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16 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So, basically anyone wishing to vacation in Thailand must be first be approved by a Royal Thai Embassy and have evidence of COVID-19 test proving they are COVID-free within 72 hours before departing. Alternatively, they must present a ‘Fit to Fly’ or other documents proving they are free of infection. Additionally the tourists must have health insurance coverage of US $100,000 in case they need to have medical treatment for whatever reason.

With that being said they must also acknowledge that after arriving, they will remain at an ASQ hotel venue for 14 days, during which they will be tested two times during their stay at the hotel. The first test to be conducted sometime between the 3rd and 5th day of there lovely vacation, with the second test conducted between the 11th and 13th day of there by now wonderfully enjoyed quarantine, after which they can then be free to enjoy whatever remaining time they may have.

 

However, if they test positive then there time now is spent at a glorious beach front hospital where there 100K US policy will pay for there remaining vacation time in a luxuriosly appointed hospital suite.

 

No flickking way will anyone, except those expats who have family come and subject themselves to an out of pocket cost nearing the 300,00 baht range, before they can even began to enjoy there time here.  Plus jumping through the hoops just to get approved.  God forbid you take time off from work to go to through the initial testing but then to be denied or accepted at the discretion of the Royal Thai Embassy in your home country is Ludicrous.

 

Additionally, what airlines are they going to be allowed to travel on or just specific chartered flights which will only fly on certain timeframes guaranteed by the Thai Government.  I personally do not know anyone who has all the free time in the world just to sit on there <deleted> and wait for a vacation that may or may not ever come.  Additionally, whose job will allow them to just take off whenever.

 

This appears to be aimed at those with unlimited funds and High Flyers who will just unfortunately go elsewhere to avoid the three ring Thai circus that this is becoming.

 

Ok Flame and Rant over.

There is one other added difficulty, finding the insurance company who will supply the Covid19 cover !! Very seriously few and far between.

17 hours ago, mybeat said:

Wasn't this model named 5R like a week ago and now it's 5T?

 

They know next to nothing of the 3Rs, so 5 is well off the scale. But give them credit, they moved down the alphabet to T and thought, that`ll fool them.

1 hour ago, bluebluewater said:

You call that a flood?  That ain't no flood.  Go hunt up a picture of the flooding in Thailand in 2011.  Now that's a flood!

Yes, quite.  And what about the one in October/November 1990? Bangkok was under some 4/5 feet of water.

14 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

flood and drought seem recurring predictable problems and little seems to be done the alleviate the problems by successive governments. maybe it's a daft idea but how about building reservoirs in areas with rain to support the drier areas? as happened in victorian times in the uk when haweswater reservoir was built in the lake district to provide water for mancheter. and how about getting dutch experts to help with flooding prevention?

I seem to remember a few years ago. the Dutch did approached the Thai government regarding the flooding of Bangkok. The Dutch were basically given the brush off with words to the effect of, We don`t need your help. And Bangkok continues to sink.

46 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Lots of homeless drink to forget the life they find themselves in. The hopelessness they drink to forget.

 

There but for the grace of god.

 

As the poster above said. Society is judged by how it treats its poor.

Maybe so, but its the same in every country, rich and poor alike.

7 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Submarines may just be the answer! 

Submarines may well be the answer, like cancelling them and using the money saved to support those in most need. But then this is logic and that's something which is very thin on the ground in Thailand.

14 hours ago, Lingba said:

National defense???..what a load of <deleted>...the only people they need to defend against is themselves and their idiotic driving skills....

I can just imagine it now. 2 subs involved in a head on crash, or a T bone. "The windscreen was blanked out, and the brakes didn't work".

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Imagine the hatred when the army starts shooting the students and schoolkids.

We all know it's coming.

Should that happen I would hope the western countries would implement sanctions enough to cripple Thailand and its corrupt junta.

7 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Hats off to the volunteer paramedics. The real unsung heroes of Thailand's appalling road statistics.   

 

The police should hang their heads in shame. 

The problem starts at the top, and there, there is no shame.

15 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

It's called unemployment. Wandering around with nothing to do and nowhere to go

If you have nothing to do, please don`t do it here.

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

When you take the job of a PM of 70 million people, one should prepare to deal with some are are bound to show their displeasure and discontent in every which way, and as long as thailand is a democracy, those unhappy will continue to show it...

Enlighten me please. When was Thailand ever a true democracy?

19 hours ago, Speedo1968 said:

If you are from the UK and are classed there as non-resident my understanding is, that you are not entitled to free NHS treatment and care for three months, should you decide to return there.   This is irrespective of the time you may have worked in the UK.

One of the requirements for retirement visas in Thailand is the 800K bank deposit, no doubt this is to ensure you could, if necessary pay off your hospital bill.

Traveling back to the UK could be very expensive depending on your condition and of course flight regulations could ban you from traveling anyway.

 

Not sure what will happen once UK leaves the EU, no doubt reciprocal health care agreements will stop.

 

Yes, it may not be fair that having paid private medical insurance for years and then no longer covered because of age but that's the way it is.   No doubt as the world gets more sick insurance premiums will rise.

 

"OP original comment " - Annual Insurance premiums in excess of $100k are not in my reach so my plan has always been to hop on the plane to the UK if taken seriously sick .   Do you mean insurance premium or cover ?     Do you mean dollar or baht ?    Just hop on a plane ... the airlines do not have to let you travel if they see you are sick.   A global rescue insurance may help but if you can't afford the 100k premium then it is probably out of reach.     What happens if there is another pandemic or similar that bars flights between certain countries, how would you hop on a plane then ?   It's an overall irresponsible attitude towards family, airlines, it's passengers and those concerned.

Hi Speedo, I have to pick up on your first sentence of non entitlement to NHS care for 3 months. IF, it is an emergency then NHS will treat you, in fact they will treat anyone from any country in an emergency. However, for a UK national, the hospital reserves the right to claim compensation. Some will and some won't, it depends on the hospital management. Further, while an inpatient, you may find your pension will be either withdrawn or cut considerably, again depending upon the hospital management. The same applies should you be imprisoned, your pension would definitely be withdrawn for the full term.   

1 hour ago, spiekerjozef said:

It's called Alzheimer.

First name required please????

7 hours ago, madmitch said:

I suppose the TAT statistician(s) have to do something but it surely is a total waste of time coming up with figures based on nothing but hypothesis and guesswork.

So, just more hot air to add to the all ready hot air we suffer each and every day. Well done Tt, you will be catching up with yourselves coming back at this rate.

8 hours ago, jojothai said:

He is most likely saying this just because he's been ordered to do this when he does not want too.

 

He may have also been ordered not to say anything foolish. ????

He may for sure find that very difficult.

7 hours ago, paddyfield7 said:

Resume breast-feeding for some years until he looses his baby face, then send him to the Army to become something closer to a man.

Which army do you suggest?

22 hours ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

Thank you Stephenterry! I thought however, that the dizziness is because of nocturia! 

The dizziness may be due to dehydration. Not drinking sufficient water, being worried about the night time problem. Plenty of water in the daytime but none after 7pm mat help?

1 hour ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

I see trouble ahead. The government will hit back with 'Hello Kitty' and stuffing will flow in the gutters........

Quite possibly, but who's stuffing will that be?

High apple pie in the sky hopes. Oops there goes. No, no, it ain't going to happen.

6 hours ago, mike787 said:

Alrighty, everyone begin packing, get out, and never come back you all are NOT wanted here in Thailand.  It's over, go find another place.

Ah! So, this is to be the new normal everyone is talking about?

1 hour ago, lee b said:

Forgot Licence not needed

Also forgot that correct and proper means of driving lessons and a test are not needed.

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Unfortunately if that is true then they have sealed there fate and will also be amongst the unemployed as the IO workforce can be reduced to just 15%

Yes, but would that mean we all have to travel further for the extensions we require? 

IF, and that's a very big IF, the Thais have developed a vaccine, they have done extremely well to do so in less than six weeks. We shall await developments.