Jump to content

sirineou

Advanced Member
  • Posts

    18,026
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    3

Posts posted by sirineou

  1. 44 minutes ago, impulse said:

    Mine usually worked, but keep in mind his DL will no longer have his current PP number if he has sent the PP off for a renewal.  I don't know if that affects anything, but it's worth knowing. 

     

    Edit: You never know when they may upgrade the system to flag a bad PP number upon check in.

     

    Yea , that's a good, point. and good to  keep in mind

    We drive around Thailand all the time, and stay in places overnight, most of the time my wife makes the reservations and they don't even ask for nothing. We just came back from CM where we stayed at a very nice place a couple of days. I showed them nothing. 

    But I always keep  pictures of my passport in my phone, and i think my wife might have a couple of pictures in her wallet .

  2. 5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

     

    OK let's work on theoretical maximum efficiency for electrolysis where experts think we could end up with Fuel Cells.

     

    The theoretical maximum efficiency of electrolysing water into Hydrogen is 66%, currently Fuel Cells are between 40% and 60% efficiency, the best ever achieved is 87% but that involves a process that could never be shrunk in size to fit a car as it involves extreme heat so let's go with 70%.  I don't think we could ever get more than 95% efficiency in compressing & distributing Hydrogen.

     

    66% times 70%times 95% gives 44% efficiency, if we accept that producing hydrogen must have losses of at least 5% ie 95% of the theoretical maximum efficiency is 42%

     

    It can never be more than 42% efficient so that puts a Hydrogen Fuel Cell car at 2.5 times more expensive per mile than a BEV.

     

    If we are talking about an ICEngine adapted for Hydrogen (there's a video doing the rounds titled "This new Toyota Engine will destroy the EV industry") then the sums are 95% times 66% times 95% times 25% which gives 15% efficiency or 6 times more expensive per mile than a BEV.  ICEngines are typically 25% efficient, we've been developing them for more than a century and that's where we are at right now.

     

    The science and the math don't lie.  Further, I expect Hydrogen to attract a Fuel Tax.  It's possible that they may sell the Hydrogen for less than they could sell the electricity to the grid, but would any commercial operation want to do that?

     

    Taking your point about the new Hydrogen Storage Tech, that's great, it means we can store Hydrogen in a smaller volume to give the car a greater range, but it doesn't change the efficiency calculations.

     

    These all  might be true. 

    But again it makes assumptions . Theoreticals change, as do processes. 

       But even assuming that they remain constant and indeed  the productions frontier is at 66% ,and ignoring natural hydrogen. and other processes of extraction. 

    Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universes, and a less efficient  but abundant recourse  always always trumps a more efficient but finite resources . 

    One simply produces more. 

    There is a reason why Giants in the automotive industry who know more about this than you and me ever would, are betting on Hydrogen.

       You sound like a thoughtful educated guy think about it.

      . You can't only consider the contemporary science, if there is one constant is that the science changes but  also the economics involved change . 

    Aside from  the scarcity of materials nessacery for the production of traditional Batteries , the political realities of the location of such material, and the environmental concerns of their extraction. 

    Conventional batteries are heavy, and anyone familiar with  F= MA  now that weight is critical for not only cars, but airplanes , and trunks. 

    Airplanes for obvious reasons,   and trucks  because of the payload limitation. currying abound non productive weight makes no economic sense.  

    Once the hydrogen infustracture for airplanes and trucks exists , and the continual RD for them , I find it difficult to think that this infustracture will not extend to passenger vehicles.  

      I keep using the term "Traditional batteries" because fuel cells are also batteries , which causes some confusion in the mind of many . 

       

     

     

     

  3. 40 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:


    Because you produce electricity by whatever means and you can either put it in your BEV achieving 90% efficiency 

     

    OR

     

    you can electrolyze water into Hydrogen with waste product Oxygen, very inefficient 

     

    THEN

     

    compress that hydrogen using lots of electricity to put it into storage tanks which is inefficient 

     

    THEN

     

    you pump it into tankers using more electricity which is inefficient 

     

    THEN

     

    you drive this tankers to fuel stations using energy to make the delivery 

     

    THEN

     

    you pump the hydrogen into tanks at the fuel station using electricity 

     

    THEN 

     

    you pump and compress the hydrogen into vehicles using electricity and producing heat as a waste product

     

    By now we are at 50% efficiency 

     

    THEN

     

    and this is the kicker, you either explode the hydrogen in a specially converted ICE which are typically 25% efficient 

     

    OR

     

    you convert it to electricity to run the electric motor in a Fuel Cell which is 50% efficient 

    Have ever  heard of scales of markets?  

    And technological innovations?

    All that you posted make the assumption that all that exist today will remain the same . 

    even as me talk there innovations in the production and storage of Hydrogen is being made. that will make traditional BEV's obsolete. 

    "Green Hydrogen Will Become The 21st Century Version Of Oil "

    "The green hydrogen market will expand from about $1 billion today to $30 billion in 2030, according to MarketsandMarkets. Low renewable energy prices and advancements in electrolysis will drive the growth.  "

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2024/03/18/green-hydrogen-will-become-the-21st-century-version-of-oil/?sh=377c3cfd6365

     

    "New Hydrogen Storage Tech Crucial for Aviation, Could Make Hydrogen Cars Viable After All "

    "A team of researchers from the Ulsan National Institute of Science and Technology (UNIST) in Korea has discovered a new storage technology. The research centers around a nanoporous magnesium borohydride structure (Mg(BH₄)₂) that can store hydrogen at high densities even under normal atmospheric pressure.  "

    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-hydrogen-storage-tech-crucial-for-aviation-could-make-hydrogen-cars-viable-after-all-230995.html

    • Thumbs Up 1
  4. 1 minute ago, nauseus said:

    This "bloodbath" refers to the effect on the US auto industry if the large-scale import of Chinese vehicles, made in Mexico, is allowed.

    Yea right 

    With all the Economic phrases available to his speech writers, they thought " If Biden wins it will be a bloodbath" :tongue:

    Not if these trade policies are followed it will be a blood bath.

    But "If biden wins" 

    If you really believe that, I have a bridge I am willing to sell to you at a very reasonable price. 

    • Like 1
  5. 10 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

    I agree. I can't see why anyone would get 'frothy at the mouth.' I mean it's only in regard to things he actually says and does. How terribly unreasonable.   

     

    I'll give the same question to you as did to ol' G_Money. What do you think Trump meant when he said 'undocumented migrants are “poisoning the blood of our country. It’s so bad, and people are coming in with disease.” or when he said '“We will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country' 

     

    Do you agree with these statements? Do you think they are being misinterpreted? 

    The phrase "Bloodbath" was carefully selected by those who wrote his speech ,They are not as stupid as trump's followers. And neither are we, 

    It is a dog whistle phrase  , a thinly veiled propaganda device threat, designed for plausible deniability.

    trump does it all the time. 

     

    • Thanks 1
    • Haha 1
  6. 49 minutes ago, Chivas said:

     

    So 12 hours to London and it takes another 20 hours to hop across the pond into Florida ??

    Apparently you have never flown from BBK  to Florida

    two  Connection to FL. Depending on layovers it easily could , and has many times.  .

    Do a search in any o the airfare websites , see what you find.

    Emirates now has a direct flight from Dubai to Orlando, but you still have a layover in Dubai. 

    I think my shortest flight was 21 hrs. and the longest close to 40

    The top 4 flights in the search below is (30 hrs 15 min)  ,(26, hr 45 min ), (25 hrs, 19 min,)  (26.5 hrs )

    image.png.393b42232cb0bc6828af23d286fc2707.png

×
×
  • Create New...