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What was an acceptable time line for WW2?

Such things happen.

An interesting history but overall the political ideology of Zionism made sense. There should be one majority Jewish nation state where Jews are not the minority compared to Christians or Muslims. The Spanish Inquisition wasn't carried out by Muslims. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

It does go back a ways.

It didn't help that's for sure. He got Hitler to promise to exterminate.all the Jews in the middle east. I have an impression most Israel demonizers don't wish to know that history. They also don't want to hear about the Jewish Nakba in the greater Arab world.

The Arab world attacked as soon as the UN charter had passed. Had they not Israel might still be relatively tiny. Its still tiny compared to most countries. The Arabs weren't wrong to think they could crush Israel but alas Israel prevailed against all odds. The Arabs starting out so hostile set the stage for what followed to this day Things could have been much different indeed peaceful. I'm not saying only blame the Arab world. I am saying don't only blame Israel. Developing as a hard core military power was their only option to survive in that region.

I'll acknowledge that there are different narratives. Will you?

There are different factions in Palestinian leadership.

You clearly don't know the history of the establishment of the state of Israel.

Again Palestinians hold a range of views on the topic. Some are OK with Israel existing and some are not. Some want a two state solution and others want the entire area integrated into one state including Jews. Just as Israelis hold a range of views.

Stop conflating Jews with Israel. That's obnoxious. No group is a monolith. Palestinians have a range of opinions on the conflict just as Israelis do. Palestinians chanting River to the Sea clearly don't want Israel to exist in any borders. It's absurd that you pretend to speak for all Palestinians. Jews contains an uppercase J.

There is a deeply ingrained conflict but you wildly exaggerate.

Human nature is well on display with your inflammatory posts.

And yet the disease of antisemitism never goes away even in places with no Jews. The Jews are to blame for everything lyrics Whether it rains, whether it hails, whether it snows or whether there is lightning Whether it's dusk, whether it's thundering, whether it's freezing or whether you're sweating Whether it's beautiful, whether it's cloudy, whether it's thawing or whether it's pouring Whether it's drizzling, whether it's trickling, whether you're coughing, whether you're sneezing The Jews are to blame for everything The Jews are to blame for everything Why, why is it their fault? Child, you don't understand, it's your fault And she me too! It's your fault The Jews are, they are and are to blame for this And don't believe it, it's their fault The Jews are to blame for everything, everything Oh right!

Pot kettle black on steroids.

Calling Israel a Nazi state or headed to a Nazi state is completely unacceptable. Normal criticism is legit of course. The false Nazi slur stuff is indeed an antisemitic shock tactic.

Way way lower.

You guys? Collective responses? How much lower will you go?

I call BS. You played the Nazi card and you're busted. Own it.

Suggesting Israel is equivalent to Nazis is anti-semitic by definition. It's meant as a shameless attack specifically targeting Jews. You could just say fascist but no it has to be Nazis. Don't tell me about better off. I despise what you're doing here. I have no problem with criticism of Israel and I never have. I have a big problem with your Nazi equivalency game.

Russia definitely has a political problem with mass conscription. Go too big and the regime risks revolution. Now Russia is scamming Cubans to do non military stuff and hijacking them to the front. If they have no problem with conscription that wouldn't be happening. I expect North Koreans are next. It is true that Russia has a large population and general support for their genocidal war. But support to the point of wanting to serve is quite weak.

Doubling down on the inflammatory garbage you're selling.

I reject your point. Israel, the USA, Russia, Hungary, etc. may be headed towards or at fascism but there is no nation state headed towards Nazism. It's a classic and disgusting antisemitic trope to suggest an equivalence between Israel and Nazis. Hopefully you aren't fooling anyone with such perverted games.

Again Nazis are not the only flavor of fascism.

Maybe this will help. I look at a wide range of sources and I have concluded at this point that either side can win. Also that an outcome where neither side wins is a real possibility as well (but that would basically just give Russia time to prepare for a new wave).