TroubleandGrumpy

I do sympathise with them a bit - but they always go way too far. Perhaps he has had some very bad personal experiences, or perhaps he has become far too invested in this gay rights BS for other reasons. Either way we never know - but we dont have to listen to them on a forum. Their self-cventred mentality and lack of logic and rational thought is clearly evidenced by those climate change nutters that deface a work of art, or block people getting to work and ambulances. They are a problem and in this society (the west) we have suffered them far too long.

There is many more than two - several of them DM me. Take a look at the first lot of pages before Mike started to write the Guide - there were members who were very active who are no longer very active. I cannot say who and why because that is in breach of their trust and asgainst the rules of this forum.

'Disruptions' - this is a public forum for people to read and debate things. If/When I see something that is IMO wrong or vague, I will call it out and give my opinion (and defend that opinion). Just to show that I only respond to words and statements that IMO are wrong, and there are not a lot of them in the total context, this statement below by Mike (just like most of the guide) drew no response from me - because IMO everything stated in it is correct. Mike takes any negative criticism of words used in his Guide very personally - that is not IMO the way to discuss things that are always contentious - taxation like religion and politics, is one of them. Perhaps I should tone it down a little though - so I will going forward if that makes things easier to swallow.

Thanks for the support - appreciated. I just cannot understand how anyone claiming to be an expert can read PWC's statement that they quoted "All persons liable to tax are required to file a tax return" and not realise that statement is patently incorrect in Thailand.

Sounds to me that my comment hit home and is true - 70/80% of Thais do not have a TIN and do not lodge a tax return to prove they dont have to pay income taxes. You seem to want all Expats who are tax residents to get a TIN and lodge a tax return. Dont apologise - I dont care you have blocked me (or removed my emoji response) my 'target' has always been to provide my opinions to everyone reading - not to 'behave' and not disagree with someone who makes incorrect statements, refuses to listen to alternative views, and demands everyone agree with them or go away. My personal situation means I do not have to pay income taxes in Thailand - I am not arguing against some things you and others say for myself - just like I am not arguing with the guy that states that Expats receiving the Australian Age Pension in Australia have to pay income taxes for myself.

Thanks - I am about to get 3 units for a new house.

Wishing such things on me and my family and frienbds - what an atrocious person you are - clearly you are an example of why the majority of people (gays included) dislike and distrust virtue singalling nutter activists. Go away - blocked.

True - cannot argue with that sentiment. But I can assure you China needs our exports a lot more then we need their imports. Even with all the extremely negative and provocative statements made by the previous Federal Govt, China merely slapped us a little bit. Remember, India is closer and things there are extremely cheap - not as cheap as Chine but way cheaper than making it at home - we have alternatives, China really does not have an easy alternative to most of what we export to them - Iron Ore, Petroleum and Minerals.

I like the comment one bloke made a while ago that if he stays 179 days in Thailand and less than the specified days in another 1-2 countries, then he is not a tax resident of any country and he is not required to pay taxes in any country. Likewise if he stays 180+ days in Thailand and 180+ days in Australia then he is a tax resident of both countries - who wins then? The fact is that it is not about one Clause or a few words here and there - it is about the total situation of each person and his/her situation with regards to every Clause and word. Example - another one just to be deliberatly proocative to you know who. Clause 18 states "........... shall be taxable ......" That word taxable does not mean every person receiving a Pension has to pay income taxes - it means 'taxable' it does not mean must pay income taxes. Another - if the Pension is only 'taxable' in one State and not 'taxable' in the other State, that could mean a tax resident in Thailand cannot be taxed in Australia, if that domile requirement starts and they try to tax the Pension in Australia of those not living full-time in Australia. There are lots of potential interetations just of the words meaning, and then there are lots more interpretations possible for each persons situation. Egoboy has also ignored my point about another meaning of the word 'resident' in addition to your points. Anyone who receives the Austratlian pension, both in Australia or overseas, is a resident. If an OAP receiver is living overseas they are a resident who has had 'portability' approved - unlike other countries where being 'resident' is not a requirement to be approved to receive the pension. Technicality yes - but that is how laws, rules ansd regulations work - I have been involved in their creation, amendment and interpretation - Egoboy clearly has not or he would know laws, rules and regulations are constantly being changed and updated because of ever changing circumstances and changing interpetation.

That is NOT in the TRD Revenue Code or Guide - that is a claim made by a company that is paid to complete and file tax returns. Your claim is correct, if and only if, the TRD has officially stated that anyone who is a tax resident must file a tax return. IMO a person that has assesed themselves to not be 'required' to pay any income tax, is not required to lodge a tax return in Thailand (same as in Australia). If an Expat is a tax resident thjey are 'liable' to pay income taxes, whjich means they are required to go through the self-assesmnet process (or hire a tax agent/accountant to do that). But IMO if that Expat is assessed to be not 'required' to pay income taxes, then they do not have to lodge a tax return. The operative words being 'liable', 'required to after assesment' and 'not have to' - you can if you want - up to you. But an Expat will need to apply for and get a TIN from TRD to be able to lodge a tax return - 70/80% of Thais do not have a TIN and do not lodge a tax return to prove they dont have to pay income taxes. You seem to want all Expats who are tax residents to get a TIN and lodge a tax return.

Yes indeed mate - those charities are all about making money for those working in them. I remember decades ago a review was done of several big charities In Aust and they were taking on average almost 70% of their funds to pay their staff. I remember one CEO was being paid almost $1 million a year and when questioned she justified based on the number of staff being managed and the annual turnover.

Behave yourselves everyone - this attack on Farangs by Thais with a grudge and a phone camera is not gonna stop anytime soon.

What is really really sad is that Enoch Powell told everyone what was going to happen with unfetted immigration of people not 'suitable' or 'capable' of living in a modern democracy where there is a differentiation between the State and the Church - it just took a lot longer than he thought it would to become a serious problem.

Then stop stating it as a fact Mike - there is nothing I found in the Revenue Code or guidlines that states you must file a tax return even if you have no tax payable. In fact my read is that you only file a tax return when you have income taxes to pay.

I will respond to you for 2 reasons. 1. Because I have debunked you several times, but you deserve more 'kicking' - and you have at last givcen some reational behind your opinion. 2. Because some Aussies getting the OAP will read your comments and think they must pay income taxes on their Pension. Here is just one of the posts I provided in response to your rubbish before - go look up the rest of my posts where you have been debunked as an alarmist and fear mongerer. The Ministerial Correspondence Team for the ATO do not provide rulings or advice - they have absolutely no authority to do so and I know because I worked in a Ministerial Correspondence Team (Telco related). There is NIL official ruling from ATO that the OAP is taxable in Thailand for a tax resident - that is an interpretation of one Clause by some 'technical officer' and IMO it could easily just be a fake statement - it certainly does not look like any Ministyerial SAadvice letter I have evber seen before. And as far as I could find there has been NIL official determination by the TRD that the Australian OAP is taxable income in Thailand under the DTA. If you can find either of those - not opinions from forums or comunity groups - then and only then will I re-consider. But eher is somewthing for you to thiunk about - if TRD was to give an opinion, I gurantee even if it was they consider it taxcable income, they will caveat that it all depends on individual cirstances - many of whihc are covered under other Clauses in the DTA and in the TRD Guidelines and in the Taxation Act itself. As I said before, it is not a matter of one Clause and that is it. There are many other factors that are involved in a decision regarding taxable income and taxability of a person - as I have detailed many times before. What happens when someone is a tax resident of Thailand and is still a tax resident of Australia? What happens if they are taxable residents of two States? What happens if they are domicile in another State. To use the informal views of someone not authorised in Australia to decide how the TRD sees things, is total khrapp and illogical - you are clearly unaware of how the Law and the management of the collection of taxes is conducted in Thailand. If/when Thailand TRD makes a determination about taxing the Pensions of any Expats, then and only then will we know where they are coming from - but even then, that is challengeable in Tribunal and Court. The Thaialnd tax system is self-assesment - I have elaborated on this many times - and if you assess that you do not have to pay any income taxes and those reasons are valid, then that is it. The TRD can later question that assesment - but as long as you have the documentation and valid reasons why you made that assesment, then IMO you are fine. Stop being a fear monger and I sure hope people do not listen to you. Oooo effin rooo to yourself mate.

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Oh you poor virtue signaller - it must be so bad being inside that victimhood head of yours - the inhumanity of it all 🙂 So you have been in a 'relationship' with a gay - well I do bow to your 'understanding' of your and your partner's feelings of victimhood. But I do not bow to you speaking on behalf of all gays - the majority of who just want to be left along to live in peace, and who do not like the activism that has sprung up in their name claiming victimhood and outrage on their behalf.

Coke No Sugar means they have used artifical sweeteners and natural sweeteners like corn sucrose. They all have the same effect - make the khrapp taste better and activate the body to 'jump into action' and store more fat. Sorry about that.

Yes indeed mate - they have the teenage girl mentality - never wrong despite obvious facts showing otherwise - they call that 'The Princess Bitchface Syndrome'. It involves a lot of things and is a recognised mentqal disorder with a clear pathology of cognitive bias. Most teenage girls ghroew up and out of it - but many dont - and many young men have been infected too (we'll do anything for a roo**) The Princess Bitchface Syndrome 2.0 by Michael Carr-Gregg - Penguin Books Australia

Read my posts - obviously you have not out of spite anger or whatever. I have provided another alternative to those words, plus several additional reasons why an OAP is not taxable income.

Your an ignorant person who has no idea. I played golf most weeks for over 20 years with a gay guy - met his partner many times over dinner/beer, Both were good blokes - and he disliked the 'gay activists' a lot more than I do - and their views are very much what I am talking about and know a lot about. But people like yourself who see any comments from anyone that are not 'compliant' with the dogma being spewed out by the gay activists, label them as homophobic and thereby claim a win (virtue singalling). I dont care if you are gay or not - I care about what sort of person you are and I will agree or disagree with your opinions impartially and fairly.

You got a link? I dont want to waste my time looking for your khrapp posts. Knowing you will not do that and that I will not bother anyway, my response it obvious. You are wrong - the OAP is not taxable income in Thailand. If you were correct you would be able to respond to my posts in this thread and refute them. Because you cannot do that and because you have not even tried. IMO THE OAP IS NOT TAXABLE INCOME IN THAILAND (see my posts above for proof)

100% agree about the gyms - which are a huge part of the exercise scam - they are for young men and wanna be women. More walking is absolutely needed, but clearly that works only as long as you have a 'moderate diet'. There is no doubt about walking increasing metabolism etc. but at a minimum it will only work as long as the diet is also a good one. If you drank heaps of beer every day and ate nothing but Maccas and other take away, you will get fat even if you walked 10k a day. But walking a lot and eating well is the best thing for older blokes - we actually need some exercise and do better when we do it - women do not. Women 'carry' wieight far better than us - they are designed that way. Men do need a little exercise, but a good diet is far more important because we are not designed to carry too much excess weight. Most obese unhealthy men are over 100Kgs (like I was) - they are the target for my advice about changing their diet - walking/jogging 5-10ks a day while being 120kgs will probaby kill you - but eating far less khrap and lots of good stuff will make a huge difference. Congrats on making it to 70 - I only made it to mid/late 70s - when/if I get to 80 I start to focus again (life too short and I am weak 🙂).

Yes they do - and justyified. Whenever we are in a hotel we first clean the AC units (wash filter etc) and those that work best as Mitsubishi and Daiken consitantly. You say there are two Mitubishis - I assume that is 'Normal' and 'Heavy Duty'. Is there any known difference in quality durability etc.

Same same - we drive a lot and see extremely dangerous driving every time. And over 10 years I have never seen a police vehicle that is/has pulled someone over. They will setup a road block, and cause traffic mayhem, to check regos and licences (tea money?) - but they never actually patrol the roads pulling over the idiots/nutters. The thing I noticed in that video was something far more dangerous than the idiot/druggie in the SUV. The unladed truck that flew past down the inside lane and ended up going over the dividing barrier. That is extremly dangerous and I see it all the time in Thailand - using the inside lane to overtake at serious speed is very common on Thailand highways. As already posted, the reason for the accident was the a***hole in the commerical van/truck going too slow in the right lane and refusing to move over. They are everwhere in Thailand and IMO they cause a lot of these accidents. Sure Somechai the nutter/druggie should not be going so fast and try to make that gap, but it was Otherchai in the ute/van that caused the accident - and they are everywhere on the highways here.