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We think of this as third world, but it isn't. 

Google "Anne Sacoolas", a US citizen, who killed a British lad in a car accident, she was questioned and released to return the next day for more questions.  She then fled back to the US and they refuse to extradite her to face charges.  Even at the highest level of government, they refuse to return her.  She's only charged with causing death by dangerous driving, so even if found guilty, she might not even do time.   

But she ran, and is now driving happily in the US.  Hopefully she won't kill any more kids there.

When this is the sort of example we - who are supposed to have honest judicial systems - set, why are we surprised when third world countries follow it.

So, 13% infected and most would never have known about it without a test.

No, I'm not an anti, I've had my first dose and am waiting for my second.  I do think that it isn't the plague it's made out to be though.

Closing the world for this has been a mistake and, IMO, the only reason that continues is that the politicians have talked themselves into a corner they can't back out of.

9 hours ago, jaiyen said:

Why have they only locked down 3 local villages ? They should do it for at least a 50 klm radius. People do travel !

For the money they're paid, they have to live locally, travelling costs too much.

I brush teeth, cook rice, pasta, potatoes, all in tap water.  So eggs, yes.

Bars.  I remember bars.  ????

I nearly spat out my tea reading this.  It would have been beer, but that's out. 

5 hours ago, Hockeybik said:

Will 1,000,000 rich Chinese come here to buy condos?

If this scheme allows them to actually OWN the land, I wouldn't put it past the Chinese government to sponsor them to do just that.

For once the bar owners aren't complaining about losing a couple of days business.  ????

I shouldn't laugh, but laughs are few and far between these days.  

Does getting onto a committee earn them money?

As to traditional herbs to alleviate symptoms;  

The Kasikorn I use gives 30 notes, so it's normally 30,000.  If it runs out, it's 15,000 in 500's.  I don't know if it stocks 100's, I've never asked it for them.

20 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

But he is leaving in a week or so and will apply for a non-o visa at a embassy. Read the OP again.

What i don't understand is why he doesn't get his visa here before leaving, where it's simpler.  Ah well, up to him.  ????

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17 hours ago, connda said:

Where's your sources and attribution links?  You don't have any.  I do.

"Quantitative microbial risk assessment (QMRA) studies have been conducted to understand and characterize the relative risk of SARS-CoV-2 fomite transmission and evaluate the need for and effectiveness of prevention measures to reduce risk. Findings of these studies suggest that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection via the fomite transmission route is low, and generally less than 1 in 10,000, which means that each contact with a contaminated surface has less than a 1 in 10,000 chance of causing an infection"
Sources:

• A. M. Wilson, M. H. Weir, S. F. Bloomfield, E. A. Scott and K. A. Reynold, “Modeling COVID-19 infection risks for a single hand-to-fomite scenario and potential risk reductions offered by surface disinfection,” American Journal of Infection Control, vol. Article In Press, pp. 1-3, 2020.
• A. P. Harvey, E. R. Fuhrmeister, M. E. Cantrell, A. K. Pitol, S. J. M, J. E. Powers, M. L. Nadimpalli, T. R. Julian and A. J. Pickering, “Longitudinal monitoring of SARS-CoV-2 RNA on high-touch surfaces in a community setting,” Environmental Science & Technology Letters, pp. 168-175, 2020.
• A. K. Pitol and T. R. Julian, “Community transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by fomites: Risks and risk reduction strategies,” Environmental Science and Technology Letters, 2020.

Thanks for that.

So, 1/10,000 per contact. 2 hands, that's 2 contacts, adjust your grip a couple of times, that's 6, bodies are heavy, so it'll likely touch your torso a couple of times, that's 8.  The same to get it out of the ambulance, that's 16.  Or 16/10,000 = 1/625 mimimum, for a single body, handled well.  6 bodies in a day, that's about 1/100.  Multiply that for poor handling techniques - and I've seen a LIVE person slung in like a piece of meat after a bike accident.  See where I'm going here?

Covid can be caught from surfaces, that's why there is so much disinfecting going on.  Bodies have surfaces.  The clothes they're wearing have surfaces.  So, covid can be caught from bodies.

19 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Because a non-o visa based upon retirement applied for at a embassy or official consulate requires the 40/400k medical insurance.

But he's in Thailand right now.

Why not get your Non-O before you leave?  Should be simpler.

Have I missed something?  I thought we could still buy beer for drinking at home?

Look around the world, all the countries that are coming out of this have high vaccine rates.  That's enough evidence for me.

Well, restaurants in malls are about my last choice.  Too much delicious Thai food available locally.  Farrang food I can cook myself.

OK, add my boycott.  

Wake me up when it arrives in Thailand, please.

edited for speeling.