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Yes, Eric Dubay; wasn't sure of the spelling because I have seen both used. Perhaps you might expand on the 'inconsistencies and concerns' about the heliocentric Solar Sysytem. Many FE's say that the planets and stars are fake and that there is only a dome-like firmament and as such completly denies just about everything science based. In this stance there aren't inconsistencies just denial of science. Is this the model that you subscribe to? Do you subscribe to in the'infinite plane' model? If not perhaps you might say which model you do subscribe to.

You are not correct. I didn't want to 'name names' as it were, previously but since you seem unaware of the standard flat earth model claims, I will do so. Here are two among many FE's who categorically denied the 24 hour Sun in Antarctica; Nathan Oakley and Eric Dubet. These are both well known FE's. There are others. You can find their denial directly from their websites or from GE's debunking FE. The refraction for an apparent Sun on FE has long been debunked, partly by FE's themselves. FE refraction claims would also produce and require other effects (like a second Sun reflected from the 'dome' around the FE) which are not seen in reality.

Since the Flat Earth community denied a 24 hour Sun in Antarctica because this was an impossible phenomenon on a Flat Eath. Both Flat Esrthers and Globers recently witnessed the 24 hour Sun in Antarctica proving that the Eath is not flat. Flat Earthers are now scrambling around to debunk it including ALL members of the adventure are lying. They are now turning on ach other claiming 'this & that'.Truth is that Flat Earth is now just a cult of nonsense and will ignore anything that shows the Earth is an oblate spheroid.

She is still in the lower tax level then?

I am not sure but I think Thai women (Spanish too I think) are more prone to Hirsutism/Hypertrichosis than others but I have no statistics to back that up.

Agreed...up to a point. No matter how well they are taught or how tough the driving test might be once free on the road the mindset doesn't change. Me first...foot down hard, 'look I can drive fast', can't lose face, amulates will keep me safe... etc. Their whole philosphy towards driving on the road has to change and I can't see that happening because it stems from so many other cultural factors.

Balance in all things

As others have suggested, get checked out by a professional. You could be suffering from of mild panic hypertension or any number of other issues. But while you are doing that replace thoughts with another thought like counting backwards from 100. This is not a cure but it could temporarily alliviate the condition.

Those FE's I have spoken to told me that the Sun is only 5000 miles above which moves around the FE. The one thing about the Sun that we can all agree on is the apparent angular size as seen from the Earth (Globe or Flat). Now you work out the diameter of the FE Sun and tell me what is wrong with it.

Merry Christmas and a Good New Year to all.

I don't subsribe to Flat Earthand those that do will often deny a particular point without reason and some who have done experiements often debunk themselves. However, that isn't my point here. The Flat Earth 'Movement' membership is growing and one has to ask the question 'why?' Even though the FE chap who admitted to seeing the '24 hour Sun' and being wrong one could tell from his attitude that he isn't going to leave the FE membership just yet. Phrases like '...don't believe me...' and '...someone [a FLat Earther] might work it out...' or words to that effect. Now some FE's are busy trying to use their 'dome' and "firmanent' ideas to show that a '24 hour Sun' is possible on a flat Earth by reflection, refraction and so on. However, I have yet to see a mathematical model on how that works. When the so called 'Final Experiment' was announced many FE's began denying that they didn't subscribed to the FE model that most subscribed to before the announcement but never showing the alternative model that they did subcribe to. Be that as it may, I did read an article earlier this year that it had been suggested that Flat Earth be taught at infant school in the UK (as an altenative view) and I understan that it is being considered. There are Flat Earth books for kids so I guess that's what they have in mind. Imo it's the growing mistrust in many so called science papers that are partly to blame.

Yes, a few years ago I lived in 'sugar-cane country'. Not only was there a 24 hour fog but the water was often turned off too. Car was often covered with black flakes. Now I have a next door neighbour who burns everything from plastic to dog's poo.

compassionate lot on this thread eh? One coment was hoping they suffer more! Ok so they are politicians but there is no need to be unsympathetic. In old age one has to be very careful about loss of balance. Yes, I think they should retire but I also hope they both recover soon.

Sounds like a deep hate. vengence type of crime. Looking at the AN Newsletter list; Woman stabbed to death...Thai man kills stepbrother...Son-in law shoots mother in law; How often is it said on this forum that Thai guys have short tempers. My codolences to the families and hope the injured recover.

I don't think so, just because most members are expats doesn't mean that they aren't interested in science. I would agree with you if complex scientific details were discussed but here we are really just discussing casual elements. Someone here may have noticed that this morning another similar topic in the media appeared saying that NASA experiments suggest a parallel world with time going backward. IMO it's just another bit 'sensationalism' from the media but we can discuss it about should it appear on AN.🙂

Ok, so there is no doubt about the condition of the boy's penis, no illness or sting. So while at school did the boy not complain about or show signs, of pain? Surely during school time the boy must have complained of some discomfort especially when going to the toilet? Did the teacher just keep quiet or take no notice?

In some ways you are correct in others, perhaps...I won't say incorrect...you feel a kind of mistrust. I mean you no disrespect because you are not alone. Our two best theories to date (overall) are quantum theory and general relativity and they seem to be correct as far as 'local' experiments are concerned. General Relativity has for most part has given us some hope because its result seem to fit many observations but...GR can also predict the (initial) 'big bang' by reversing direction but then it such suggests infinities...which is just another way of saying we don't know how/why/what etc happened in the first place. (A similar situation applies to Black Holes which GR predicts but then tells us nothing about the inside of a BH). Quantum Theory (and experiments to date) give us some idea of how the constituents of matter behave and we extrapoltae from there. (The Sun is a good example. The point where astrophysicists call the 'surface' is very much cooler the outer corona and as yet we don't know why. That's why probes are being sent to find out which one of the few ideas they have (magnetic fields, special types of waves etc.), is closer to the truth.) As I have written elsewhere, our science/knowledge is in its infancy and anyone who thinks were are an advanced species are just plain wrong. There is a lot of mistrust about what the science fraternity spews out and that mistrust is well founded. So many 'papers' are products of just ideas and not proper reserch.

The other alternative is just infinite quantum field which, for reasons we don't understand, at some points in it certain fluctuations result in a 'big bang' or a universe(s) that might or might not have simiarities to the one in whcih we exist.

Like most of one's life, it depends your health. If one's health is good in old age then it's a pleasure doing those thing you never had time for. Thailand is just right, if you have a little spare money, good health and someone who cares (friends) then I think thats the 'paradise' we'd all like to have.

I do neck rotation during my morning workout but I know my limits. I have never had a Thai massage but like you, if I did, neck and head would be out of bounds. The Atlas and Axis are the head/spine connection and have a fair range of movement but lower than that the spine vertebra become more restricted and a lot care is required if there are problems in those areas.

for the last week or so both day and night the dogs have yapping away on the private land adjacent to my bedroom at the rear. One particular dog has a distinctive 'rap rap rap' and belongs to the owner who lives on the land. I counted seven dogs one afternoon and I didn't see the owner once. Probably several pups will now be born to increase the number of strays. The lane in which I live has seen many attacks on children and motorbike riders by these dogs which still roam day and night. Officials must know because of the children having to spend time in hospital yet nothing has been done.

And it took 50 years for that to be noticed? Proves my point. Secondly, that article (from 2019) quotes 'Today, the models are much more sophisticated. Mainframe computers driven by paper punch cards have given way to supercomputers running trillions of calculations in 1 second.' A single supercomputer cannot run at trillions of calulations per second...one source, Greenly had this to say (Feb. 2024)...'Looking to the future, the European Union has recently approved plans to develop two new supercomputing infrastructures which will be used in part for climate modeling. The first supercomputer is being installed in Germany and is known as JUPITER. Once the supercomputer is up and running it will be the most powerful computer in Europe, and the first to achieve exascale performance (ie. the capability to carry out over one billion calculations per second!)' which is a thousand times less than a trillion.

Firstly, the 'outdated' MIT grid was never meant to be advanced only to show the very simplest of what a simulation takes into account. You would have noticed that if you had interpreted my comment correctly. You call it 'today's advance climate science' but it is not advanced and that's the point. It is yet in its infancy and we maybe able to call it advanced when later discoveries are made where the maths fits the data within narrow error margins. Take for example aerosol emission where scientists are still trying fix the lack of data. And another point from 2023 was the sudden jump in temperatures which went beyond rate increase predictions. Scientists 2023/2024 are just beginning to introduce AI to help solve some of the problems. So we have along way to go before we can say our climate science is advanced. If it were that advanced then there would only be one interpretation of results but at present, that is not the case

Anyone that thinks that that climate change is by now an exact science is wrong and here I'm referring to just natural climate. All climate Models (and there are a few) revolve around solving PDE's (Navier-Stokes for example) for quite a few variables. Only in very simple states can the PDE's be sovolved analytically but for the climate they have to be numerically approximated. Then there is the problem differentiating land and sea effects and further differentiatin terrain, mountains, forests, hills, valleys and planes which all react differently and affect each other. Not to mention various forces that also need to be accounted for. Now add to that Global Warming (human/animal influence on climate) concrete buildings and roads, how close or far they apart, big small and so on and on. The enclosed picture is from a MIT lecture, 2008, describing a simple 1 year computer model simulation. Each square is divided further into 'grid-cells' and some basic equations applied. It apparently took about 1.5 trillion calculations. More complete simulations require a great deal more computing power...and where does that come from? Some people argue that we have better technology now but what they don't relaise is that the information we are collecting now will not impact predictions until several years time. Yes, there is a general upward trend but the reality could be worse or not so bad depending how the approximations are viewed.

Whatever is told to the nations about stop this practice, stop doing that etc. etc. just isn't going to work. There are nations that will continue along their present course and IMO it is already too late, we've reached a point of no return. However, just how much will 'mother Earth' adjust as the weather/climate patterns change might not be as much as some predict or as some think, it will be worse than current predictions. It will probably be the next generation or two that will either have to adjust or ....In other words, I don't think there is a solution that would be acceptable or affordable. I wonder what would happen to the climate if all flights were grounded, no car usage and no grid to supply electric, for one week?