FarangCravings

Oh and by the by, she is the first Muslim Miss USA

She is against building the Al Queda mosque near Ground Zero. That and the hot picture are relevant enough for me.

Well I must say its the first time I have thought about having sex with a muslim She looks way better without the Burka on no wonder they want them to wear them things if they all look like that

No weapons? Are you kidding? Here is how the radicals treat their own children.

I cant argue with that UG its wrong but its the only way they think they can fight back they have no real weapons to do israel any real harm except if they slip an suicide bomber through its wrong for sure but I can understand there frustration with the way they are treated by the Iraelis

I dont think we can ever agree a few years ago I would been right there with you but not now Israel is now a heavy handed unjust bully in the region that think they are above International law.

The video is wrong but so is a lot of what israel does, is just as bad.

Not really but who made the US the world police authority

Polanski is another case they actually have a right to request that as he is a US fugitive afeter having commited a crime actually on US soil while in the US

Shit they will be requesting to extradite me soon for smoking a cuban cigar which is Ilegal according to the USA

That is where you are wrong. There is no guarantees when surrounded by enemies and Israel has come close to losing in one war. As has been said many times, if the ''Palestinians'' lay down their weapons, there would be peace with Israel. If Israel lay down its weapons, there would be no Israel anymore ... That is why Israel has to deal with those who would destroy them so harshly.

Sorry UG

WHAT ARMS are they to lay down ?? the rockets ? all I see on the news is a few kids throwing stones and some sling shots hardly a need to lay down there weapons when faced with the arms of Israel completely one sided

I know Hamas Militants have arms but the majority have to make do with rocks when attacked by Israel

I actually dont beleive based on Israels past that there would be peace unless it was purely on Israels terms I really dont.

Sorry, but Goliath is all the millions of Muslims and their huge countries who surround tiny Israel and refuse to let them be. I agree that the left has turned their back on Israel, but, as usual, their reasons for doing so have nothing to do common sense or doing what is right. Stalin always referred to them as "useful idiots" - even though they supported him - and he sure got that one right.

Come on UG your a smart guy you dont beleive that in case you forgot Israel took out all its neibours in 1967 in 6 days and it could do the same today

Israel is the Goliath in the Middle East and if there is any question of that add the USA backing and you can no longer argue the fact

I dont think anyone beleives that Israel should not have a right to protect itself, hel_l im up for taking Iran out if its required, but the problem people are having with Israel is they are heavy handed and come across as a bully with the backing of whatever they do legal or not by the US.

Israel is supposed to be smart but somethings wrong where someone like me has switched his view over the past few years because of what Israel is doing to basically a powerless people, Im not talking about Hamas Im talking about the regular palestinians who are ultimately the ones that are suffering the most. even from their elected power Hamas

Nobody likes to see children hungry and indiscriminate bombings etc by a Goliath over a David

I think the world is changing its sympathy from Israel and in reality its wrong but they are doing it to themselves

They were punishing everyone in Gaza for electing and supporting Hamas (both Egypt and Israel are now allowing most items in).

I do not see what choice they have as the "Palestinians" have never negotiated for peace in good faith and everyone knows it. I'm sorry, but no one is nice to sworn enemies who only want to destroy you and will not accept an Olive branch no matter how many times it is offered. It is up to the "Palestinians" how they are treated.

I disagree

You cant offer an olive branch in one hand and then start building on land you have promised to stop buidling on in the other theres no credability there.

i kinda expect Israel to handle themselve way better than the Palestinians but it comes over that they really dont give a Sh&%$T what the Palestinians think especialy Netanjahoo its quite like an arrogance like we will do what we want cause you can't do shit and if you try we will crush you.

thats how I feel god knows how those living in Palestime feel but I think it might be worse than me.

Israel needs a good PR firm

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And as for rockets can you really call them that ??

If one fell on your house, you would think otherwise.

Maybe the US thought that the "Palestinians" would be smart enough to elect someone who would not just make things worse and worse for them. Yet another stupid mistake and then they whine and cry it is so unfair when it comes time to pay for the choices that they make.

They really are their own worst enemy.

Rockets if you look at the facts you will see hardly anyone has been killed from the thousands of fireworks launched from Gaza but if you look at the deaths caused by Israel its is certianly eye opening.

As for Hamas and voting I agree with you but look at it from the worlds standpoint you spout democracy and how one man one vote shoul be the rule of law then when it happens its a total back track kinda makes you understand why people dislike the US and Israel when they dont accept the vote of the majority when it does not go in there favor.

It becomes more and more obvious that the crocodile tears cried by the left for the "poor Palestinians" have a lot in common with the shafting they get from their Arab "brothers" who just exploit them as pawns in their vendetta against the Jews.

Like you say UG Hamas are thugs I dont think any one will argue that however why do Palestinians support them ? Because they are the only ones even remotely capable of doing anything to the IDF and Israel, there is no excuse for using children as shields but on the other hand theres no excuse for Israel killing children either but it happens,

you have to remember those being held are vicitims just like the ordinary people being denied Chocolate, spices herbs or the kids denied toys to play with on the ridiculous banned items for import

I gotta say that was really damaging to me when I saw they were denying kids toys and chocolate and candy it certainly pushed home the goal was more than just trying to stop weapons getting in they were punishing the regular palestinian children and adults.

these people arent treated any better than dogs

Maybe they should not have voted for the Hamas terrorists to run Gaza after the Israelis handed it over to them - to convince them to make peace. Constantly shooting missiles into Israel has not made things any easier for them either.

OK I gotta pipe in UG

Prior to there lection the US and Israel were ranting and raving it has to be a democracy give them the vote let the people decide yada yada and then when the people voted they did not like the outcome complete hypocricsy as it did not come out HOW THEY WANTED to and never recognized the peoples vote.

I aint no Hamas fan but there is a difference between Hamas and the Majority of Palestinians

I posted on another threat I used to be Pro Israel but over the past few years what I have seen from them is a disgrace and criminal I do beleive the world is tiriing of Israels heavy hand.

And as for rockets can you really call them that ?? compared to what Israel drops on them fireworks more like

Yes went to Israel as a kid

You let loose a classic totally biased inflammatory Israel bashing rant and then say, finished now, lets get back to topic. How does that work? I suppose it does work, but people please remember the Palestinian leadership has never said they accept the existence of the Jewish state of Israel, period, the state, we aren't talking about controversial territories now. You can't negotiate with a force that wants you liquidated. Next ...

Ok since you dont want to get back on topic

Its not a totally biased nor meant as infflamatory which generally means you dont agree with it since its inflamming you

it s my view based on what I see on news channels and read about in a variety of news publications both pro and anti Israel.

My personal view on this subject has changed over the past few years, prior to that i was completely pro Israel and understood there action however over the past few years that view has changed and so has my perspective of Israel and while I dont agree with HAMAS or that they dont recognize Israel the actions of Israel over the past few years are borderline criminal especially there action in Lebanon " overkill" there use of banned war munitions the ridiculous banned items denyng the palestinian children candy and toys continuing buidling in the settlement when they promised they would stop, I could on and on and on but my about turn is a result of years of what is portrayed as a one sided one rule of us and another for them.

The recent boarding and killing of the 9 turkish people again Israel had no right to board a ship in international waters and attack its passengers who of course are going to defend themselves, if however they had waited till they were in Israeli waters then Ok they have an excuse based on the video but to board a ship in International waters is an act of piracy but yet again because its Israel they get away scott free with there actions.

I dont dislike Israelis I dislike the israeli government and the fact that no one will say anything cause they will be called Anti semetic and thats not right, when they do wrong they have to be punished just like they are punishing the Palestinian and Lebanese people when they do wrong, I dont mean with bombs I mean the International community but they are too scared as they have the US as the big jeffe and no one has the balls to speak the truth because they will then be labeled anti semetic.

Im not anti semetic but I certainly dont agree on what Israel does and gets away with.

What's the point of a ban under international law if the main agressors of the world, who also happen to be the main users of the nasty things, (US and Israel) will not stop using them?

Might as well NOT ban them so at least if they are used against the US or Israel, the users are not war criminals.

Was not White phosphorus banned

It did not stop Israel from using it in the Gaza strip so no reason to beleive that this ban will result in anything different.

Well just saw on the BBC that the US is requesting extradition of another Russian who has never set foot in the USA but is requesting his extradition for selling Stolen credit card info online from multiple servers in Russia.

Apparently he is a famous Hacker named BAAD and only got arrested when he went to France and was arrested by the French and the US were right on the case starting Extradition requests for him to be shipped off to the States.

Something is not right Here and pretty much means anyone can be extradited to the US if they request it and put enough pressure on the holding country

Yes went to Israel as a kid

No anti semetic here mate just very clear to see that Israel is no better than the palestinians, they murder innocents commit war crimes and get away with it. They lie to the world and then get proven they lied with video evidence and still get away with it.

its not anti semetic its the truth and thats just another excuse from people trying to supress the truth by using that term labeling people as racist and not being allowed to have there own point of view based on the evidence presented

The world can see clearly that Israel is now the aggressor and the world is rapidly losing respect for them especially when its shown there so called embargo includes Candy, childrens toys and other ridiculous items which are banned items which they only retracted when it came to public light.

Embargo I understand if rockets, arms, explosives etc but essentials for living thats just Wrong and theres no excuse for it.

I really never knew much about it all but after watching everything I could on the subject its clear they are no better than the terrosists they are fighting problem is they consider children and anyone who is palestinian as terrorist too,

As for the excuse they are shooting rockets into Israel ok its clearly wrong however compared to what Israel uses on them they are mere fireworks.

Not anti semitism but the truth but a convinient accusation to keep people from speaking out else be accused of anit semitism

Totally irrelevant to this thread but you went there as a kid, was that 60 years ago? and all your facts are from where exactly? the TV.

No About 25 years ago and your right get back on topic but i could easily refer you factual sites if you really need it but i think you already know the truth on this matter and would not beleive it if it were plain in fron of your face.

Back to Bout

I saw the video. However I don't believe that it is real. They are professional actors to make the future King & Queen looks bad. BAN BAN BAN, BAN ALL THIS STUPID WEBSITE THAT SPREAD FAKE VIDEO. Works of CIA / MI5 / KGB?

I have some doubts about the authenticity of the Video too. But I rather not ban the Video, instead make a public research. If it turns out to be faked without doubt (and this would surely be possible with the technology we possess today) then crack down on the culprits with all might of the law.

In case it ain't fake, well, the public will make up their minds.

ARE YOU GUYS NUTS Some people dont want to beleive it even when its clear as day in front of them

One can understand Russia's argument here - on what grounds does th USA have to extradite - on suspicion that he may sell arms that may shoot down helicopters? On that basis, anyone could be extradited. The McKinnon case was ill-founded and became a face saving thing for the USA I believe (which ultimately became an embarrassment). I'm still reminded of the USA's refusal to extradite (or even name) the friendly fire pilots that the UK wished to interview with possible intention to prosecute for negligence (one particular case where a convoy was shot up that had clear markings, was on a planned and registered route and had working transponders).

The following quote is probably familiar to many people after the happenings in the Iraqi prisons.

"Washington anticipated and prepared in advance for the war crimes now being committed against the Iraqi people. No criminal charges can be brought against a US soldier in Iraq because the puppet Iraqi Governing Council has given the American military a blanket amnesty from prosecution. Secondly, with the backing of Germany and a number of other countries, no US soldier or citizen can be prosecuted for war crimes in the International Criminal Court. "

Hey we can do anything but don't try to touch us.

that sounds just like Israel

Do you actually know the location of Israel or just like to blow anti-Semitic smoke in the air?

Yes went to Israel as a kid

No anti semetic here mate just very clear to see that Israel is no better than the palestinians, they murder innocents commit war crimes and get away with it. They lie to the world and then get proven they lied with video evidence and still get away with it.

its not anti semetic its the truth and thats just another excuse from people trying to supress the truth by using that term labeling people as racist and not being allowed to have there own point of view based on the evidence presented

The world can see clearly that Israel is now the aggressor and the world is rapidly losing respect for them especially when its shown there so called embargo includes Candy, childrens toys and other ridiculous items which are banned items which they only retracted when it came to public light.

Embargo I understand if rockets, arms, explosives etc but essentials for living thats just Wrong and theres no excuse for it.

I really never knew much about it all but after watching everything I could on the subject its clear they are no better than the terrosists they are fighting problem is they consider children and anyone who is palestinian as terrorist too,

As for the excuse they are shooting rockets into Israel ok its clearly wrong however compared to what Israel uses on them they are mere fireworks.

Not anti semitism but the truth but a convinient accusation to keep people from speaking out else be accused of anit semitism

One can understand Russia's argument here - on what grounds does th USA have to extradite - on suspicion that he may sell arms that may shoot down helicopters? On that basis, anyone could be extradited. The McKinnon case was ill-founded and became a face saving thing for the USA I believe (which ultimately became an embarrassment). I'm still reminded of the USA's refusal to extradite (or even name) the friendly fire pilots that the UK wished to interview with possible intention to prosecute for negligence (one particular case where a convoy was shot up that had clear markings, was on a planned and registered route and had working transponders).

The following quote is probably familiar to many people after the happenings in the Iraqi prisons.

"Washington anticipated and prepared in advance for the war crimes now being committed against the Iraqi people. No criminal charges can be brought against a US soldier in Iraq because the puppet Iraqi Governing Council has given the American military a blanket amnesty from prosecution. Secondly, with the backing of Germany and a number of other countries, no US soldier or citizen can be prosecuted for war crimes in the International Criminal Court. "

Hey we can do anything but don't try to touch us.

that sounds just like Israel

As an African-American, I feel that Dr. Laura Schlessinger was wrong and right. There is a very negative connotation and long history attached to the word "n****r". The word usually conjures up thoughts of racism

Here's where I think that Dr. Laura is right: She correctly pointed out that there are some Blacks (especially rappers and comedians) who use the N-word casually. She said "black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO, listen to a black comic, and all you hear is n---, n----, n----."

Dr. Laura was merely making the case that it is hypocritical for a Black person to use the word and then get angry when a non-Black person uses the word. Also, Dr. Laura was referring to when a variation of the N-word (nigga) is used as a "term of endearment

The fact that Dr. Laura used the N-word in and of itself does not make her a racist, and I was not the least bit offended by the context in which she used it. She never directed the word at the caller and the word was not used in a hateful or condescending way. I surmise that Dr. Laura was trying to illustrate a very valid point that it is hypocritical for Black folks to use the N-word, and it is also, preposterous that blacks use it as "a term of endearment" . Other times some Black people use the N-word as a derogation or an insult, to refer to other people of any race (example: to describe a person who is ignorant and trifling). One Black person directing the N-word to another Black person, doesn't make the use of the N-word acceptable.

Dr. Laura should not have to apologize for expressing her honest opinion and speaking the truth. I think that this is part of the problem in America as to why we can't move forward on race relations. It's like white people are on edge about political correctness and have to walk on egg shells about the least little things in order to avoid being accused of racism. How are we supposed to overcome our deep-rooted problems with race relations if honest dialogue is constantly discouraged?

A great answer I thought

My exact thought UG

how can a race complain about the word when they use it in there everyday language and then when another race uses it its a problem I really dontknow why Dr Laura is aplogizing all over the place she should of stuck to her guns she did not use it in a racist manner but she is back tracking like crazy when this issue needs to be bought up and discussed instead she is letting them make her out to be a villian when she really has done nothing wrong.

The US is a strange place sometimes

As an american jing you are being politically correct and trying to avoid the question

Not really, I hope Dr. Laura rots in hel_l, she is a total bigot against gays as well, how's that for non-PC?

Dont know about that Jing but one thing is for sure SHE HAS A RIGHT TO HER OPINION

The point is the only reason this word is still around is it is used by Black people and that was all she was trying to say before it was all taken out of context and now she is villified for nothing that she did that was bad she just told the truth she did use the word to refer to HBO and people using it but NOT in a derogatory manner in any way other than being white and daring to utter the word.

Like I said I would never hear the word in day to day life unless it is coming out of a black persons mouth on HBO rapping or Chris Rock

sorry folks, not Thailand related but I will move it to outside the box if you want to continue the discussion?

Feel free to move it

Not really, the OP clearly wants to talk about an American talk show host's political problems. Really nothing to do with Thailand, is it?

How about is the N word the same as the F word?

Then what does Dr. Laura have to do with that question? Answer -- nothing at all.

As an american jing you are being politically correct and trying to avoid the question

Not really, the OP clearly wants to talk about an American talk show host's political problems. Really nothing to do with Thailand, is it?

How about is the N word the same as the F word?

Depends who calls me Farang if its anyone that knows me I have a problem with it if they dont know me and refer to me as a farang thats OK to me both words are derogatory comments

Unless you can link this topic to the use of the F-word FARANG, and right quick, this topic has a life expectancy of a microwaved fruit fly.

Been linked twice already

Now hopefully we can have a debate about this subject without it getting deleted

I was watching CNN the other day about this American woman who on a radio show who used the word Nigger in the following context

Black Lady calls up the show and asks how to deal with her white husbands friends asking her how does a black person feel about this subject and that subject etc and says she feels her husbands friends are being racist the doctor says she does not think they are being racist but the word N%$#R came up by the caller and the Dr says hel_l you can hear the word N$#@r every day you just have to turn on HBO at this point the woman caller get pissed that the white doctor has dared to use that word and immediatley took offense and took it out of context and accused the doctor of being a racist which if you listen to the interview it was taken completely out of context..

Next minute the doctor is saying sorry and leaving her job and everyone is ganging up on her it was totally ridiculous

LETS GET REAL PEOPLE

The only people that use that word these days is Black people and the doctor was right just turn on HBO and you will hear it over and over again being said by black people now if they dont like the word and completely understanbdable then they should lead by example and not use it but to try and ban a word from being used by white people but used every day by black people is a bit ridiculous

Dont you think

If its SO OFFENSIVE then dont use it PERIOD

I would never hear the word if I did not watch HBO and listen to comic like Chris Rock