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Remember this from last Tuesday Chaiyaphum partygoer found dead after contracting Covid-19 I have not seen it reported as a death or included in the provinces infected case numbers yet

I am still waiting to see the party goer from Chaiyaphum to be added to the death numbers and added to the provinces numbers to me it shows that not all numbers are correct

18 minutes ago, cracker1 said:

Without any details of the number of people tested, these reported figures are meaningless !

For example in New Zealand yesterday, 6400 people were tested and 3 were tested positive. This is from a total population base of about 4.75 million. Figures here have meaning.

That not tell them how many people have had the virus with no symptoms it only says how many have the virus at the time of testing

20 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

Here's part of the reason we don't trust the numbers: 

 

When the number of tests done jumped from 22k to 72k, the number of positives didn't change at all. Assuming the extra 50k tests had the same hit rate, the positive number should have approximately tripled on the same day. Yet it stayed the same. Subsequent to that, the number of tests performed has risen to over 140k yet the number of positive cases hasn't risen proportionately. I want to be as 21 April-ish as possible. But, not sure if the data is up to date.

Testing numbers are not given out every day the 140000+ data is now 3 days old and has not been updated

3 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Right, so the one party goer that dropped dead has not been recorded. Begs the question how many others.

 

EDIT: This one for those not familiar with the matter:

 

I notice that but I was waiting a few days to see thinking there might be a day or two to report death it did not say wat the cause of death was might be drink related or heart attack or of cause covid.

I will look at that area for a few days to see if there are any more infections

21 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

When was the last time MoPH announced a COVID death?

 

EDIT: worldometers says 17th of April. He's not included, unless it's the one recorded today. Very unlikely as he would have had to been Confirmed with two PCR tests.

It said he died yesterday maybe only do 1 test because he dead and police wanted him buried today

So it might be interesting to see if he included tomorrow

The one today was a taxi driver

looks like they do test for Covid after death 

6 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

It was this, apparently leaked image of an internal MoPH document: 

 

Thank you reading that states that 71000+ were taken up to the 4th of April and the figures given buy the CCSA spokesman yesterday was 142000+ so it means that about 71000 test have been made over 16 days so about 4400 a day not many but and I say but if the figures of new cases is correct I can see why they are so low

He states that the Worldometers figures were wrong

9 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Apparently worldometer picks them up from TV broadcasts and the mouthpiece there pulls them from some hidden stats. 

Where did you get these figures from (suddenly rose from 27k (IIRC) to 70kplus) I have only seen one place that quotes testing figures and the 27k was the same for 4 or 5 days before changing to 70 plus

3 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Were there any tests done in these provinces?If no that may answer your question.

If people had the virus and just sent home to carry on as normal I think you would see many more cases than you see today so I would guess that there are testing

Just now, DrTuner said:

While most by now understand the confirmed count is a heavily filtered number, here's a clincher for those who still doubt it's "creative accounting": On the day when test numbers suddenly rose from 27k (IIRC) to 70kplus, there was no blip in confirmations whatsoever. That's because the 50k extra was private hospital results and their positive are not confirmed. 

 

MoPH knows the real count. The Confirmed is what's used as a propaganda tool. At least they do have a view of the real situation and have instituted measures accordingly. The re-opening is more politically motivated.

I have said many times the government do not give testing figures out every day if you look yesterday figures they are the same as the figures today

I was not sure I believed the figures given out at first, but now I am not so sure, there are 15 provinces that not had any new cases in the last 28 days 9 of them have not had 1 case, surely someone in one of these provinces would say if they were tested positive for the virus and not counted

1 minute ago, sapson said:

The figures are as predictable as a pantomime!

 

A slow down trend and a miraculous return to near normality so the government generals dont have to dip deeply into their private trough to feed their own people or risk a being overthrown my ignoring their plight.

 

Never mind the true numbers tested figures etc .......or the statement from the head of a hospital group in Bangkok warning of the full hospitals with covid 19 specialist treatment facilities etc.......cant link it here but google, the coming storm by Boom Vanasin its a Bkk post article.

 

Take a bow Prayut! prepare for the accolades, Thailand the masters of virus management....... the less you test the less positives you have.... pure genius.

 

Post re submitted having been sugar coated as required.

if they are lying about the numbers of deaths and outstanding cases why did they not lie about how many test they are doing nobody would know if true

3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Thailand probably does have 200k+ cases, as estimated by Dr.Boon, the same man that mentioned Chula, Siriraj and Bamras are full.

 

The strangest thing is, most seem to be asymptomatic or so mild they don't get admitted. Now there's a new study that found mutations in the strains with up to 270x virality in the strains from Italy and NYC.

 

Thailand needs random antibody tests to determine if they got the early Wuhan-light strain widely spread in the population. It could hint at immunity and possibly aid in vaccine development.

For 1 time we agree the test needs to be antibody test but are there enough test yet to carry out a big enough survey and are the ones available reliable 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Germany are doing well. I wonder how Thailand would cope if it had 147,000 cases?

Think better that we did not have that many cases maybe somebody did the correct things or was Germany slow at the beginning and there is a report of another 1785 new cases today

2 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

There were reports of some Bangkok hospitals being full.

But, it seemed they have put the Covid patients into just a few hospitals which I believe is a good management strategy. There are over 100 hospitals in the greater Bangkok area.

I am sure the majority of the hospitals in Bangkok and throughout the country have no patients.  Which, is great news.

You can move ventilators quite easy but ICU units are a lot more difficult so I think if there was a large number they would be spread around

21 minutes ago, Raymonddiaz said:

Sorry to spoil a little bit this news but no massive testing means no cases. The policy of burying one’s head in the sand is not the right strategy. The government should conduct massive testing of the public as the German government successfully are doing.

 

Germany are doing so well over 147000 cases and only 4862 deaths which is over 100 times more deaths than here 

6 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

I googled it. Try 'Taweesilp slammed as 'govt lackey'' in Bangkok Post. I was wondering why they'd do another one when MoPH already exists.

 

And yes I sure as <deleted> will not trust the usurpers, ever. Everything needs to be independently verified.

But you conveniently did not say it was quoted by anti government elements 

4 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Ah-ha, yet another agency... can't find a website or anything else. I don't watch TV. If somebody has a pointer to the internetz, please share.

I am not sure why people like you bother with all this you not trust anything anybody says you not believe anything you not like to hear why do you look on here

The CCSA is the spokesmen for the Covid agencies and are seen with meetings with the Prime minister and they give all the facts and figures you see on the internet and in the papers 

22 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

And there's no source for that figure disclosed. It sure isn't MoPH, they are not telling the numbers. 

It was quoted on the TV by the CCSA spokesman in there Midday Broadcast with all the other figures that you see now

5 minutes ago, Hubble said:

"Thailand on Monday reported 27 new coronavirus cases, bringing the nation's total to 2,792 cases, a senior health official said.

 

Thailand has had a total of 47 fatalities, and 1,999 patients have recovered."

 

So is that 1,999 of the 2,792 that have recovered, or are 2,792 still "active"?

 

Just curious, this isn't very clear.

No only 746 cases active

41 minutes ago, mrfill said:

142589

 - figure for previous day was 100498

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

They do not show for every day I think that was up to day 17 they did show on a graph but I cannot find it online

8 minutes ago, Yadon Toploy said:

It jumped from 20,000 to more than 70,000 in a day around the time when a story surfaced about a PR firm being hired to make the government look good and the same firm were caught lying about testing numbers according to an article in the Thai Enquirer.

 

Now quoting 142589 on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ which was about what I see on the TV

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

William Aldis the former WHO chief in Thailand also made this recommendation for this approach in Thailand, its published in the Bangkok Post today so no link.

oh I not look at that paper