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yogi100
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3 hours ago, Ron jeremy said:
The expat community in pattaya,( not all) tend to be getting on in age, and I really don't see them spending vast amounts. Basically surviving. The new tourist demographic is changing, squeezing out these people won't change much. Contrary to the people on this forum thinking that the western expats rule pattaya will have a rude awakining. The little people are slowly taking over.
Best learn some Mandarin, swaheely, and sharpen up on your chop stick skills.
A lot of Western expats have wives, girl friends and other loved ones so a lot of unseen cash filters through the system into the hands of Thai families. A falang husband is seen as a ticket to a life on Easy Street for a family in all parts of Thailand.
With a falang in the fold they can buy the houses, cars, land, tractors and motor bikes that they could hitherto only dream about.
The Thai tourist agencies never mention this because those families are of no consequence to the tour and hotel operators.
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3 hours ago, newnative said:Nice to start the day with a joke. '...the final nail in Pattaya's coffin'. 55555. No coffin that I can see--let alone any nails in it. Quite laughable that you think Pattaya's robust growth these past years has been because of British tourists and now that the Pound is sinking Pattaya will, too.
In reality, the growth continues. Several new, large condo projects have been announced to join those already under construction. Amari's all-suites hotel addition is done and the new Ozo Hotel next door is nearing completion. Several hotels are remodeling and adding features--such as A-01 on Beach Road. The city itself is finally doing some infrastructure work.
Recently I mentioned that in Wong Amat near Cape Dara an old low-rise resort on a large tract of land has been bulldozed and cleared. Drove by yesterday and saw construction fences going up and a sign announcing 'Grande Centre Point 2. From the photo it's a large high-rise hotel resort project. I guess Grande Centre Point at T21 is doing so well--even though Pattaya is apparently near death--that another hotel is on the way. If posters can tear themselves away from Soi 6 and Walking Street they'll see there's a lot positive going on.
There might be some fancy Amari and Ozo hotels and various condo blocks being built but who is going to pay good money to stay in them, they won't be cheap. And who is going to pay to fly thousands of miles and sometimes half the way around the world to get there.
These projects must have been started some time ago before the GBP and other currencies went down the gurgler.
Ex pats and holiday makers of all nationalities are considering going elsewhere in the future and as word gets around about how expensive Pattaya has become others will do likewise.
Pattaya is hardly the sort of place that's going to attract the Monte Carlo crowd is it.
Especially when they start hearing about strict visa requirements and respectable holiday makers getting refused entry at the airport.
Two things have always attracted people tp Pattaya and one of them is value for money. As the other attraction gets more expensive which it is doing what will Westerners, not just the British want to go there for.
It's unlikely to be for the crystal clear sea or the pristine beach.
Of my friends one regular visitor has decided to forego his regular November trip and an ex pat chum is currently in Vietnam checking it out.
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8 hours ago, kingdong said:Where's the "ample data" come from? Your mates in the building trade who have never had it so good?
Many of these lefties can trot out the claim that 'immigration benefits the economy' but they can't tell you why or whose economy has been benefited apart from that of employers.
More immigrants = more workers = smaller wages = bigger profits.
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33 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:
Again woefully short on facts, big on rhetoric. It takes on average 8 years for a refugee from outside the EU to complete the process you described. After that length of time they have settled in the country that they're in and the advantages of migrating again to the UK have dissappeard. The number of migrants entering the UK via the route you described are miniscule.
As for migrants from within the EU, there's ample data to prove that they are of net benefit to the UK economy.
Where is this 'ample data'. In the statistics relating to unemployment or economic inactivity.
Or perhaps in the health treatment waiting lists, or the figures regarding people claiming various benefits including those recently introduced in work benefits and those on zero hours contracts. Perhaps this data is available in the food banks?
How exactly do these EU migrants benefit the UK economy and which UK citizens find their economy has benefited from the presence of these migrants.
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8 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:Links or it's complete BS. most of my mates are in the building trade and they're doing fine.
What have American breakfast sausages got to do with Brexit?
Myself and 4 colleagues all lost our jobs in one day when the Eastern Europeans first arrived willing do do our work for just over half of the money we were getting.
We were just the forerunners of hundreds of thousands of Englishmen who went on to become victims of these scab workers and greedy unscrupulous employers especially in London.
The same fate awaits our younger generations when they try to enter the job market unless they are academically qualified.
I was approaching retirement so it did not overly affect me but it certainly affected my younger co workers. It still does now.
You obviously benefit from our membership of the EU, Joe Bloggs usually does not.
Mr Bloggs is rarely employed by the media nor works as politician nor owns a business so his voice is rarely heard apart from on that day in June 2016.
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1 hour ago, dunroaming said:It is true that the Labour Party was the party for the workers, hence their close relationship to the unions. I think that changed when Blair was elected and threw away the socialist handbook. The old Labour Party were dead in the water until Blair came along with his "New Labour" which was definitely right of centre when it came to it's political position.
But who is the British working man now? Some are in the manufacturing sector but that has shrunk beyond recognition and after Brexit likely to do so further. Mining has gone and steel workers are also losing their jobs on a regular basis. Many skilled workers are scratching about taking jobs that are way below the skill levels. Simply because those jobs are simply not there anymore. In Britain we are very resilient and adapt to situations when we have to.
Britain's strength now is in the service industry and that is where the future lies, so the ordinary working man will now be proficient in IT or electronics and have a much higher level of business acumen than in the past. But that doesn't help the skilled workers who spent years achieving their level of expertise only to have the rug whipped from under their feet. Most are too old or too resistant to re-training into a job that they really don't want to do.
This is not about people coming into the country and taking their jobs, those jobs just don't exist in Britain anymore. Of course many of them are bitter and to not have, at least, a political party that they feel represents them is way beyond depressing.
The livelihoods of many Britons in the building trade whose former jobs do still exist has been slaughtered by the arrival of literally millions of cheaper Eastern European manual workers.
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3 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:
Just to be clear; the reason for Brexit is immigration by people from outside the EU who do not share our culture, right?
And by people from inside the EU who are taking jobs that native Britons should be doing and have been doing for generations.
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3 hours ago, gamini said:
I don't think it's just brexit. The fault lies with the electorial system of first past the post. The country is presently ruled by the Conservative party who only got little over 30% of the vote. So we have a dictatorship of a minority elite. Pro-business, pro-rich with little regard for the average British working class man. Coalition governments are more fair even though somewhat unstable.
Which party represents the average British working class man. And how do you define the average British working class man.
It has not been the Labour Party for decades who are now basically just a party that appeals to left wing brainwashed university students and immigrants. It's policies are the complete opposite to that of the working class it's suppose to have its roots in.
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11 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:
You haven't noticed all the conflict? You haven't noticed that the multicultural brainwashing agenda has being forced down our throats for decades now? - I guess some people have swallowed it whole and actually think it is a fine thing, though of course it is now taboo even to hint that there might be anything wrong with it.
National and traditional values and culture is under threat in many countries - the UK, Sweden, Holland, France... what do you think the yellow-shirt movement is really all about in France? So many immigrants that local culture has been diluted and they constitute a political force of their own that agitates for even more multiculturalism - anything that brings down the indigenous culture is fine by them because it makes them feel more secure. There is an active, concerted campaign going on by leftists (immigrants and bleeding-hearts) to destroy western culture. Ordinary people have had enough and Brexit is one symptom. The situation is already beyond repair, but the EU needs to be dismantled as a matter of priority before it gets any worse.
I don't understand your rope analogy in this context. Nations can be allied in all sorts of ways, but the attempt to homogenise the entire European population - for this is the covert agenda of multiculturalism - will be disastrous.
Good post. Bang on the nail.
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8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
I'm so glad the supreme court trashed the constitution to bring these muppets back.
So far we've had one day of insults and a second day hand wringing about how bad they were on the first day.
Time to drain the swamp. Time for Corbyn to grow a pair and have an election.
They'd had time to sober up on the second day after getting drunk on our tax money!
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19 minutes ago, Yinn said:
Westerner ALREADY get free visa on arrival!!!
I did not say otherwise.
I was quoting BobBBK who commented on the subject.
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17 minutes ago, Basil B said:
Maybe one or two individuals have been quoted, but there again maybe just more fake news, but I do not think it is party policy.
A leading LibDem MP said that any further vote to leave would also be rejected by her party. This was yesterday or the day before.
She'll be more aware of what is LibDem party policy than you or I. They've been anti Brexit all along.
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2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:"Chinese for free' no racism there then
Racism and Nationalism as we call it comes naturally in Asia and other parts of the world and is part of the prevailing culture. It's a concept most of us in the West have been brainwashed into considering as unacceptable.
Therefore Thais are naturally going to accept Orientals more readily than us. It's expected because they are of the same race.
But like Japan and other Asian countries they don't accept immigrants whatever race they may belong to.
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48 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:
The Lib Dems have 18 out of 650 MPs. Not a lot they can do either way.
How many will they have in the future. You dunno, I dunno, no one knows.
According to the opinion polls because of the current mess we're in they'll get a whole lot more than they have now and possibly enough to be able to form another coalition. This time with Corbyn's Labour Party who actually did a lot better than expected in the last GE.
Labour are pretty much on the fence. Corbyn would jump at the chance of a partnership with the Libs even if it meant adopting an anti Brexit stance which the Libs would without doubt insist up as a condition to their joining forces. Corbyn wouldn't be bothered if it meant he'd be living in Number Ten.
With politicians like them waiting to pounce if they get the chance what would be the point of a second referendum if they won't respect the outcome. Will we have to keep 'voting till we get it right'?
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15 minutes ago, bannork said:
I would accept it, but the question on the referendum sheet would have to give clear cut choices, i.e leave with a deal passed by Parliament or remain.
If Parliament cannot agree then we remain.
I do believe the LibDems have said that if we do vote to leave again they still won't accept it.
It's not not cheap to have a referendum. The one in 2016 cost the tax payer 130 million quid.
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The uproar in parliament the other evening was largely drink fueled.
The subsidised bars in the HoC are open all day and cheaper than most nearby pubs.
You can even smoke in them and many of those who work there take full advantage of the fact including our MPs to whom we pay 80,000 quid a year to act in our interest. Many of us will remember George Brown who was paralytic most days by mid afternoon.
Drunken rowdyism has no place in parliamentary offices. The bars should be permanently closed. Little wonder some MPs are receiving death threats.
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40 minutes ago, bbi1 said:
So being an asian (Chinese.) with a western passport is safer than being a westerner when entering Thailand. Good to know ????
if you're Chinese Asian you'll probably be OK.
It's Mr White they seem to have an issue with.
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3 hours ago, Khon Kaen Jeff said:
I would just put it down to the blazer and wear something different next time.
It intrigues me why so many are desperate to come here all the time and even after being interrogated and made to feel like a criminal then want to come back and try again. Why, are the streets here paved with gold???
If it wasn't for my kids here I would have been gone long ago.
Come on, we all know why blokes visit Thailand. There is one reason and one reason alone and it's nothing to do with gold.
It's why some of us are more or less addicted to the place.
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2 hours ago, jacko45k said:
No, just means he sees Canada as 'home'..... and refers to it that way. In a way I still think of UK as 'home' and have not lived there for 4 decades.
Where in any of his posts does he indicate that he lives in Thailand. Many of us visit Thailand as a holiday destination a lot including myself but do not live let alone work there.
OP, clear this up please where do you live, where is your regular home?
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3 hours ago, bbi1 said:
So being an asian on multiple METV's but holding a western passport gives a good chance of not getting rejected as opposed to being a westerner?
Actually Donnacha did refer to a trend against Westerners. He did not mention Asians.
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3 hours ago, Yeahbutwhytho said:
Just because you're stuck here doesn't mean others have to be, some have the means to travel 365 days of the year.. you shouldn't be so envious and try be less bitter me thinks
'me thinks'
How old are you, three?
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4 hours ago, stevenl said:
They do want him here, but on the right visa. People living here should be on non-immigrant, not on tourist visa.
According to his post he does not live 'here' if by 'here' you mean Thailand.
He said he wanted to go back home. To Canada. That would indicate that he actually lives in Canada rather than 'here'.
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8 hours ago, Davo369 said:
Then when i arrived back at uk last week my passport wouldn't process through the electronic scanner, so emigration called me over to there desk and question me for 20 minutes on why i can afford to go away for long periods of time. I said i have all day to answer your questions had a fantastic sleep on plane in business class ????. Fxxxking cheek of it
It just goes to show you what is gradually becoming of what used to be our country.
I once got the third degree from a female sub continental customs 'officer' at LHR for the best part of an hour. She turned my baggage insiode out and then even asked me if I had child or animal porn on my laptop and took it away to check it.
And yet we bitch about the LOS.
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8 hours ago, riclag said:
They are targeting younger aged individuals ,30-45.
I totally sympathize with you, it's not fair.
The IO have gone to far especially when you already were given a visa from the Thai embassy.
Of course that's my opinion
I hope you get a answer that helps you
Good luck
The friend that I referred to in post number 2 is 58.
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If you think pattaya is dead now .. check out this
in Pattaya
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I was there in '84 and we were getting 32 for our quid. I remember that distinctly because it was my first ever trip to the LOS.