wing woke policies that are not what the USA is about.

Indeed - and that is why all I am getting (save a few thoughts and some good funny lines) is personal abuse and insults. They have no 'argument' - because it is all personal. Years ago when Maggie Thatcher's funeral march was under way, left wing nutters were yelling abuse and throwing stuff at her cavalcade - they are always far too personal and will even 'invade' a funeral to express their personal hatred - they did the same at Reagan's - awful people. IMO it comes from emotional immaturity and the associated lack of rational thinking - like spoilt children who dont care about others - they only want they want - they refuse to see anyone else's point of view, let alone even countenance that another view is acceptable.

I dont read the WAPO much - Fake News and truly one of the Dems MSM PR outlets. Mate - just read this below from your link aloud - surely you can see is is totally biased:- Trump made about six false or misleading claims a day in his first year as president, 16 a day in his second year, 22 a day in his third year — and 39 a day in his final year. Put another way, it took Trump 27 months to reach 10,000 false or misleading claims and another 14 months to reach 20,000. He then exceeded the 30,000 mark less than five months later.

Not bad - being paid by the word was good. Trump and all the other 'right wing' political Leaders, like in Argentina and in more and more European countries (is Macron gone yet?) , are good for the World overall. I love Trump because he stands for what I agree with and is willing to fight for MAGA - and he is willing to dodge a bullet to do it too.

No - just looking for a rational debate - cant find much though. Care to share some thoughts??

Such hatred and petty silliness - and so little substance. Trump wanted to become POTUS to 'save' USA - he initially wanted to be a Democrat nominee but it was clear that they were gone left - and their selection policies and methods mean that the Party leaders decide who it is - not the Dems voters - and it always amazes me that Dem voters fail to see that. Even when they all voted for Biden - he was just thrown away and Harris was 'anointed'. And lets not talk about how Clinton was given the nod when it was very clear that more Dem Party members wanted Sanders as the nominee. That is why Trump went over to the GOP side - more of their policies matched his own beliefs, and their selection policy and method for the nominee is totally decided by the GOP Party members. Yes many existing powerbrokers in the GOP did not (and do not) like Trump in 2016 - but they had no choice because the GOP Party members wanted him as the nominee - same this time around too.

I showed you one CNN story about Trump's accomplishments and that was easy. You are not looking for the truth and are still a Dems sheep. Sorry if my logic and facts annoy you - not.

Breaking for late lunch - and some footy.

Mine told me that too - and mine was better than yours - so there - LOL Call me a 'trumpette' and you lose mate - try better.

At last - another rational point of view. Yes they are both not the brightest and best - and both are 'flawed'. But with only two to choose from - it is very clear to me Trump wins person on person. But when it comes to Dems Vs GOP - the GOP wins by the proverbial country mile.

'something real' ROFLOLO You mean Trump's 'PR stuff is false but the Dems/Harris PR is all true?? Or do you mean something from CNN ??? OK then - how about this?? New YorkCNN — Jamie Dimon has a warning for Democrats: Don’t dismiss Trump supporters as people who are exclusively attracted to his personality. Former President Donald Trump was right about some critical issues, the JPMorgan CEO says. “I wish the Democrats would think a little more carefully when they talk about MAGA,” Dimon told CNBC on Wednesday from the World Economic Forum in Davos. Dimon, who has clashed with Trump in the past and previously described himself as “barely a Democrat,” said that people are “basically scape-goating” Trump supporters. He said Democrats use the “MAGA” label to accuse Trump supporters of being like the former president instead of listening to their underlying concerns. “I don’t think they are voting for Trump because of his family values,” Dimon said. “Just take a step back and be honest: He was kind of right about NATO. He was kind of right about immigration. He grew the economy quite well. Tax reform worked.” Dimon went on to say Trump was also right about some his criticism of China. Jamie Dimon: Trump was right about key issues and bashing MAGA will hurt Biden | CNN Business KABOOM

Wow - unbelievable - you really hate the guy dont you?? Maybe you should just stay away from these posts - your blood pressure might be taking a hit me thinks.

It is amazing what one can buy on Lazada - and with COD you have little risk. Enjoy the beer mate - Corona or maybe Stalla Artois or is it a Guinness?? I have not had a Guinness in years - doubt I will find some up here in Isan - cant find Benedictine - been looking for over a year - next visit to Sister in Bangkok I guess.

I was going to cut and paste them all, but the list is so long it would crash the server - take a look see:- Trump Administration Accomplishments – The White House (archives.gov) Next.

Cheers mate - have a beer on me mate.

Yes indeed - he makes regualr comments about how idiotic the Dems policies are. Now he also often talks about how Harris refuses to have an unbiased debate with him. he went in front of biased left wing moderators twice - once with Biden and now once with Harris. Why wont Harris accept Trump's request to debate on Fox or any other right wing media outlet?? Actually I will answer that for you - by quoting Harris' answer to "what are you actually going to do to reduce inflation. what exact things are you going to do?" Answer - "I came from a middle class family ............. bla bla bla ....... word salad." Trump has stated exactly what he is going to do - check out the link I gave - just to start - bring back oil production on a massive scale, remove climate penalties and cancel greenie initiatives". Just for starters right there will make a huge difference because when Biden/Harris stopped oil production and imposed all the 'save the planet' taxes, they caused massive inflation.

Like I said - winner winner chicken dinner - they have a mental block problem that is unrecognised and therefore all they can do it throw personal insults and abuse. Where is the intelligent and articulate argument??

I know you are not - about anything - but that is OK as Oscar said. An artist you are indeed.

He did. When it went to the Supreme Court and he won, it was clear doing what he wanted to do would cause more harm than good - so he backed down and did not completely shut it down. In that sense he 'saved' it - maybe next time he will listen to those who said 'shut it all down anyway'.