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36 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

Try to calm down to get focused plse thx.

 You had me right up until this sentence. 

34 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

A person unauthorised to accept and receive confidential U.S. Government national security and intelligence documents is in violation of U.S. law. The instance of Assange is one clear reason the international instrument of the extradition treaty exists.

 

UK is currently endeavoring to comply with the extradition request made officially to it by the Government of Sweden. UK courts have upheld the extradition request of Sweden after Assange's lawyers challenged it.

 

Equador is currently and since what, 2010, providing refuge in its London embassy to a non-citizen of Equador Julian Assange.

 

Laws are laws and they do apply, in the instance of national security as well, perhaps especially and in particular.

 

The example provided in the post is absurd and it is your bizarre construct.  If U.S. were to commit genocide against anyone you'd be the first to find it and to report it. For sure. You, Putin, Assange, Wikileaks, Snowden. The Four Horsemen plus one. 

Hang on a minute. You are saying that, and I quote "A person unauthorised to accept and receive confidential U.S. Government national security and intelligence documents is in violation of U.S. law".

 However Sweden are not trying to extradite Mr Assange on, as you put it "unauthorised to accept and receive confidential U.S. Government national security and intelligence documents" charges now are they? They are going after him on some BS trumped up rape charge. So your point in this particular instance is void.

Had it been any other guy in the world, the Swedish authorities would certainly not be going to these extremes to have him extradited from a foreign land. That fact in itself would surely be ringing alarm bells in Assange's ears. And rightly so in my opinion.

Next stop ! The Ecuadorian Embassy. I am sure Mr Assange will be happy to have a new friend.

On a serious note. Yes. He is guilty but is extradition in the best interests of both parties considering the lad's mental health issues. Taking him away from his family is the LAST thing anyone should be doing. The other side of the coin, he would become a financial burden to the US taxpayer, by both putting him through expensive legal proceeding and then incarcerating him in an expensive special needs unit.

4 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

What nonsense. That is what they were doing when 5 Arab armies surrounded and provoked them. No support then - until they whipped them all and sent them packing. 

Definitely not the case in the 1973 Arab-Israeli conflict. Israel were on the canvas big time and were about to be pushed into the sea until Papa bear came to their rescue with a massive weapons and ammunition resupply.

12 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I doubt it.  They'll claim the information to be presented at trial is of a classified nature, and the courtroom will be sealed in the interest of national security.  

 

Of course, the only national security they'll be protecting are the stories of misdeeds and embarrassments of the people in power.

 

Yesss. 

33 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

 

He apparently drugged and raped a woman. Obviously, you do not consider that to be a serious crime. Fortunately, the Swedish government does.

Key word in your post = "Apparently".

7 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

The charge is a potential rape.  Hardly trumped up.  They just want him for questioning.  Fair request considering the potential charge.  He's using a scare tactic to keep from reporting from the authorities.

    I am tipping Mr Assange knows A LOT more than you do about his personal predicament. And, underlined by the fact that he has incarcerated himself in the Equador Embassy for so long, would suggest that it is not all nice and rosy as you are trying to perceive.

    Don't forget he has people in high places that feed him information [about government plans and actions] that normal people [ you and I ] would never ever see or hear first hand. 

5 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Great conspiracy theory.  Assange has got many feeling sympathy for him due to this.  Luckily, it's not true.

 

http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/08/18/would-sweden-ever-extradite-assange-to-the-united-states/

 

If you believe that there won't be a loophole that the US will exploit to get their hands on him then that is your prerogative.

Maybe they can be evacuated by military transport aircraft back to where ever they came from.

If he goes back to Sweden to face the music, regardless of the outcome, guilty or not guilty. His next stop will be to the United States where he will spend the best part of the rest of his life incarcerated. Plain and simple.

More extrajudicial killings by the murderous Israeli war machine. What is the ratio I wonder, of shooting and killing/severely wounding an "alleged" assailant to those taken into custody ?

Maybe the US is starting to listen to the Syrian and Russian governments. There should be NO negotiating or colluding with any separatist groups. They should ALL lay down their arms or be destroyed by an alliance that includes the US Coalition alongside Russian and Syrian government forces. Once all the 'self appointed trouble makers' are annihilated, then it is time to see who will put their name in the hat to govern Syria out of this mess via an election. This is the only way the current status quo can/will be changed.

19 minutes ago, Raymonddiaz said:

how about hundreds of millions civilian killed by American drones? Is the life of a western has more value than a life from a third world country?

" Hundreds of millions " of civilians killed bu American drones? That's a bit far fetched don't you think ? The Nazis didn't even get anywhere near that figure whilst implementing their "Final Solution" and they were a lot more indiscriminate. But yes, it does seem that a western life has more value in death than those from the Middle East.

The United Nations is a joke/farce. Particularly in the Security Council where 5 countries get to use veto power against the majority. Bit hard to blame Ban for it. It was a failure before he took office and as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, the UN will continue to fail after he is gone. The UN's greatest feat, the Korean War. It worst was creating Israel. Both happened a long time ago. Time to move on from this useless apparatus and find a new way forward that serve EVERY nation. Not just a handful of countries that's only interest is their own.

45 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Remember what started this.  A brutal crackdown by Assad.  It started with him.  Not the rebels.

I believe the "crackdown" was in fact triggered by criminal and terrorist groups attempting to take advantage of misinformed, uneducated and naive everyday Syrians on the back of the Arab Spring. Any leader, any government of any country in the world, would act in the same manner to maintain internal security and overall sovereignty. Failure to do so in this instance, by Assad, would have surely seen an end to Syria as a sovereign country. Instead being splintered up into different pockets and regions, each governed by their own terrorists / criminals groups and warlords. The perfect environment for international terrorists to breed,train and prepare to further their Jihad against the "infidels". Something that the West is always on about trying to exterminate.

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

He would have saved it by killing off quite a few Syrians, though.

Yes. Quite a few.

52 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

You are saying that building military bases on pristine reefs in territory that is not yours is ok?

Nope. My point is he [ Philippine president] seems to have a bee up his arse with the US, but when it serves him well he is willing put up with said bee. A hypocrite is what they call it in English.

47 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

 

The two knowledgeable posters would note that Israel is not even a side with regard to the supposed cease fire. The same posters, so worried about keeping the peace, somehow fail to condemn the Syrian regime for allowing these incidents.

 

The Israeli reaction was limited in scope and got little to do with the cease fire.

Ohh! Please stop it. Us "two knowledgeable posters", like every other poster here aint' as knowledgeable as yourself Lord Morch. Right????   Talk about the pot and the kettle. 

Israel is the US greatest ally in the region. Israel don't do $hit without the US. And here they are starting more trouble, making themselves part of the problem when others are trying to fix it. Put you crystal ball down and put your glasses on. 

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

And without Iran's and Russia's aid, Assad would have been toast by now.

Without the US and her cronies getting involved in yet ANOTHER Middle Eastern conflict, Assad would have put down the terrorist uprising well before the Russian intervention. And have saved the lives and livelihoods of hundreds of thousand of Syrians.

The Israeli war machine doing its best to inflame the situation and derail the current US-Russian brokered ceasefire. If Washington allows this to happen, then they are not serious about said ceasefire, nor peace in general in Syria. They just want Assad out regardless of the cost. No wonder Putin looks as though he is ready to break Obama's jaw. 

What is his position on US support for the  Philippine government reference the South China Sea ? One could make a case that "America is inflaming" that situation as well. 

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Assad supporters prior to the outbreak of civil war  represented approx 20% of the Syrian population. Accordingly unless the Assad dictatorship undertakes a complete 'cleansing' of the Syrian Sunni majority & others  his regime will still be a minority dictatorship. Yes part of the country 'still works', but with massive corruption and ruthless suppression, including the torture of children.

 

G_d only knows what the future of Syria will look like as to date I've yet to read or hear of a coherent plan.

How doesn't "80%" of the population defeat the "20%" with their uprising ? Just doesn't add up.

The US should just butt out of it completely. Then we will all see how the Palestinians fair.

Assad and his ally, Russia, are the only way forward to achieving peace in Syria. The west have tried and failed. The Wests' end state in Syria would be a replica of Iraq, Afghan, Libya etc etc.

Yes, there will be those who have to live under "Assad rules" [or leave for Europe] but life's a bitch for some minorities the world over. Not just Syrians.

Hope she's found safe soon and scum bag shot !

On what grounds are you basing your tag of "scum bag" on? And why should he be shot ?