TroubleandGrumpy

Gotta agree with that - unblocked and ready for a laugh - probably wont take long 😁

In Baht? Or in GPB after being converted/exchanged and fees applied.

I am never happy to hear about the death of a person - but for OJ I make a rare exception and I hope he was in a lot of pain. In my life I have taken the view that it does not really matter whether you believe in God or not - but that it is better to live as a good person in the hope that there is a Heaven, rather than living as a bad person abd be in hope there is no Hell. I sure hope there is a Hell, because if there is, OJ is there.

Exactly correct - most hotels do not want to have to lodge an online report - nothing in it for them. But obviously some Expats here demand they do that by immediately handing over their Passport. Just wait - maybe they wont ask - if they dont ask that means they dont want it and they dont want to have to do an online report.

Over the last year or so we have stayed in many hotels - only one hotel asked - and they backed off and all was good. You clearly like telling everyone else what to do - stickler for the rules or something? And I am grumpy ! She is trouble !!

Not sure how that makes it difficult for others - I did offer my Licence/s and to show a copy of Resident's Certificate on phone - they wanted Passport only. Khrapp hotel anyway - we wont be staying there again.

Arrest and Deport - then mnaybe numpties from overseas will realise the downsides of being an animal in Thailand.

Good luck mate - those of us who have had the experience of dealing with Immigration know that they are best avoided at any cost.

We book everything in the wife's name and she checks in - I hang back at car etc. Only one problem hotel who wanted passport - but I smiled and said no hab forgot. They kept asking and said to the wife about Immigration coming and them gettinmg into trouble if they see me. Wife said tell them he left it behind - all sorted - my fault. They backed down and every day after that it was all smiles each day. No need or benefit to me or them - only possible downside if next 90 days is rejected for not 'reporting' properly or something - probably not happen, but why risk it. We have been doing that since last year - all booking accounts and bank accounts used are in Wife's name - no official records of me being there. If I must show Passport to an Immigration Officer then I will suddenly find the Pasport - but I am not showing it to the lovely numpties in the hotels thanks.

I see egoboy has not responded to any of our comments and posts this week - not complaining 🙂 Interesting post egoboy made today in another thread that clearly IMO precludes his inputs into any OAP forum. He was slagging off about baby boomers and how we will not embrace bitcoin and other cryptocurreny investments - claiming that he of course is killing it (( have met a few of those type of barflies). But the point is that the 'are soul' is not even on the OAP - because you have to be a baby boomer (1946 to early 1960s) and at least 67 to get the OAP - which means 1956 or older - which is right in the middle of the baby boomers. I have blocked the are soul.

I am so glad to hear you are fine - but I was referring to the expectation that the TRD will expect your tax return every year going forward.

Thanks - any links to the Immigration Office (to show someone).

The oldies are the best - tried and proven.

If anyone think that the TRD requires, demands and enforces that all single Thailand tax residents who earn 60K Baht per year (or more), complete and lodge a tax return, then IMO they are very much mistaken. It is obvious they do not - despite what some well meaning Expats say. There would not be many Expats who do not remit into Thailand over 60K Baht each year, and I am very worried that many Expats are going to get a TIN from TRD and then lodge a tax return (and be locked into doing that yearly for life here), because they think that is required by the TRD and the Law - based on what people on this forum/thread have said and think. Or what some tax consultants have said, because they want your business every year. IMO Expats only have to lodge a tax return, if they are required to pay income taxes - after doing their self-determination (or paying someone to do it), and calculating how much tax they should pay. Unlike in the West, where you lodge a tax return and the Tax Office determines what taxes you pay (or get refunded), in Thailand you calculate it yourself and pay it yourself when lodging the return. Check it out. IMO if you have enough deductions, allowances and tax benefits, to not be required to pay income taxes, then you do not need to lodge a tax return. IMO that also applies if your home country DTA precludes you paying taxes in Thailand. For some reason, some people think you have to prove that - I do not. Many reason for my opinion on that - main one being that 40+ million Thais would be getting chased by the TRD for their tax returns. Perhaps many Expats do not realise that only about 10 million Thais lodge personal income tax returns - and yet they all earn well over 60K Baht per year. However, having said that, if an Expat remits income money into Thailand and should pay income taxes, then I strongly advise them to lodge a tax return and do that (go see a specialist). The penalties in Thailand for deliberate tax avoidance can be extreme (compared to the west), and that includes having Passport held until all fines and penalties are paid - including 1.5% per month penalty on any backdated taxes deemed due - and of course eventual deportation. IMO the TRD is best avoided by all Expats unless absolutely necessary - there are so many provisions and powers that they have which most Expats will have no clue about. Example - Somchai in the local TRD can 'calculate' what income taxes are due, based upon an Expat's lifestyle (house, car, bank account) - many things like that are totally arbitrary with TRD - avoid at all costs is my advice. I have my tax strategy worked out and I do not have to pay any income taxes in Thailand, even though I will have remitted money into the country. The vast majority of my remittances is not income, and most of the rest is 'covered' due to deductions, allowances and tax benefits, and a small amount comes under the DTA provisions. If/when TRD ever asks me in the future to justify my self-assessment decisions, I will have full records and calculations available. Some Expats are deciding to leave before that happens - and I cannot criticise them - being married to a Thai gives me big additional benefits, deductions and tax benefits. If I was single I would certainly have everything in place for a quick exit stage left in Jan-March 2025 - probably then will be the time when it will become clear what the TRD is going to do with Expats. Over and Out.

Agree with that - there are far too many unknowns to state with absolute certainty anything definitive. But to claim that the OAP is definitely going to be taxed in Thailand and/or that all OAP recipients must lodge a tax return, is total BS. One swallow does not a summer make - nor does one Clause in a DTA mean tax is payable.

You mean - how will it work in UK if they adopt the full Australian system? Boats are interceptred and passengers arrested and taken to off-shore processing. Their 'rights' under UN convention are on hold pending assesment of their claims - they also have reduced rights of appeal etc. Takes many years to be processed and even if determined to be a refuge they can be sent to another 'safe' country. Reduces the benefit for illegal immigrants to pay people smugglars - and reduces deaths lost at sea when boats collapse.

Off shore processing worked in Australia - reduced the number of illegal immigrants a lot. Current lefwing mobin Govt are looking to pull the rules back, but they realise it would be political suicide in Australia to allow unfetted illegal immigration. The right wing PM Hoaward won few elections in the past, mainly based on this subject - 'stopping the boats'.

That says a lot and we Expats know what that means. After 3 visits by the PM himself, a basic thing has been implented correctly (so far). Will this apply to any/all other systems introduced in Thailand - NO - because the PM did not sack the management responsibile for the screw up. Only then will people in management in this country realise they are accountable for things screwing up - and only then will they try harder (at all) to make sure they dont screw up. The PM has no choice because that is the culture - but until things change in that regards evcerything will remain the same. Has the management of the yellow line been acked for all the problems - NO.

Will they look into how this happenned and what needs to change so it never happens agaib - nuh. They will performa token invstigation and maybe fine a few people - but 'the system' that allows this happen will not change.

Seriously?? I wonder why I bother talking to the 'less informed' on this forum. You have to have an FCD Account - read and get informed mate. Foreign Currency Deposit Account (bangkokbank.com)

That is funny - sanctimonious and hilarious - thanks for the early morning laugh. Many years ago a bloke said the biggest problem in the West was that we were over-educting our idiots. Me thinks you fit into that group mate.

Good point - but. If you drive a lot on the many excellent highways in Thailand all across the country like I do, then you will understand. They will sit in that right hand lane (even if it is the 3rd lane) and refuse to move for any reason. Even though the rules are clear - keep left unless overtaking - they refuse to move over - and there is a lot of them - people get angry and annoyed ands do stupid things. When I was a much younger man I would too - not anymore.

Yes mate - I am one of the many who was wrong about the Junta - they never went this far and did things like this current mob are doing.

I do sympathise with them a bit - but they always go way too far. Perhaps he has had some very bad personal experiences, or perhaps he has become far too invested in this gay rights BS for other reasons. Either way we never know - but we dont have to listen to them on a forum. Their self-cventred mentality and lack of logic and rational thought is clearly evidenced by those climate change nutters that deface a work of art, or block people getting to work and ambulances. They are a problem and in this society (the west) we have suffered them far too long.

There is many more than two - several of them DM me. Take a look at the first lot of pages before Mike started to write the Guide - there were members who were very active who are no longer very active. I cannot say who and why because that is in breach of their trust and asgainst the rules of this forum.