Mario2008

The rules also state that for cases not described in the order the casse can be referred to the commander of the immigration bureau for special consideration. Never heard about anyone trying this way, but might be a last option.

I think the suggestion of Lite Beer about a special needs school is your best option, if possible.

On a toursist visa you can apply for a 30 day extension at an immmigration office for 1,900 baht.

If need be you can get a visa exempt entry. This doesn't have any effect on the ED-visa. The only rule is that you can only get a total of 90 days in a 6 month period on visa exempt entries. A visa doesn't count to that rule.

2. You only need a work permit if you work in Thailand. Just go with the proof your embassy requires to the embassy and they will issue the statement.

3. You apply for an extension of stay at based on your marriage to a Thai during the last 30 days of your permitted to stay stamp at an immigration office.

1. Yes.

2. No. (Maybe if you have an airticket out of thailand within 7 days the might give you another 7 days).

3. Yes. A tourist visa is for 60 days, a multiple means that you can enter thailand for a maximum of 60 days and leave and come right back again for another 60 days. I think this would meet your desire.

There are also non-immigrant visa's for 90 days, which can be extended to 1 year. These are given for specific reasons, like education, work, marriage to a Thai, etc. It depends on why you want to stay in Thailand.

They changed the law and can now charge upt to a maximum of 20,000 baht per workpermit and the WP can now be given for 2 years instead of 1. But they haven't raised the price yet and they still only give 1 year.

Note that under the old rules they could already charged 10,000 but only charged 3,100.

As for my remark above about the cost to change the visa, this is 2,000 baht, not 1,900. Sorry.

You can apply in Thailand for a change to a non-B at an immigration office if you have at least 21 days left on your permitted to stay stamp. (And of course have al the required documents as mentioned above).

The workpermit isn't 20,000 and should cost only 3,100. Immigration will ask for another 1,900 to change your visa.

Hi Simon,

Currently I teach about 13 hours a week and don't have any problems extending my workpermit and permission to stay. The school has to provide a work schedule and can explain that hours need to be added for meetings, school activities like scouting, checking home work and preparing your lessons.

(My current school only shows the actual hours I teach and doesn't mention the hours you can add to that and that is no problem).

So partime volunteering should not be a problem.

Good luck.

Incompetence in this case (probably) means that the person is not capable of making decisions of its own, for example in the case of a mental illnes. I'm pretty sure it doesn't cover the case were the mother has abandond the child and doesn't help the father in this case anyway, as he doesn't have legal custody.

Yes, 2 posters who both joined in December 2005. and made a handfull of posts since, are now coming out of woodwork with similar problems.

Even more problems and intertwined situations than what it started with.

Must had been a bad month to join the board, that December 2005.

as opposed to you who has talked sh*te consistenly from the beginnig

As opposed to your sound advice.

This is what I said and no serious poster confronted it:

Without the sole custody document, almost no documents at all as in the OPs case, check this:

THAI PASSPORTS FOR CHILDREN: Parents wishing to obtain a Thai passport for their child must present a Birth Certificate (for children under14 years-old) or Thai identity card (for children between 15-20 years-old) of the child, the House Registration Certificate and the identity cards of mother and father. Both parents must accompany their minor child during the application process. In case one of the parents is unable to be present, he/she must sign a letter of consent, which must be brought to the office by the other parent and the minor.

I don't know what statement you want to make her. Yes, if OP would have custudy over the child together with the mother he would not kneed much documents, just a statement of the mother that she doesn't object to her child having a passport. But the mother has disappaered..........

Further it seems the Op didn't legitmize his child. That means he can not apply for a Thai passport for his child as the mother has sole custody over the child. Only the mother can apply for the passport.

http://www.mfa.go.th/web/473.php?id=3167

I disagree with the Dutch Embassy that you need to show that you are on the Thai household registration. There are other ways to show family life , or in other words that you live together with your children for more than 3 years. Bills and official letters etc in your name at the childrens addres might be enough.

The law change will soon come into effect, so it might not be worth the trouble to oppose the decision of the embassy.

But if you want to make a principle matter out of it I'm more than happy to assist you. I'm not a lawyer, just a juror, but pretty confident you would win the case.

The first question here is if the OP has any parential rights or if the mother has sole custudy. It is still unclear if the OP ligitimized the children. That determines his options in this case. If he has ligitimized the chidren he can ask the court for sole custody, since the mother left. If he hasn't ligitimized the children and only has his name on the BC he would be in a lot more difficult situation.

Thai passport: both parents must be present. Neither the OP or Thai mother alone can get the passport for the girl.

Australian passport: both parents or whoever has parental responsibility (if not biological parent, then court order) have to sign "Consent" part of the passport application.

I "registered" my daughter with Oz embassy just past her 4th birthday, no questions asked.

For the Thai passport it would depend or wether the person has sole costudy or not. A person with sole costudy doesn't need aproval of the other parent to get a passport for a child.

The rules probably depends on the state where you plan to marry. Better check the website of the state where you plan to marry, to see which documents your girlfriend needs to show in the US. Don't forget to have them notorized by the US-embassy in BKK.

Normaly you can do it from 30 days before your permitted to stay stamp expires.

If there are reasons you have to do it before 30 days, like having to go abroad and not returning in time for the extention they will accomodate you even earlier.

Note that 90 day reporting can be done up to 1 week before or after the date you are supposed to make the report. Not 2 weeks before.

If it is only about getting Dutch nationality for your children than why can't you get Dutch Nationality for them right now?

They can get Dutch Nationality after 3 years from the date of being recognized by a Dutch national. As indicated by Isaan Lawyers, they were legitimized under Thai law on the day you were married, in Nov. 2003. That would make them elligable to apply for Dutch nationality since november 2006 under art. 6 lid 1 sub c of the Dutch Nationality law.

One of the questions is if you are the legal father, since you were not married. In your case more would be required than only be named on the birthcertificate, namely you had to register the child yourself and ligitimized it as yours. If somebody else registered the child you would not be the legal father under Thai law. The mother would hold sole custody over the child. In essence taking the child to the US without her permission would be a crime.

There will soon be a change in the Dutch nationality law, I understand the law is alerady aproved but not in effect yet:

http://www.tweedekamer.nl/images/30584%20b...m118-102156.doc.

Also there is an interesting court rulling on this subject:

LJN: BA4885, Gerechtshof Arnhem , 860/2006, just go to this website: www.rechtspraak.nl above right choose LJ and enter BA4885.

Note that in this case the children had an urgent interest in requiring the Dutch nationality. If your children have not, for exemple you want to move to The Netherlands, forget it. Also it might be wise to wait for the law change to come in effect. The legal proceding will probably take a longer time.

Dutch law knows 2 procedures to establish fathership, the recognistion (erkenning) and the paternity action (vaststelling vaderschap). Both don't work in retrospect. You can probably have your children aquire Dutch nationality but not get the government to recognize you as the father from the moment of birth.

Note that under art. 3 of the Dutch Nationality Law you get Dutch nationality if either your mother or father has Dutch nationality at the time the person is born.

It doesn't say the parents have to be married or the father needs to have recognized the child. It might meen the children already have Dutch nationality, provided you are the biological father and can proof that. Ask a Dutch lawyer about this.

(Recognising a child as yours is not the same as admitting that you are the biological father, it means that you state will be the legal father, whether or not you are the biological father. That might be why there is a difference between aquiring Dutch nationality as to when the child is recognized by the father).

Correct. In Bangkok the amphur office is kalled Ket. You can get marreeid at any amphur or Ket.

Yes, it is a one day procedure. You just register and get a marriage certificate right away. Shouldn't take long, not more than an hour.

Your name can be on the birtcertificate without you knowing it, don't know about Thailaw if they can have your name without aproval. That might be interesting. Also the passport thing is interesting, but might be a mistake by the passport office.

The rules are clear and require that your name is on the BC and you register yourself. But the law is not everything and there are also some (European) court rulings regarding the recognisition of a child. In deed don't give up to soon.

Scouse is correct, as uasual. Since the 2 of you were not married the children didn't automaticaly aquired Dutch nationality, unless you recognized the children as yours before they were born.

For children regocnized after the birth the rule is that they can aquire Dutch nationality after 3 years since the recognition.

Regarding your question about Thai law, the statement of the embassy is true: only when the unmarried father is also the person who registers the birth is he recognized as such under Thai law. The fact that you registered them yourself means you recognized the children as yours. Since you did not, there is no proof that you recognized the children.

I can't find a proper link right now, but you could ask Isaan Lawyers, one of the forum sponsors, on the family and children forum, where your question realy belongs.

A student visa doesn't allow you to work, only a workpermit does. Working without a workpermit is a criminal offence.

However on a education visa you can do on the job training, as part of the course.

Not sure how that would work out when you recieve an income. But you yourself state that you are working for them, not following a course and not have a workpermit. That makes it illegal.

Best advice, find an employer who will apply for a workpermit for you.

Yes, that's ok. You can even return on the same day you leave Thailand. Just go to the border, get stamped out go to the neigbouring country and get stemped in and out and return to Thailand to get stamped in again.

Every time you enter Thailand, you get a new 90 days. So if you just leave Thailand en come back before the one year of use is finished you get a new 90 days and so almost 15 months of stay.

You won't stay 90 days. otherwise you would be on overstay and risk deportation.

If you would apply for an extension to one year and get it, you would be staying longer than 90 days and would have to report to the immigration police.

You can see if you qualify for an extension here: http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/2notice/rtp606EN.pdf

You get the 90 days automaticaly on arrival. Watch out that they give 90 days and not 30 days, sometimes they are tired.

With (m) you probably mean multiple. It means you have to leave Thailand every 90 days and can come right back.

However you might be able to apply for an extension of your permitted to stay stamp to one year and every year after that. That however depends on your cirumstances and if you meet the criteria.

Since you won't be staying in Thailand for 90 days, you do not need to do the reporting.