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Well considering that all passengers entering Thailand by air are tagged in photographs perhaps somewhere in the cavernous vaults the immigration dept there is actual information as to who these persons in the images shown really are and when they departed Thailand and hopefully where to as well.
If that is the case all of these persons can be traced and interviewed, maybe the truth may emerge as to what,and who and when regarding this horrific crime.
Go after Sean McAnna.
This guy had a similar injury. He claimed he knew who done it. He claimed he knew David tried to help Hannah. He named the persons. He was whisked of the island. He posted a statement on David's Facebook not speaking to him but to the people who would be looking. He was laying out his alibi. He claimed those guys are scary people. He done this on video for the news. Pictures have exposed him out with some of these people. The same bunch from the AC bar.
Now he is sat in Milan with his feet up. Watching and reading our posts. <deleted by draftvader> One day you will have to come clean. Better you do it it freely. If the Thai's find him and they know he is a liability he could be in trouble.
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Have any of you considered that releasing pictures of people 4 to 5 hours before the crime was committed may just be to take you off the scent.
So what if 3 lads went in a shop at 11pm. how many more people went in that shop? 100+ I bet..
This is all selective propaganda to take you of the scent and have you going around comparing people's foreheads because you cant see their bloody face. It's bonkers.
You have Sean McAnna who is running around with a similar wound. Who claimed he knew who done the crime and expressed that to the worlds media, who then conveniently is whisked of the island and away to shores afar.... well Milan..
And everyone's forgotten about him.
Well here is a reminder
Further look at Seans red knuckles.
He also had a bruised elbow in pictures from the pub crawl
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So he has another Honey... she finds out...He has... so he kills himself.. hmm nnotsure about this. Personally I would have been giving her the taxi fee home. Why kill yourself? .. doesn't add up to me
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With Regards to Sean in comment above. I would put my house up in a bet he knows something. To vague in his answer. An identical injury to David. He has been hanging around the forums. Whisked of the island as soon as he mentioned who done it. The whole thing stinks like my wife's B.. lah. . Fishy stuff.
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An Email I had from Andy Hall this morning,
This morning, MWRN's international affairs advisor Andy Hall, accompanied by HRDF's Mahachai project coordinator Aye Mar Cho and also Heidi Anna, visited Koh Tao case defendants Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo at Koh Samui prison.
This visit was MWRN's first since 12th January during which past time MWRN however continued to organise, supported by MWRN's Justice: Koh Tao case fundraiser, for 3 visits a week to the guys by our Koh Samui network.
Today we met Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo primarily as a humanitarian visit to check their health and welfare, so as to give them a chance to engage outsiders and provide them emotional support. But we could also update them on the ongoing and extensive work of the Koh Tao defence team lawyers in Bangkok and the situations of their families, especially Wei Phyo's father, in Myanmar. We informed Wei Phyo that his father and mother were being provided a lot of support and all operation costs for his sick father, who is now conscious, eating and speaking, were covered. We could also inform both guys of how the Rakhine migrant community in Thailand is currently supporting both of their families with money every month to make up for the temporary loss of a child breadwinner.
After the visit, MWRN was able to deposit some donated books, Facebook support messages and letters for the guys. In addition, we could show the guys all the Facebook letters and donated books during the visit. MWRN also deposited funds into the guys prison bank accounts, one of which was running quite low in cash, and we purchased for them water, mama and canned fish.
During today's visit, both guys looks visibly healthy and strong. Both smiled and laughed throughout. In contrast to the other prisoners around, both wore new matching Lanna style clean and smart looking shirts they said they purchased inside the prison recently for 120 baht each. Wei Phyo had sown on the left side of his new t-shirt a beautiful dove, and when asked about it, said it was a symbol of hope and also joked with smiles that it was too a symbol that he wanted to fly away from his existing situation. Zaw Lin had sown on the left hand side of his shirt only his name.
Today we had a good chance to chat and exchange with both of the accused on their feelings and reflections.
Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo have now been incarcerated for almost 150 days in Koh Samui prison and, although they said they remained strong and healthy in body and mind and they said prison is not a big deal for men like them, they both said they still find the incarceration challenging at times and they want to be out of the prison as soon as possible, particularly as both insist that even though they were not perfect sons, they were not involved in any way in the heinous Koh Tao murders. Both said being in prison was the worst experience in their lives.
However, both guys said that because of all the support and regular visits they have received since their initial incarceration from so many different people, and all the letters, drawings, pictures and Facebook print outs they received, as well as Myanmar reading books and learning English language books, stationary and note pads, they had managed to avoid too much depression or stress inside the prison and keep up hope and strength for a future with their families back in Myanmar.
Both Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo said today they would never give up hope of freedom, truth and justice and would indeed fight both for the dignity especially of their parents but also their country. Both said that if not for the support they had received, they would surely have already lost hope in ever returning to see their families and country again. Both insisted they are sure they will soon be free of this existing nightmare when justice is achieved in their case.
Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo today talked about poor translators during their arrest and interrogation by police as well as physical abuse as being the main cause of their wrongful detention and prosecution. However, both insisted it was their karma to be in this poor position and they importantly did not want to blame any particular individual for the wrong that has already befallen them.
Both Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo said they longed for the day to be able to tell the truth and speak up by themselves, as for now they have been wrongfully silenced. They said they are dedicated to find justice from this case and their recent challenging experiences.
Both guys said that whilst some people strongly believed in their innocence and some may think they were actually guilty, they were both certain that a greater being knows for certain they were not involved in the killings.
Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo said that in jail, they had also met and spoke to people, including many from Myanmar, who were not bad people and heard stories from prisoners who alleged it was actually bad people outside of prison that resulted in them being incarcerated and unable to speak out for truth and justice too. Both guys said they received as much important support from people inside the prison as they did from people outside.
Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo both stressed how grateful they both were for all the support and understanding they have in the past and still now received from others.-
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Boomerangutang, do you know the Thai expression, Thai mung? It means a crowd of onlookers, it's a Thai pastime, I have no axe to grind in this case, the Burmese could well be innocent, but to assume the crowd's lack of palpable anger means no one thinks the Burmese are guilty is a jump in logic imo.
I guess your not Thai are you.
2 of my wife's friends came back from there at xmas and there thoughts are, everybody knows it was not those lads, but everyone afraid. if they speak then the can be dead. cannot stay on Koh Tao. So they keep quite.
After 20 odd years listening to the Thai's I would probably go along with them than your version. Also the re enactment was in broad daylight not 3am. Nigh on everyone on the Island is suffering from the drop in tourism and I have seen many many times when they attack the suspects. Especially if it affects them and their livelihood.
Anyway that my take on it.
Couple that with the RTP chief denying the UK MPS the right to verify and investigate the case, speaks volumes. Its the opposite of what you would expect from a country that cares about tourism and their global appearance to would be travellers. But then I guess they thought it would just get buried in the news and forgotten. Unfortunately for them it will not.
Families will be attending. Despite their initial thoughts that they have the correct people as they find the strength to examine the case through their assistant's translating they will see the same flaws that we have.
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It's all over the British media now too. The wording of the appeal would indicate that Hannah's family is convinced the B2 are guilty since they plan to attend the trial also for the sentencing.
Maybe someone here should put together a packet of all the evidence pointing away from the B2 and get it in the hands of Hannah's family. They should be able to make a well-informed decision. It's pretty common for a victim's family to toe the official line because they want closure, their feelings overwhelm their reason and they end up being part of scapegoating. In reading about Americans who were wrongly sent to the death chamber this phenomenon came up many times.
Any concern for their feelings has to balanced with the two possibly innocent lives hanging in the balance, since their opinions, rightly or wrongly, carry some weight, they should know how much evidence points away from these two guys.
Would you like the details to send it to
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She later decided to go downstairs to seek help from security officers but when she returned to the room with security officers, North ran out to the balcony. Security officers tried to pull him back but he broke free and jumped down, Kalaya told police.
Ok so later on she wanted to involve securiteeee man..
For what purpose?? was she p eed off. and he ran off a 36 floor balcony.
Yeah right Babe!!!
Why didn't you just go home....
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I can't see the point of them attending the trial since it'll be in Thai and they won't understand any of it.
True, but while the families are here there is an excellent chance they will have an altercation with an off duty policeman or other influential local. What happens next to them in that situation would answer any and all questions or doubts they had. Not exactly going to give them closure, but at least an understanding as to the concept of VIP criminals, and there is no better place to see these pond dwellers than the Muu Koh Samui archipelago.
You know this can only be a good thing.
If they can get a better idea of what is happening and see the flaws in the evidence they will demand answers. None of us know the truth its all supposition.
I for one am on the fence I just want to see verification of the evidence which was denied by the RTP.
Whereas they work with police forces on other offences. The DEA for example. They have just been selective and that must raise the question why. Anyway I added my bit to the fund.
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Well I read the page here
http://www.gofundme.com/HannahWitheridge
And I must say I am impressed the family is making a move now.. This can only be good for justice.
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Whilst they have the unverified DNA i feel the jobs in the bag for the prosecution. Very difficult to argue that unless they get a satisfactory explanation.
I fear it's a slam dunk.
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Well that's certainly pretty good evidence
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Thai " investigation" will probably reveal it was a poorly planned but nonetheless effective suicide !
Are you saying he had a bar girl who he fell in love with who then went with another customer and he was so sad as his gran died 4 years ago so he tied his hands behind his back and jumped headfirst onto a loaded gun that went off accidentally and remember if he wasn't in Thailand then it wouldn't have happened so he has only himself to blame as Thai people from the Land Of Smiles would never do anything like this and the 3 Burmese bar tenders and cleaners have been seen leaving the island as they don't have a work permit or a visa so anyways it was probably them and they found a mobile phone made by Apple in one of their pockets the same model Apple phone that the Victim was see with last week in another bar and none of this is on video because the owner of the camera has now refused to let the police have it as its private property and anyway it just shows a guy with black hair so it could of been anyone with black hair but those Burmese bar tenders had black hair so that's it............ Guilty..........
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Funny I almost posted on the original report that it's likely the gun was planted on him.
Once again the world gets the true meaning of Thainess; where life is cheap and where Thais feel so superior than any other race they can take a life without consequence and over the most trivial of matters.
Seriously you could offer me $10 million tax free to visit Thailand and I would turn it down without blinking an eye-lid. Why anyone would want to visit or live in the cesspit of humanity ( or lack of humanity ) is beyond my comprehension.
Tax Free!!!....
Hey that's worth considering.
I just wouldn't be able to go out, have a thai girlfriend, sit in bars in Samui or visit Koh Tao with my Blonde Girlfriend..
Tax Free!!! got me going but that's the Britishness in me.....
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Yep... They are... But maybe if the quality of the tourist was better, the quality of the host would be better too...Quality Hosts.
"The clip showed the man crawling out and Kabin walking to him and shooting him at close range."
All those islands are ruled by thugs.
If the tourists went to somewhere off the beaten track instead of the 'party islands', Phuket or Pattaya... They would see good quality and welcoming Thai hospitality...
Want to go to a place crawling with overweight perverts and act the thug? Expect the locals to act the thug back...
Som nam nah
Hey what's all the abuse for..... Overweight Perverts.... that's uncalled for I have been on a diet...
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Rubbish A Thailand person wouldn't do that. Now where's those Burmese men who passed 2 hours earlier and went in a 7/11...
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It's just lip service. .... Boo...... Give me ya money. .
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I seem to remember a USA guy hacked to pieces not so long ago after an incident over a few baht and a taxi fare. Not worth loosing your life for
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They offered no money just a personal guarantee
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Dark forces at work. Donation page deleted. FRIDAY 13th. ..
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Any questions you have ask Andy. He is a wealth of knowledgeThat is so sad about the site not letting them get donations . I try to make a donation when I can . If anyone wants the account they can pm me .
I thought that we were not allowed to post his details. That's why I didn't post that. But obviously you can. My mistake. Therefore don't anybody pm me since loony has posted any details you need above.
# 2000....
Arent we???
No idea.. We seem to be able to post most things its a forum after all. we post peoples pics and links to them.
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Thanks for the update. Very informative, and yet another barrier placed in front of the defence. Seems like the Thai authorities are determined to prevent a fair trial or seek justice, this time by putting pressure on the donations website.
What are the Myanmar authorities doing/saying? I thought bail was being raised, or has that sunk? Or are the B2 safer in jail than outside?
Well, let's see, vast government conspiracy at work or the defense team blatantly disregarded the rules of the service they were using:
Clearly the second.
Clearly the second AleG? Really? Your so sure of that aren't you despite it being a new policy that was placed after they had already joined the site.
Here's a cached page of the same webpage taken on 2nd Dec 2014 https://web.archive.org/web/20141202025150/http://www.youcaring.com/how-it-works
But I'll let you carry on with your conspiracy
And what conspiracy would that be?
No, really, if you are going to accuse me of being part of an illegal you should be more specific.
The old rules don't mention using the services to raise funds for legal defenses, obviously the updated rules clarify that doing so is beyond the scope of the service.
I have seen the email from them and they said they have changed the rules.
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That is so sad about the site not letting them get donations . I try to make a donation when I can . If anyone wants the account they can pm me .
Any questions you have ask Andy. He is a wealth of knowledge
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Well, let's see, vast government conspiracy at work or the defense team blatantly disregarded the rules of the service they were using:
Clearly the second.
Clearly the second AleG? Really? Your so sure of that aren't you despite it being a new policy that was placed after they had already joined the site.
Here's a cached page of the same webpage taken on 2nd Dec 2014 https://web.archive.org/web/20141202025150/http://www.youcaring.com/how-it-works
But I'll let you carry on with your conspiracy
I cant post an email I have seen for confidentiality reasons however they said they have the right to review individual cases and to change the rules.
They have driven this case of the Net.
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Following in the footsteps of my peers (and lords)
Koh Tao murder trial rescheduled
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Only a fool would believe this supposition. Really I can't believe you would think this is how it's going to pan out. .....
They claim to have DNA this conclusively ties the B2 to the scene. Unless that's debunked you have a conviction. As far as your claim they are waiting for this to die down your wrong again with this guess at how it's going to pan out. The world's media along with both the British families will be there. It's going to be global. Each and every revelation. This case has attracted so much attention that the RTP cannot afford to loose face. And if you understand Thailand you will know what I am speaking about. As a new member Jack perhaps you just joined to add a few drops of vanilla into the mix. I seriously doubt if you or your supposed good authority have a direct link into the trial judge... LOL..
What I can tell you though is Reprieve and their Lawyers in the UK are pursuing all leads/avenues to ascertain and clarify facts where it involves UK citizens or evidence that UK departments or companies can confirm are accurate. This includes the Police.
Things take time and require a procedure to be followed. Thankfully the judge has given them time.
But you would know that Jack if your in the loop hey ?