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Who said you can't go there? You're making that up. This is a viral song that just so happens to have more going on than is apparent on the surface and some of it is UGLY. People aren't "upset" about a song per se but the way it is being used and by the right wing now is already obnoxious and I think it's just the beginning. I don't think he mentioned welfare ladies. You might be remembering the classic republican dog whistles about black welfare queens. Oliver is talking about obese younger men and I think it's obvious he's talking to white men. His lyrics indicate a very weak understanding of the nutrition problem in economically depressed rural areas which are basically fresh and healthy food deserts and junk food is the only way poor people (on welfare or not) can realistically fill their stomachs.

Stop that punching down, Oliver. Ironically it's going to be impossible for Oliver not to get rich from this even if he resists. Rich Men North of Richmond punches down. No surprise the right wing loves it | Music | The Guardian

Similar response idea without the weird right wing conspiracy theory crapola in the viral song. Inspired by Woody Guthrie. Yes the viral song is great as a song but it's so incredibly misguided and divisive in its lyrics.

As I suspected the singer is infected with the Qanon conspiracy theory cult. https://www.npr.org/2023/08/24/1195566500/rich-men-north-richmond-republican-primary-debate The first Republican primary debate opened up with a nod to a breakout country song, "Rich Men North of Richmond," that has achieved the unusual feat of topping the Billboard 100 chart almost overnight. The song, which is being hailed by some as a kind of "hillbilly elegy" for the working class, comes from a previously unknown singer who goes by the name Oliver Anthony. It rails against the hardship of taxation, but also against people on welfare — and it also nods to a conspiracy theory that has become a mainstay of the far right.

Of course it does if you know anything about history and what Richmond was. Also he could be talking about the Northeast in general or even a coded dog whistle to you know what.

Mention of this song made its way into the republican debate today. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/23/gop-debate-ron-desantis-00112626

Yeah may as well have a bot post such canned stuff.

I probably would say Christian fundamentalists mostly if I wanted to talk about such people. Or you could say fundie. I associate the American ones with far right wing politics as most supported trump (which is kind of silly when you look at that man's behavior) but of course not all of them are.

Tired old conspiracy theory. Anything original?

In actual modern usage, the term Jesus freaks is out of fashion and is rarely used in a derogatory way or any way as it's rarely used PERIOD. It's incredibly passe and dated. I find this entire Jesus freak discussion an absurd irrelevant diversion from the actual topic. The cold blooded murder of a fine upstanding woman by a perverted homophobe. But typical for this forum to go off in ridiculous tangents. BTW -- the much more common terms to describe fundamentalist Christian religious fanatics are bible-thumpers and God botherers. Bible-thumper Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster God-botherer definition in American English | Collins English Dictionary (collinsdictionary.com)

I am sure San Francisco's NEIGHBORHOODS are still great. Yes, Market Street has become tragic.

Probably about the 25 mini wheats. More often I do 5 tablespoons if puffed rice or quinoa in which case I don’t count the grains.

I vary the fruit. Not often melon. Always banana but sometimes blueberries, apple, mango, or papaya.

1/2 cup no sugar mixed grain muesli 25 pieces no sugar mini shredded wheats Tablespoon pumpkin seeds 5 Almonds 1 Brazil nut Sliced cantaloupe Sliced one banana In a mix of plain yogurt and cold water Mug of black coffee

This is I think a brilliant analysis of the phenomenon of this song. Incoherent populism. Even of you don't agree with the article it provides lots of food for thought about issues raised by the song. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/08/oliver-anthony-and-the-incoherence-of-right-wing-populism.html Over the weekend, an obscure Virginia country singer became a conservative folk hero and progressive hate object. Oliver Anthony’s overnight transformation into the bard of red America has already attracted a great deal of commentary, some of it worthwhile, much of it not.

You can probably come in with a printed list of all your medications and dosages with a note to the effect of what you want to say and any cheap clinic might sign and stamp it. Will customs accept that? I don't know. Technically they want scrip bottles with your name on it.

There is an irony about this song. IF he had deleted all the weird stuff (pedo island, trashing obese "welfare cheats", civil war glorification) would it have still been such a massive viral sensation? After all it is a good song as a song, and lots of authentic emotion, even without the weird stuff. Maybe but not nearly as much as the song is mostly being pushed by right wingers.

Listen more times. They are obvious.

Yes, Richmond, Virginia served as the capital of the Confederate States of America. TRAITORS! Funny song. He's whining about REBEL statues going down as if rebel statues have anything at all to do with American patriotism.

Instead of irrationally bashing obese people, slipping in far right wing Q conspiracy theories, and stealthily inciting a new civil war, how about some actually UNIFYING pro worker folk songs? The USA is more divided than it's been since the civil war. Oliver Anthony's viral song is not helping.

Go ahead. See what it does for that weakling. Or another all hat no cattle trumpublican. How must it feel to be a cuck to the likes of extremist lunatic Marjorie Taylor Greene?

If you haven't seen it yet, you will, so you may as well get it over with. It's very understandable that it's gone so viral. It's a catchy tune, the singer clearly has very authentic deep emotion coming from his difficult life experiences, and it certainly has a message. But what is that message exactly? Remember when songs celebrating the exploited poor came from the left, were pro union, and didn't attack other segments of poor Americans? This one is clearly different. Rich men north of Richmond? (Virginia.) Huh? Civil war redux or what? Shades of Q pizzagate conspiracy theories / Jeffrey Epstein with it's reference of minors on an inland. Attacking obese people on welfare?!? That's probably the weirdest thing here. The singer comes from Apalachia. That's a region with a huge percentage of people on assistance, yes sometimes with bogus disability claims but also because the region is so economically devasted. Imagine Woody Guthrie pulling something like that. I think this song is going to make a difference, but descriptions of it as "unifying" are clearly overblown. If you want to get what I'm talking about listen to it numerous times. You need to do that to start to get the questionable subtext of this. Likely your first impression (as was mine) will be to be moved by it.

Well, he had the right to object to it but as he objected to it so strongly, he should have just avoided shopping at that private business.

Egads. It's obvious. HOMOPHOBIA

Not this time bubba