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I wanna confirm that it says 2012 in year of make. But the date of registration is 2013. But the year of make of this bike is 2013 isn't? ?

Your a bit confused

When speaking about a vehicle there are many terms

You are asking the date of manufacture.....Then of course if sold in early 2013 it will likely be 2012

How else can they sell a bike in Jan 2013 if not?

BUT......That is not the same as the Model Year which is 2013 or 2556

So it is a Honda Model 2013 CBR500r

Date of Manufacture will of course likely be in 2012 if bought in the first half of 2013

That does not make it any less a 2013 Model

Date of manufacture is not the same as Model Year for bikes or cars etc.

Lastly you will also have date of FIRST Registration which in your case of course will also be 2013/2556

Yeah that's what I thought. If anyone here got 2013 in their book please state it here. Thx.

You may not have 2013 in your green book on page 4 but how about page 5?

Does it show a Thai Month & the year 2556? If so that is 2013

If it shows 2055 then 2012

Also on page 4 upper left corner may have 2556 after day & month in Thai also which is date of reg ( วันจดทะเบียน )

It would not affect your resale price as there is no such bike as a 2012 CBR500 X or F etc

I'm gonna try to ask my gf or someone in my buildings office to read it for me so I can check it out.

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You dont have too as numbers are in English

Yes but Buddhist Year so look for 2556 or 2555....Which do you see?

so due to a harsh and high vibrating engine, they have to rubber mount it.

So, instead of developing a smoother engine with less vibration - this way they can use it as a stressed member so can go for a lighter aluminum frame - they have chosen to go with the old tech engine with rubber mounts therefore additional steel braces for an already heavy steel frame.

Bravo kawa! Is that what we deserve in Thailand? C'mon!

Actually that rubber mounting is standard now on many bikes.

Does not mean it is a bad bike or build in any way.

Actually that Kawa Z800 is getting very good reviews.

Not really my cup of tea but a nice bike with a nice tone

Yeah that's what I thought. If anyone here got 2013 in their book please state it here. Thx.

You may not have 2013 in your green book on page 4 but how about page 5?

Does it show a Thai Month & the year 2556? If so that is 2013

If it shows 2055 then 2012

Also on page 4 upper left corner may have 2556 after day & month in Thai also which is date of reg ( วันจดทะเบียน )

It would not affect your resale price as there is no such bike as a 2012 CBR500 X or F etc

Although for F1 cars pretty interesting to see how carbon disc are made

At this Bangkok Bank webpage on fixed accounts they address the multiple deposits to the same fixed savings account...look on the right hand side of the page for below quote/cut & paste:

Do you know?

You can add multiple deposits to the same account. This gives you the advantage of not having to carry more than one passbook. If you add your deposits over a period of time they will mature at different times which gives you more flexibility when it comes to withdrawing your money.

Yes that is true & also if you want to make the multiple deposits into the same account on the same day that is also fine.

So maturity on all are the same but you have the option of breaking just a fraction of a time deposit not the whole if you should

suddenly find you need some of those funds back before maturity.

This small article explains the weight pretty good.

http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/kawasaki-z800#

The topic that this post was moved from had many people highlighting "Assist" and the latter posts about it said the company had begun to charge 1500 baht for the 90-day reports for those not using them also to do the annual extensions.

Actually what it was is they started charging more for "new" customers.

Not customers that did not do their annual with them.

As I only have them do my 90 days & do my annual myself.

But because I started with them before they became popular ( wish I had kept my mouth shut )

They still charge me 1000 THB per year or 1000 for 4/90 day reports

My main caution is the lack of bond that the company has responsibility that if failed does not end up in my being at risk with the folks at immigration. ... secondarily to what happens to my data in outside hands, and down at third as to the price (in its current price range)

Well yes I guess I could worry about such things although TIT & even buying a condo/car etc does not afford the protections many of us westerners are use to.

Be that as it may I do not see such risks in 90 day reporting. They do them for me ahead of time. If they for some reason did not I guess I could be charged 2k baht fine. But considering the numbers of happy customers I am not worried.

Secondly as to giving out info? I sign 4/90 day reports same as anyone else.

If you mean the visa service is somehow selling my info or misusing it in some way....I cannot imagine it being of any use to anyone.

Not to mention have you ever looked on the back of any scrap papers Immigration themselves use?

There you will find much interesting reading about others

Down at third as to price, as I said for me it is 1000 baht per year or 4/90 day reports I do not have to do.

Yes 2.7 baht a day I can part with no problem. Although even if I were one of the customers paying 1500 THB a year I would gladly pay the 4.1 baht per day

As others have said they enjoy the task then I would not be asking them why they do not use an agent.

But really,,,, risk element, as some say, or price elements,, I do not see nor have any fears/problems in this regard.

Is the 450,000 in the picture the price it will be? If so then a lot more than elsewhere which is surprising as made in Thailand.

Well I think in this size their main competition is only the Ducati 795 Monster?

Also made in Thailand & roughly the same size.

Ducati Thailand has done away with the Non-ABS Monster 795 so their cheapest

Thai bike is 440k

But yes would be great if they priced it down from there.

And I think they do retail in the UK for 7500 GBP equal to 350k THB

But the 650N is 291k now & the Z1000 is 660k

My guess is yes it will be right in that Ducati price range

Maybe just under 400k if they want to spike it but they may shoot themselves in the foot

for 650 sales.

you can see the bike graveyard at Honda Bigwing as well and that number of damaged bikes are rising on my every visit!!!

...and half of these are going to be sold after they get fixed

If there are buyers.

How low does one have to price a H500 or K650 just to sell it nowadays!

2011 N650 with 25k km can't go on bahtsold @ only 165k baht.

2012 N250 decked out with 25k baht of extras @ 105k baht.

The guy on here with a new H500 can't shift it for 190k.

Saturated market.

Is true & somewhat a Thai deal too because of the fact Thai's dont have the lump cash & like to finance.

Financing a new bike is very easy.

But also in regards to the two Kawasaki's you mentioned those are both pre-big change years.

The 2012 650 went to a much better dual seat look & the 2013 250 that is like a whole different bike from the 2012

The Honda 500's will be interesting to see what they fetch price wise. My guess would be 170-180k

The funny thing with many sellers here is how they like to list registration & insurance costs.

2nd hand buyers dont care that you paid that & that is not something you can pass off easily.

If you want insurance money ride it till it expires.

Only in Thailand do I see sellers list every thing they ever did to the bike then try & get most of it back

including insurance & reg heheheh

The only thing worse is all the Thai's with bad financing looking for someone to take over payments + give them back

their deposits. The totals on these are always higher than a new bike for gods sake

I wouldn't go as far as saying the "best in C.M." O.K. but nothing special.

Well of course taste is a personal thing but for us it is the Best in CM

If you know of anywhere that is better we would be glad to give them a try too.

We have tried Dukes, Koh Lanta but none have come close to Mama Mia

I use to work at a pizzeria decades ago where we flipped out own dough & the owner learned

in Italy as Joe at Mama Mia's did similar crust I would say

For me good crust has a certain smell & texture. Slightly salty taste hard to describe as I am not good

at describing food but I do know good when I taste it

But I should also add I eat the Salami Pizza at Mama Mia's

True. But in many countries they have a tiered bike license to try and alleviate these problems. Admittedly many of the broken bikes are actually the lower part of the tiered system

But they do have better training.

True about the tiered license

I am from the USA & folks can walk in & buy anything they want.

Kind of scary but to be fair folks with cash can also go buy a Ferrari

Like you say these are low power ( relatively ) yet still plenty capable of

letting things happen very fast for new riders.

Really, the tuning part is not my primary interest as I already have the PC in place, but I've read so many comments re: opening the secondaries earlier- it's supposed to transform the bike- at 7750rpm, it makes ~25hp and 35lb/ft over the stock settings (though peak power is about the same), and several of the other features will come in handy as well, though they don't really affect performance.

That is so funny to read.

It is all relative I guess.

But that bump is adding almost my total 250 HP heheheh

Googled a bit about g-forces for jet-pilots and astronauts and then you realize he IS a lucky guy surviving 25 G.

As said before curious to see what an advanced safety jacket like this would look like(and cost:w00t: ), if I google

something on this, will post it here

Funny you mention that as G forces & flying always sticks in my mind.

Years ago I flew & as a private pilot felt mild G forces like 2 & know what that feels like.

Try to lift a arm to cover your forehead when it weighs twice as much

But yes 25G's is an insane amount

Fighter pilots need to endure 9 G's in a test maybe more theses days? Without losing consciousness

But........Something needs to be pointed out here.

That telemetry was done by Alpinestars suit sensors & they are playing it up a bit to show how

great their suits are.

But the truth is getting whacks or bump velocity that reach the number they did is not the same

as enduring those G's

Theirs are like shocks/bumps

Pilots etc are strapped in a chair that is enduring those G's for a period. Which is why they have the G suits that squeeze

their legs when it senses X amount of G's. To push that blood back up to their head so they dont pass out.

You know show pilots like the Blue angels cannot wear those suits?

Because when they pump up they will move the pilots hand & the angels are flying tight formations & it could

cause them to bump into each other. The suits expand & contract as needed many times during high G flights for normal fighter pilots.

The kind of high G Marc had was spot G's not prolonged.

Still awesome though to consider getting off at that speed.

I have come off bikes doing 80-100mph racing flat track & it is a weird sensation. You always think your able to stand

then suddenly your sucked again & again into tumbles because the truth is your not stopped at all even though your brain

thinks you are. In his telemetry chart you can see that. He banged then went again & again

They really should include basic big bike training as a corporate responsibility before selling.

After all they are all future customers as well as present customers.

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You know it is like this all over the world.

Bikes in general just have a good power to weight ratio.

Actually it is a worse situation

in other countries as bikes are so much cheaper & faster/bigger

I use to manage a Suzuki shop many years ago.

Folks would come in even then & have no clue about the power they were buying.

Then they get out there & get going way too fast for their skill set.

and once you are in for a little, you'll likely be in forever more... at whatever the market will bear.

My goodness, It is a business not a drug. It is non addicting & if the price

is uncomfortable for you then you can always choose to stop buying the service.

Sorry but it never ceases to amaze me the things I read here about things like this visa service.

If something is appealing/useful to you then use it if not don't.

Same goes for restaurants, laundry services, transportation etc. etc. etc.

None begrudge anyone of their right to self service themselves in any way they like.

Whether that be cooking, cleaning, doing your visa, driving yourself anywhere etc.

But to say if you hire any of these that "you'll likely be in forever more"

That is a bit dramatic

This is a demo of the tuning system:

You know that does not look unlike Bazzaz Z-FI Mapper software which you can download for free.

Load a map & play with it all offline to see how it works.

It will try to communicate initially with device.

Just wait then work offline

I did & downloaded the maps for 250 & 300 just to look & play with it.

Go download it & play a bit

http://www.bazzaz.net/index.php/software-overview

Edit: oops sorry I see they have no ZX14R maps yet in their data base

Although you could try it anyway with other maps just to see how the interface works etc.

August! <deleted>!!! If it's been available in Oz, the USA and Europe for months why the wait?

According to the Thai web boards it is to build parts inventories

Which is a good because we often read about guys going in for their first service only to find

they have not even received oil filters etc for some brands of bikes we have seen sold here

Yes that is at the dealership in Chiang Mai

Was looking at the same pile a week ago.

I also looked at it back in January when it was only 3 or so bikes.

Talking with the owner he said mainly young guys.

Get in over their heads/skills

What I did have to smile at was that at that time they

mainly had the blessing marks on them. You know the strings or the white marks

on the wind screens.

At first I thought well.........I guess that did not help but then I thought

well maybe the rider walked away unharmed so maybe it did

In either case this does make insurance for the N250 kind of pricey as it is graded as a group/bike

Full coverage is almost 10k a year

Oh we are in a good one right now on Changklan...pouring with winds howling !!

2pm Wed

There is a lot of noise on Thai forums tonight.

As far as I can tell they are saying yes the Z800 will be released here out of Rayong by August/Sept

hmmmm

Here are a couple

http://pantip.com/topic/30564389

http://www.z800thailand.com/forum/index.php/topic,253.0.html