parallelman

'Many years ago'? I lived here for 30 years and was never asked for tax clearance.

The Relativity of Einstein is not an abstraction. They have been tested time and time again. Wish I could say the same about the FE which is very close to abstraction. For example, I haven't seen or read about any FE'er taking a trip up to the 'dome' and/or firmenment to test this idea. Plenty of homemade models to SUGGEST various ideas about refraction, reflection, twin Suns etc. but not actually doing experiments in the sky to verify. They build a model at home and that's it.

Well I suppose the first thing that the RD has to do is think about how many expats are living in Thailand and how many returns they have received...hmmm, wonder how long that will take? Okay, say the RD decide they are many short which direction will they go to find who has not got a TIN, banks or immigration? Can't see immigration wanting to get involved because the extra workload might be considerable. Since TIN is about money it would seem to me that banks would be obvious step (but then again TIT). I wonder how many years that would take to set up?

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Yes, just watched TNT who mentioned this (couldn't get on to AN due to an 'host [AN] error 504). Apparently it's a common tourist (fee couple of thousand Baht) activity. One has to remember these are wid animals and not 'domesticated'. Nonetheless, being stabbed by an elephant tusk must have been very painful. Tragic. Condolences to the young lady's family

The bible is just another story book where most of the stories came from times much earlier. The ark, floods, were stories from ancient Sumerian and Babylonian times. The Sumerians were the first to write that the Earth was flat but the Sumerians weren't much conserned with theory and thus had little interest in the sky. To them their many gods were the reason for this and that happening and their mathematics were mainly for practicle everyday uses. All that really happened was that all the gods could be combined into one almighty. If you idolize one book of stories then you are likely to miss out on the wonders of the universe.

Have you bought a telescope and looked at the planets? Many of the images you claim as reality are simply out of focus. Albedo is another problem. Below are photos from my small telescope during a Lunar Eclipse. The Moon is so bright that no details can be seen but as the Earth's shadow moves across the Moon some features of the Moon become visisble. Note also that the Earth's shadow is curved.

Yes, Eric Dubay; wasn't sure of the spelling because I have seen both used. Perhaps you might expand on the 'inconsistencies and concerns' about the heliocentric Solar Sysytem. Many FE's say that the planets and stars are fake and that there is only a dome-like firmament and as such completly denies just about everything science based. In this stance there aren't inconsistencies just denial of science. Is this the model that you subscribe to? Do you subscribe to in the'infinite plane' model? If not perhaps you might say which model you do subscribe to.

You are not correct. I didn't want to 'name names' as it were, previously but since you seem unaware of the standard flat earth model claims, I will do so. Here are two among many FE's who categorically denied the 24 hour Sun in Antarctica; Nathan Oakley and Eric Dubet. These are both well known FE's. There are others. You can find their denial directly from their websites or from GE's debunking FE. The refraction for an apparent Sun on FE has long been debunked, partly by FE's themselves. FE refraction claims would also produce and require other effects (like a second Sun reflected from the 'dome' around the FE) which are not seen in reality.

Since the Flat Earth community denied a 24 hour Sun in Antarctica because this was an impossible phenomenon on a Flat Eath. Both Flat Esrthers and Globers recently witnessed the 24 hour Sun in Antarctica proving that the Eath is not flat. Flat Earthers are now scrambling around to debunk it including ALL members of the adventure are lying. They are now turning on ach other claiming 'this & that'.Truth is that Flat Earth is now just a cult of nonsense and will ignore anything that shows the Earth is an oblate spheroid.

She is still in the lower tax level then?

I am not sure but I think Thai women (Spanish too I think) are more prone to Hirsutism/Hypertrichosis than others but I have no statistics to back that up.

Agreed...up to a point. No matter how well they are taught or how tough the driving test might be once free on the road the mindset doesn't change. Me first...foot down hard, 'look I can drive fast', can't lose face, amulates will keep me safe... etc. Their whole philosphy towards driving on the road has to change and I can't see that happening because it stems from so many other cultural factors.

Balance in all things

As others have suggested, get checked out by a professional. You could be suffering from of mild panic hypertension or any number of other issues. But while you are doing that replace thoughts with another thought like counting backwards from 100. This is not a cure but it could temporarily alliviate the condition.

Those FE's I have spoken to told me that the Sun is only 5000 miles above which moves around the FE. The one thing about the Sun that we can all agree on is the apparent angular size as seen from the Earth (Globe or Flat). Now you work out the diameter of the FE Sun and tell me what is wrong with it.

Merry Christmas and a Good New Year to all.

I don't subsribe to Flat Earthand those that do will often deny a particular point without reason and some who have done experiements often debunk themselves. However, that isn't my point here. The Flat Earth 'Movement' membership is growing and one has to ask the question 'why?' Even though the FE chap who admitted to seeing the '24 hour Sun' and being wrong one could tell from his attitude that he isn't going to leave the FE membership just yet. Phrases like '...don't believe me...' and '...someone [a FLat Earther] might work it out...' or words to that effect. Now some FE's are busy trying to use their 'dome' and "firmanent' ideas to show that a '24 hour Sun' is possible on a flat Earth by reflection, refraction and so on. However, I have yet to see a mathematical model on how that works. When the so called 'Final Experiment' was announced many FE's began denying that they didn't subscribed to the FE model that most subscribed to before the announcement but never showing the alternative model that they did subcribe to. Be that as it may, I did read an article earlier this year that it had been suggested that Flat Earth be taught at infant school in the UK (as an altenative view) and I understan that it is being considered. There are Flat Earth books for kids so I guess that's what they have in mind. Imo it's the growing mistrust in many so called science papers that are partly to blame.

Yes, a few years ago I lived in 'sugar-cane country'. Not only was there a 24 hour fog but the water was often turned off too. Car was often covered with black flakes. Now I have a next door neighbour who burns everything from plastic to dog's poo.

compassionate lot on this thread eh? One coment was hoping they suffer more! Ok so they are politicians but there is no need to be unsympathetic. In old age one has to be very careful about loss of balance. Yes, I think they should retire but I also hope they both recover soon.

Sounds like a deep hate. vengence type of crime. Looking at the AN Newsletter list; Woman stabbed to death...Thai man kills stepbrother...Son-in law shoots mother in law; How often is it said on this forum that Thai guys have short tempers. My codolences to the families and hope the injured recover.

I don't think so, just because most members are expats doesn't mean that they aren't interested in science. I would agree with you if complex scientific details were discussed but here we are really just discussing casual elements. Someone here may have noticed that this morning another similar topic in the media appeared saying that NASA experiments suggest a parallel world with time going backward. IMO it's just another bit 'sensationalism' from the media but we can discuss it about should it appear on AN.🙂

Ok, so there is no doubt about the condition of the boy's penis, no illness or sting. So while at school did the boy not complain about or show signs, of pain? Surely during school time the boy must have complained of some discomfort especially when going to the toilet? Did the teacher just keep quiet or take no notice?

In some ways you are correct in others, perhaps...I won't say incorrect...you feel a kind of mistrust. I mean you no disrespect because you are not alone. Our two best theories to date (overall) are quantum theory and general relativity and they seem to be correct as far as 'local' experiments are concerned. General Relativity has for most part has given us some hope because its result seem to fit many observations but...GR can also predict the (initial) 'big bang' by reversing direction but then it such suggests infinities...which is just another way of saying we don't know how/why/what etc happened in the first place. (A similar situation applies to Black Holes which GR predicts but then tells us nothing about the inside of a BH). Quantum Theory (and experiments to date) give us some idea of how the constituents of matter behave and we extrapoltae from there. (The Sun is a good example. The point where astrophysicists call the 'surface' is very much cooler the outer corona and as yet we don't know why. That's why probes are being sent to find out which one of the few ideas they have (magnetic fields, special types of waves etc.), is closer to the truth.) As I have written elsewhere, our science/knowledge is in its infancy and anyone who thinks were are an advanced species are just plain wrong. There is a lot of mistrust about what the science fraternity spews out and that mistrust is well founded. So many 'papers' are products of just ideas and not proper reserch.

The other alternative is just infinite quantum field which, for reasons we don't understand, at some points in it certain fluctuations result in a 'big bang' or a universe(s) that might or might not have simiarities to the one in whcih we exist.