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Many westerners see white Russians and incorrectly think they have European values. They do not. An example is during WW2 when defeated Germans rushed to the west to be prisoners of the west instead of being prisoners of Russia (which meant indefinite gulag slavery and likely death).

Putin doesn't see Ukraine as a sovereign nation separate from Russia. His genocidal aim is to wipe out Ukrainian language, culture, and church and to murder all Ukrainians that do not accept being Russified but it's also OK for him if they flood Europe and destabilize it with a refugee crisis that they can't handle. Remaining Russified Ukrainians are good for slave cannon fodder for future imperial ambitions beyond Ukraine. Putin isn't crazy, but he is evil.

Absurd. Russia has been forced to sell at huge discounts.

Gun control now!

Kremlin propaganda.

What's pathetic is that you actually believe that narrative.

Trump wasn't too bad in his prime either. Not my type though.

And Trump is such a moron that he will brag about it.

Bizarre topic. She did have a totally public relationship with Willie Brown though. Brown was technically married at the time but long separated. Age gap? Sure. So what?

Exactly. Anyone with a brain knew that before but Trump had refused to describe the solution preferring to be mysterious and excite fans magical thinking of him as God figure. Vance I think stupidly spelled it out. Remember when republicans weren't surrender monkeys? I see that not even the Putin fans here have bothered to suggest that the Vance "peace plan" is anything other than a massive victory for Russia with NOTHING for Ukraine in return.

Well it's not news that we have both Trump type cultists here and also some full blown Z people from Putinlandia.

The "peace plan" that Vance describes is absolutely a win for Russia. So yes Trump does want Russia to win. DISGUSTING but true.

To be clear. I am not predicting the war outcome. I am saying I want Ukraine to win and I'm also saying that it's possible for Ukraine to win. The US election is a big deal here and also continued western support without constraints. Unfortunately, there is bad news on that front -- Germany. But the balancing good news is that Ukraine is building their own strong internal weapons building machine so if Trump loses and Ukraine can make it to the winter, things could be very different in the spring.

Soon. Very soon. The rationale and it's a good one is IRAN.

Total lies. Zelinsky decided to stay himself. I get you know. Trumpist propaganda. You said you're not happy to see Russia win. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.

Illegal vote not recognized internationally. Don't even bother suggesting it was anything else.

There are other reasons for Ukraine to take Russian lands. Increase their missile range. Try to bait Russia out from Ukraine front lines (didn't work unfortunately). Refusing to play the game of a conventional attritional war which they can't win, but they can win in other ways. Something that is working. Bring the war back home to Russia. Russians are starting to realize Putin isn't the winner he portrays himself as. The economy is suffering greatly. The Russian people aren't likely to storm the Kremlin, but it becomes more and more likely that powerful Russians will throw him out a window.

Donbass is Ukraine. You're free to spread your Putin Z fascist propaganda here or anywhere you like though.

Again, it's not over. Putin was going to take Kyiv in two days. I have nothing really to say to people like you spreading such blatant misinformation. I don't understand your motivation to do that either.

I am not talking about the US military being involved.

Bizarre post. I started the thread.

There's always some jokers on the internets.

I'd rather not but that's very true. What a disaster that would be.

No, it's not over. It's looking like Ukraine is getting permission to use long range missiles within Russia soon.

So you're talking more like eight years from now. Good luck. I would welcome a more normal republican party but I think it's going to be harder than you think to de-maga-ize. It's bigger than Trump.