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Here's where all of this becomes a sticky wicket. Nobody has said that VOIP numbers never work! It's just that it's an objective fact that they are often rejected. They may work at a specific bank for awhile and then they don't work. So saying your VOIP number is getting codes through proves nothing really. But here's the rub, The Phone2 outfit CLAIMS that have a different kind of VOIP that will be reliable. In other words work at every bank and keep working. So somebody joins and it works and thinks it's really good and maybe better than regular VOIP but then later it doesn't work the same issue as VOIP. I have no way of knowing whether their claim of "special" VOIP is even true now, much less a year from now when presumably banks are always fighting to counter anything new that might fool them.

This is a red herring. Jews aren't demanding non Kosher restaurants to make special Kosher meals for them. That's absurd. As said, Jews who are strictly Kosher make a lifestyle about it, and yes it's possible in Thailand but difficult and expensive. Chabad restaurants and ordering Chabad food to be shipped. Some Jews might ask for no pork, no shellfish, or even don't mix meat and dairy at a non-Kosher restaurant. They can ask. What's the big deal? There used to be a pizza place in Pattaya that catered to Israelis. I doubt it was strictly Kosher but I doubt they had ham and cheese pizzas either.

Go ahead and keep repeating the Putin (now also Trump) propaganda talking points.

Not actual elections.

If your remitted pension is not tax accessable in Thailand and that's your only income other than bank interest, then yes, you can bin the form. But do keep records about your pension and remittances in case of a future audit.

OK, that's good. But isn't Google Voice free? Like I said, I need CODES.

I don't agree. If it's just VOIP, it's not reliable for codes by definition. That includes google voice -- not reliable for codes.

Not great but I don't see anything there to be a deal killer.

Yeah, that's good but an app like this that is actually reliable for bank codes would be a big deal IF it actually works over time. The bank codes things is the exciting part. There is nothing new and exciting about regular VOIP which are NOT reliable for codes.

To be clear, I very much appreciate the more active feedback including skepticism including the seeming certainty from one member that it IS a scam. It may be a scam and sure I can see the red flags, but I don't know how anyone can be certain.

You didn't actually answer. Do they EXPLICITLY market that they have a different type of VOIP that does RELIABLY work for bank codes. By your answer, it's obvious that they probably don't,

Very possibly. But there is a certain volume and a certain specificity of the comments that gives credibility.

Very interesting for sure. But have you used this for USA bank codes? Do they explicitly market saying they have a DIFFERENT type of VOIP that does work for USA bank codes? Standard VOIP may work sometimes for some banks, etc. but is notoriously unreliable. If not a different kind of VOIP where they can make this claim about US bank codes, it may be cheaper but not the same value.

Sadly no. I don't have the link about it anymore. I recall issues with how Google Play store requires a payment method. The link had long steps on how to handle but it seemed too much for me to deal with and like I said the company is clear that country blocks should be respected. Given that they do have a web app that's for everywhere, if the web app works, then not really an issue anyway. The trusted reference I have in South America though is not in a blocked country.

I'm not in the U.S.

I looked into this. It's more complicated than that and the company recommends NOT to do it that way as well.

Here is their main marketing page (separate from the promotion link): www.phone2.io 💬1 - Phone2 | Business Phone Number - 4 users for $15/mo Can someone that has an Apple device try to download their Apple app? As said, the Android app is blocked for Thailand. But I'm curious if Apple is blocked as well. Without either the web app is the only option.

Here's where I disagree. On their FB ads they have a long list of very credible posts from potential and actual customers where there are credible sounding replies from the company. If there is negative information to a question, they openly and honestly answer those as well. I have received both AI bot and a personal email reply to queries. As I said before, I have a success reference from a US expat in South America that I have been very familiar with for several years and trust very much saying he bought it and both the phone service and the 2FA codes are working for him. I have followed his advice on other expat matters to my great satisfaction. I checked a scam finder website which rated it not a scam company. Of course they could go out of business. But if they do stay in business, even if the 2FA codes turn out to not be working, at least you would be getting a U.S. or Canadian phone number to use for voice calls. They also have a standard pricing plan in place which is about 18 a month. So a person could sign up for that, try it out, and if not satisfied cancel, but then if the limited offer expires and they do like, they would be out of luck. They also claim a money back guarantee for 30 days. So lets go over the risks if you pay the 99. They could go out of business very soon. Possible but unlikely. They could go out of business in a year or two. Higher possibility. They could go out of business in 10 years. Even higher but then you had the service cheap for 10 years. The 2FA codes don't ever work. Try to get a refund. Maybe you do get it, maybe you don't. The 2FA codes stop working at a later date. I would rate that risk quite high unfortunately. But again, for people that find value in just the phone number only, not so horrible even of the 2FAs stop working.

I'm frankly surprised that there hasn't been much of a response to this topic. Getting 2FA codes requiring a US phone number usually on an actual phone (as opposed to VOIP numbers which are very often rejected) has been one of the most notoriously difficult issues for expats. IF (a BIG if) Phone2 offers a real long term solution to that via an app for a lifetime fee of 99 (limited time promotion) it seems to me this would be a very big deal for countless expats. To be clear, I am NOT shilling for this company. I have very serious doubts about it. But at the very least it seems worthy of consideration and I do want to encourage people to look at their website information and comment about it.

Vladimir Vladimirovich thanks you.

Edged out Tucker Carlson!

So Thailand will pivot even more than before to CHINA (and permanently).

How to lose ALL your friends and disgust people.

I don't want people to miss that the 99 dollar offer is a LIMITED TIME one which might end at any time. Or it's just a scam marketing tool like an endless going out of business sale. I have no way of knowing. But if it is a good solution, 99 for "life" is so much better than about 200 every year.

Do you have any idea what's happening in the Russian economy?