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GroveHillWanderer

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  1. Well, it does mean that there's absolutely no possibility that the vaccine itself could cause an infection, while with a whole, inactivated virus vaccine that is a theoretical possibility - if the inactivation process doesn't do it's job properly. However I don't think that's happened with any vaccine since the tragic and infamous Cutter incident that affected one batch of the polio vaccine back in 1955.
  2. While it's impossible to rule things out completely, as I just mentioned above the whole idea of a vaccine having a long term side effect is basically at odds with the principles of human biology. Vaccines work by stimulating the immune system into destroying the components they are made of, leaving nothing behind that could cause adverse effects years down the road. In fact, mRNA vaccines are if anything, even less likely to have long term effects. This is because mRNA is notoriously unstable and tends to break down all by itself very quickly. Indeed, this has been one of the major hurdles in using mRNA technology - how to get it to remain intact in the body long enough to have any effect whatsoever. It's why for instance, the mRNA vaccines must be kept at much lower temperatures than other types. At normal room temperatures (and certainly at body temperature) mRNA just doesn't last very long.
  3. Untrue - there is virtually no chance of any long term adverse side effects with a vaccine. There is in fact no known biological mechanism that could cause them. See the quotes below: Is Old Vaccine Technology the Key to Hesitancy? Vaccines work by mimicking the structure of the virus, thereby causing the body's immune system to create and mobilise antibodies and T cells to destroy what they perceive as a foreign, possibly harmful invader. Once that immune response has taken place and done its job, there's literally nothing left of the vaccine in the body. Unless you believe in the principles of homeopathy, that say that mere memory of a substance can stimulate a response, there's no way a substance that no longer exists in the body can cause an adverse effect, no matter how many years you wait. If you think vaccines could have long term adverse effects, please explain how you think that would come about.
  4. 94% of UK adults are not vaccinated. According to figures from the Office of National Statistics, about 79% of adults have been fully vaccinated in the UK. And anyway, most of the recent Delta variant cases are in the unvaccinated, including many in the under 18 age range. As mentioned in the Guardian article below: Doctors warn over increasing number of young people with Covid in ICU And being double jabbed almost certainly will save you since only a very small percentage of people who are fully vaccinated, are being hospitalised or dying.
  5. Try reading the article. She is visiting (and so probably staying with) her parents. And even if she wasn't staying with them originally, that's almost certainly what she'll do if she stays on.
  6. As far as I'm aware, TM6 forms are no longer required either for entry or exit. The information is all computerised now. Immigration Overhaul – TM6 Disappearing
  7. If they're like the ones used in the Tokyo Olympics, then the answer is - probably as much as many regular beds. Why are athletes at the Tokyo Olympics sleeping on cardboard beds? Here's a video showing athletes jumping up and down on them with no effect. https://youtu.be/QN27I_mP5BM
  8. No, they don't. Vaccinated people have a much lower chance of being infected than the unvaccinated. In Massachusetts, where they had a highly-publicised outbreak with a high percentage of vaccinated people involved, the state health authorities released figures showing that in the state as a whole, only 0.18% of fully vaccinated people had had a "breakthrough" infection as of July 31. No, Most COVID Infections Are Not Occurring in Vaccinated People
  9. Completely different scenarios. You are clearly part of the Phuket Sandbox scheme which is only available to vaccinated people. The OP is unvaccinated and in ASQ.
  10. Of course vaccinated people can still become infected - we've always known that. The fact is though, that the chances of a vaccinated person being infected are much, much lower. For instance, in Massachusetts where the media were freaking out about an outbreak among vaccinated people, figures released by the state health authorities showed that despite that, only: No, Most COVID Infections Are Not Occurring in Vaccinated People
  11. Province: Prachuapkhirikhan Date: 23 August, 2021 Location (name of hospital or other) Hua Hin Hospital Are you over 60 - Yes Chronically ill? - No How did you register? In person @ BlúPort Mall Vaccination received (yes/no) Yes If yes, Type of vaccine : AstraZeneca (2nd dose, 1st was SinoVac) By next day, digital certificate available on Mor Phrom app or via Line
  12. That's an article about clinical trials for therapeutic medicines, not vaccines. Vaccines and therapeutics are two completely different classes of drugs and there are different considerations for them. For instance, therapeutic drugs can remain in a person's body for a long time and the repeated doses that are often taken, can cause levels to build up over time. That's why the initial phase 3 trials usually go on for years, and why longer term follow up on phase 4 is also needed to look out for longer term adverse effects. Vaccine phase 3 trials only need to go on for long enough to show safety and efficacy. As far as safety goes, it's a question of having enough people to reveal any rare side effects that only show up in a larger population group. There's no safety-related reason for vaccine trials to go on for years because with vaccines (unlike therapeutics) any adverse effects occur within the first few weeks after administration. No vaccine has ever been shown to have long term side effects, mainly because there's no biological mechanism that could cause them. See the different quotes below from scientists illustrating this. Is Old Vaccine Technology the Key to Hesitancy?
  13. I'm not sure why this says, "Finally some good news ..." Hua Hin Hospital has been vaccinating foreigners for over a month now. I just got my second shot yesterday.
  14. Sinopharm is only for people who registered via the municipality, or whose companies who have paid for it. Pfizer only for expats who have registered via the expatvac website.
  15. There is no standard of "4 to 5 years normally" for vaccine clinical trials. The standard for completing a successful clinical trial is gathering enough data to show both efficacy and safety. There is no prescribed time period that is required for that data to be gathered. For the CoViD-19 vaccines, the yardstick was finding enough people in the trials who contracted the disease, for the results to be statistically significant. So it was based on number of infections, not the time it took. In the past, total development time from the beginning of the preliminary research to final, full approval could take 5 years (sometimes even 10 years or more). However much of that was in trying to find a vaccine that worked at all, even in a lab. Older vaccine development methods involved trying to find a way to damage or disable the original virus enough that it couldn't cause disease, while still leaving enough of it intact to elicit a robust immune response. For very many years, this was basically a hit and miss process. Years would be spent, just to find a vaccine that was suitable to even start human trials. Because of the advances in vaccine technology in recent years, it no longer takes years and years to find a candidate for human clinical trials. This is especially true of the mRNA and viral vector vaccines. All that was needed for them, was a copy of the genetic code for the virus and a vaccine could be (and was) designed within a couple of days, that was highly likely to be effective in lab and animal trials and could then move on into human trials without spending the years finding a viable candidate that it used to take in the past. It's also true, though to a lesser extent, of inactivated virus vaccine technology, as precise molecular biology techniques are available nowadays that disable the exact parts of the virus that a successful vaccine requires, with hardly any trial and error involved. Also, in the past the different trial phases were spread out, with sometimes 6 months to a year (or more) between them, mainly because there was no ongoing global pandemic of a novel virus with no therapeutics available and so no particular need to move quickly. As a prominent virologist said recently (I'm paraphrasing), asking why these vaccines could be created in under a year when it used to take 5 or more, is like asking why we can now cross the Atlantic in hours when it used to take weeks in the 1800's. Just as transportation technology has improved and speeded things up, so has vaccine technology.
  16. According to the post from @jerrymahoney above, that claim is mistaken and she actually opposed relying on Siam Bioscience alone.
  17. Strange, that's exactly what people said when it was stuck at around 2,000 cases for a while, then when it was 3,000, then 4,000. It wasn't true then because in each case, it subsequently went higher, so I'm not sure why it should be true now.
  18. They shouldn't be included if you want to keep the data of consistent quality. Rapid antigen test kits are notoriously unreliable and need a follow-up PCR test to confirm. Or at least if you're going to include them, they should be listed separately. But then I suppose you'd have to remove them if the PCR test comes back negative - so again you'd be having problems with data consistency, numbers going up and down etc. Best sticking to one standard of measurement, if you ask me.
  19. I haven't seen anything saying a single dose of AZ is highly protective against the Delta variant - in fact everything I've seen says pretty much the opposite. As the BMJ paper linked to below says, it takes two doses of either AZ or Pfizer to get good protection against Delta, whereas: Covid-19: Two vaccine doses are crucial for protection against delta, study finds
  20. No, they weren't, not if by "vaccinated" you mean fully vaccinated, i.e. people who had had their 2nd dose of vaccine more than two weeks before getting sick. Those who died and were fully vaccinated (with their 2nd dose of AZ at least a couple of weeks beforehand) represented only 0.6% of the fatalities.
  21. Sorry, but it's just not true that all people over 60 got the AZ vaccine. At least here in Hua Hin they started implementing the government policy of SinoVac for the 1st dose and AstraZeneca for the second (and for all nationalities and age groups) starting around the 3rd week in July. On the day I got my first dose (see vaccination record card below) they vaccinated around 1,500 people with SinoVac who were mostly over 60 as far as I could tell - and should have been anyway, based on the eligibility criteria when they were giving the appointments. Certainly, all the people I knew personally were over 60.
  22. It'd be kind of hypocritical if they didn't, given that Canada has been using a mixture of AZ and either Pfizer or Moderna for some time now. Canada recommends mixing and matching AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines
  23. Clearly a typo. The article itself uses the word "reopening," which is obviously what it should have been in the heading.
  24. Then you haven't been going through the daily figures. As others have mentioned, they frequently include foreigners of various nationalities.
  25. Although as I mentioned earlier, antibiotics are a completely different class of medicine and so are not directly comparable to vaccines, I should perhaps point out that it is also possible (or even sometimes recommended) to mix them. For instance, in order to treat the common stomach bacteria helicobacter pylori, the standard treatment involves a combination therapy of two or three different antibiotics - plus a proton pump inhibitor and an antacid. The idea of mixing vaccines is based on sound scientific principles and has been used with vaccines for a number of different diseases in the past. The human immune system is an incredibly complex biological mechanism and consists of multiple different parts. No one vaccine can hope to stimulate all parts of it equally. For instance, as mentioned in the article linked to below, in reference to the AZ vaccine with its adenovirus vector technology: Mix-and-match COVID vaccines As the article goes on to point out, by mixing and matching these two types of vaccine, you are getting the best of both worlds. So, while it's true that the specific combination of vaccines other than AZ and Pfizer does not have enough clinical trial data yet, it doesn't make sense to just dismiss the whole idea out of hand, since it makes a lot of logical, scientific sense and has a proven track record. Also, the CoViD-19 vaccines currently being used are not experimental. Experimental would mean they are still undergoing testing (test and experiment being synonyms). All the CoVid-19 vaccines in use have completed the full range of required clinical test phases. The only ones that can be described as experimental are the ones such as Novavax and CureVac, that are still in the trial phase and have not been authorized for use yet.
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