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Uncivilized country, religious beliefs is hanging from their necks, nothing left to support any form of morality. Scamming, these people have always been at it....
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Oh.... So you found an exception that would confirm the rule.... Much obliged....
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Ok, better question. Makes me understand more also... hehe Well after your question, I looked back to identify where this cutting-in happens. It does not happen where people can assess how much time the customer will get from a store clerk. So does not happen in mini-marts for example, where everybody choose a line, where they assessed a reasonable time that they will have to spend in line. Exception is when another clerk will open another cash, then Thais will definitely try to obtain first access, ignoring other customers in front of them. But this seems always acceptable, as it is not an obvious sigh of impoliteness. But I would typically tell a person in front of me to go first, saying 'Khun yuu gawn', you were here before me. I do not think that Thais would do that. Now in open markets, Thais selling clothes, for example, where people can start discussing about a piece of clothing with the seller, where the expected time is unclear, I have often being interrupted by a Thai, hijacking the attention of the seller. I even discussed this with a seller that I have become friendly with, and she replied, 'yes, Thais are like that (in her type of service perhaps), and she even said that once, a Thai came to park his motorbike in-between two racks of her clothing that she displays for sale. Too few parking spaces left... Once I got interrupted by a middle-aged lady, and when I confronted her about it, saying that I was not finished, she backed up a bit. And some 15 seconds later, she came back between me and the seller to try to hijack again the attention of the seller. In two different shops, the sellers turned back towards me and signified that her attention was for me. And they do not accept that... trying again. And mainly Thai women in my experience, in these clothing stores...
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Load of nonsense what you write... Nobody said that most Thais are cutting in line. It is just that there are just too many, such as I have never seen in my country anyway. And then someone else starting a post on this subject, so certainly not just a few Thais who do that. I had quite a few do that to me, to my greatest surprise. I remember in Plakias Crete, a German saleslady told me that many Greek people did that also... And again, not most of them, so you get to understand.
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A few traits that are part of the culture in Thailand comes into play here. First, Thais are very very selfish. The list of examples are just too numerous to make a list here now. So this will make them just hijack the attention of a person, to affirm the selfishness. Now the person whose attention has been hijacked, a salesperson perhaps, will automatically give his or her attention to the hijacker, because failure to do so would make the hijacker lose face. One heck of a no no here in Thai culture. Then as foreigner, it is incumbent upon us to call out the hijack, since the Thai individual is more likely to take a bow, as he, or she, instinctively knows that foreigners are not part of this culture... And while doing so, they strangely still totally ignore the person that they are trying to sidestep... Of course, for any foreigner, it is total lack of respect, total impoliteness. Thais may never understand that....
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But the consequence of getting a 'retirement extension' from a remote location, would mean that the IO doing a 90 day for example, would be required to do that 'free' work, while knowing very well that a non-local IO got a share of the money for the initial 'extension' work. Not happy with that. So some Agents who deal with a non-local IO, for whatever reason, will offer a free service of obtaining all 90 day reports from the IO that was used to obtain the 'retirement visa'. This of course would entail having to send the passport again and again through mail to obtain the 90 day stamps. So one could always go again to the same Agent, who will offer the service of obtaining 90 days stamps. This Agent does it by mailing the passport to this remote location, Nakhon Sawan, for example. The remote office will offer the service of 90 days stamps, since this office obtained originally the large fee to obtain the retirement visa. So ideally, if possible, find an Agent who is able to obtain IO services locally.
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Hi, just thinking that I might have read wrongly the intent of your post. The last question, one of those, perhaps was just a question, and not a sarcasm... If I was wrong then I apologize. And I am posting some information on the use of Agents. That sometimes is the only way to obtain a reasonable service. " Re-posting this one here... Seems like you might need this knowledge as well..... "Well yes, in this land, situations are mostly related to money and territory. I am located in Phuket, and there are many Agents who offer a service of dealing with an IO on a customer behalf, for a fee. And this fee is shared between the Agent, and at a very high level at the IO, then further shared... And strangely, some of the Agents are able to conduct their business directly with the local IO, while others go through a remote IO, such as Nakhon Sawan. Now why is that, I have no idea. Appears like Agents must be 'accredited' for the use of such a service at a given IO. And those Agents who appear to not be able to be accredited locally here, are always able to find a remote IO that is willing to offer such a service to Agents. But the consequence of getting a 'retirement extension' from a remote location, would mean that the IO doing a 90 day for example, would be required to do that 'free' work, while knowing very well that a non-local IO got a share of the money for the initial 'extension' work. Not happy with that. So some Agents who deal with a non-local IO, for whatever reason, will offer a free service of obtaining all 90 day reports from the IO that was used to obtain the 'retirement visa'. This of course would entail having to send the passport again and again through mail to obtain the 90 day stamps. Something that of course anyone would like to avoid. An IO can tell what process was originally used to obtain a service, through a quick glance at the passport. That is what they do for a living. A few seconds will do it... And to add to the complexity of this situation, once a foreigner has used an Agent, the IO will try as they can to keep this individual to keep on putting money in the system. Lots of money in there. Trying to do further 'retirement extensions' on your own, at the lower fee of course, will get you to be faced with all sorts of problems, being raised by the IO, to make the process as long and difficult as possible. With the aim of breaking you down and getting you back at an Agent's office, and paying the bigger fee. If one is intent on not paying for an Agent, make sure that your income taxes are in order in your country, make sure that your embassy will offer a service of confirming your income, and accept to be patient time and time again when you are told that "Oh, the for that you used is an out-dated one. Use this one, and come back some other day..... I was initially forced to go see an Agent, after the onset of the Covid era, with airport closed here, borders of neighboring countries closed, so not being able to leave the country to extend my OA visa, and not being able to stay in the country, as my visa would soon expire. 2019, 2020. When I explained that at the IO, I was told that there was nothing that they could do. The law was written this way. Then I was told in a whisper, go see an Agent, they will fix it up for you. And Agent, Oh yes."
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Well perhaps, but not in Phuket town.... In Phuket town, it is not a fact.... But IO will do their best to make one go through an Agent, for known reasons....
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Well, in so many instances, posts do not come across as 'ideas' and 'opinions', they look to me more as using vitriolic words and claiming that they are facts...
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You are putting me in situation where I have to repeat myself: You are very uninformed. Not sure if it worth it provide the info that you are missing, and not sure if you are interested in finding out more about the subject.... The way people write show if they possess critical thinking or not. I think you know in which category you belong..
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You are very uninformed. Not sure if it worth it provide the info that you are missing, and not sure if you are interested in finding out more about the subject....
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Road safety appeal amid surge of New Year holidaymakers in Thailand
Andre0720 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
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Thai Woman Robbed of 32,000-Baht Gold Necklace on Pattaya Walking Street
Andre0720 replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
For some reason, she wanted to show that she already had a boyfriend.... -
Monk Dies, 37 People Injured after Bus Crash in Northeastern Thailand
Andre0720 replied to webfact's topic in Isaan News
A monk also. Reading between the lines... "Please do not rely on Buddha and luck, just not a reliable source for longevity". -
Foreign man arrested for sexually harassing teenage Thai girl
Andre0720 replied to webfact's topic in Bangkok News
Why discuss something that it appears we know nothing about...... -
Should farangs be banned from tennis courts?
Andre0720 replied to Chris Daley's topic in ASEAN NOW Community Pub
And which of the LGBTQ++++ is your preference... -
Agree, his inaptness is definitely underestimated....