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In 1990 I think it was, on one of my many trips to Thailand, when I arrived I was 15 3/4 stone, when I went home 3 months later I was 11 1/2 stone. I was so thin my missus walked straight past me at the airport and all my mates thought I'd caught aids. I hadn't by the way.

Redshirts Warn Senate Not To Invoke Article 7

By Khaosod English

Senate Speaker Surachai Liangboonlertchai welcoming PCAD leader Suthep Thaugsuban into the House of Parliament to discuss plans for an appointed PM, 12 May 2014.

BANGKOK — The Redshirts have issued yet another threat to stage a massive uprising if the Senate accepts anti-government protesters' demand for an appointed Prime Minister.

Speaking to a crowd of pro-government supporters on the third day of their rally at Aksa Avenue in western Bangkok, Redshirt leader Jatupon Prompan criticised Senate Speaker Surachai Liangboonlertchai’s decision to meet in person with the leader of anti-government movement inside the House of Parliament yesterday.

Suthep Thaugsuban, leader of the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD), was given a grand welcome at the Parliament - despite the arrest warrants on Mr. Suthep - and was granted a private audience with Mr. Surachai for nearly an hour. Journalists were not allowed to observe their discussion.

Mr. Suthep has been urging the Senate to appoint a new Prime Minister with a royal endorsement from His Majesty the King. Mr. Suthep claims this move is legal under Article 7 of the Thai Constitution.

The government has dismissed the proposal as unconstitutional and insisted that the caretaker PM, Niwatthamrong Boonsongphaisarn, will stay on until the next election on July 20.

A number of appointed Senators have voiced their support for Mr. Suthep’s plan, leading pro-government supporters to suspect that the Senate may soon vote to appoint an unelected PM.

In his speech today, Mr. Jatupon said Senators risk becoming the servants of Mr. Suthep. The Redshirt leader lambasted Mr. Surachai for "conspiring" with Mr. Suthep in a bid to oust the elected government.

"Mr. Surachai has lost his dignity. He is no gentleman. He should know that Thais must live under the laws," Mr. Jatupon said.

Mr. Jatupon also challenged Mr. Surachai to reveal his true colours by granting Mr. Suthep's wish for the Senate to vote on an appointed PM.

"We UDD [the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship] like challenges. If Mr. Surachai is confident that Mr. Suthep can protect him, then he should just go for a royally-appointed PM under Article 7."

While Mr. Jatupon stressed that the Redshirts will hold their position on Aksa Avenue, he confirmed that they will immediately "escalate" their rally and possibly march to central Bangkok if the Senate invokes Article 7.

"So will the Senate use Article 7? Let us know soon. When Mr. Suthep is about to move, the UDD will move as well," Mr. Jatupon said to a loud cheer by the Redshirts.

Mr. Jatupon also questioned why Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha, commander-in-chief of the Royal Thai Army, has not ordered the troops to vacate the Government House even though Mr. Suthep has announced his plan to seize the compound as his new "office."

"Why is Gen. Prayuth letting his subordinates accommodate the rebels?” Mr. Jatupon asked. “The military lets Mr. Suthep enter and use the area inside the Government House, they claim that they didn't want any clash. If one day Mr. Suthep is so arrogant that he wants to use the headquarters of the Royal Thai Army as his office, does it mean he can do so?"

Although Mr. Surachai has not openly stated his views on invoking Article 7, pro-government protesters suspect that he is highly sympathetic to the idea because of his backing from the appointed Senators - a pro-establishment faction in the Senate considered to be hostile to the current government.

Mr. Suthep has announced that he will give the Senate until the end of this week to decide on the invocation of Article 7. When the ultimatum expires, Mr. Suthep has said he will appoint himself as "Sovereign Body" and directly seek a royal intervention.

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1399972152&section=11

-- Khaosod English 2014-05-13

"Senate Speaker Surachai Liangboonlertchai welcoming PCAD leader Suthep Thaugsuban into the House of Parliament to discuss plans for an appointed PM, 12 May 2014."

I seriously can not believe they did that, senators openly associating with a wanted criminal. Isn't anybody going to uphold the law in this crazy fecked up country?

I heard there where some issues regarding payments. It could be the reason less people showed up.

They have even used the joker: Robert Amsterdam.

You two are good. The coordination is excellent. Whatever you're getting, you're worth more. Black propaganda is hard to do, harder to do well. This is A-Prime-Top-Value stuff, so make sure that's what you get.

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Please stop trolling.

You first!

"but hesitated when they discovered that he was packing heat."

Holy Moses! I've been trapped in a time warp, "book him Danno"

It is a special case!

This lunatic should have been taken off the streets months ago!

This lunatic should have been taken off the streets months ago!

so the PTP party could still ripp of the Thai people

Yingluck witll still be in power and control Thailand for her brother

all my dear friend would still be in places where they can make us all money

and the Thai people would still believe we are her for them

Yes This lunatic should have been taken off the streets months ago!

i think u forget a small aspect,PTP or Trt or others are elected by the peole of Thailand,they voted Thaksin or Yingluk into office,Suthep and friends did not win an election for a long time and probably won't win any.But they don't have to care because thanks to certain institutions in Thailand they are allowed to do whatever it costs to topple an elected government.Again PTP is elected by the people of Thailand,U don't like it or Suthep does not like it is not the point.U think thais are stupid,so be it.Still, it's there decision.I don't like Merkel or Cameron but I have to accept the people voted them into office.Fortunately Germany or UK does not have a constitution what makes people untouchable by law so they can hold a country in stone age

Merkel and Cameron didn't go to poor people and gave them 100 Euro/GBP to vote for them.

Pathetic!

Yeah used to love his music, sort of the Brit Dylan. Would never visit the cess pool Pattaya even if Sabbath were playing.

then they just wrap a plastic bag around him and leave him there,i Hope Mr Suthep does something about these gangsters.

We all know that Khaosod often come out with fake news to discredit Suthep.

Please check your fact first.

This guy could be hiding petrol bomb in his ice pack or something.

Remember the taxi driver that was beaten up in Vipawadee afew months ago, he was throwing petrol bomb at Suthep's peaceful people.

???

Where was reported that the taxi driver was throwing petrol bombs?

Read here:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/692072-bangkok-taxi-driver-beaten-unconscious-by-anti-govt-protesters/page-10

Post #230

"Seems the taxi driver was caught tossing Molotov Cocktails. There is a photo of his ID on the internet pictured ............"

So some idiot makes an unsubstantiated claim and you feel fit to take it as read. Says a lot for your intelligence, or rather lack of.

The death penalty is a barbaric punishment and state sanctioned murder. I hope Thailand do what they can to get her home, and as important get on the list of countries that no longer let the courts give capital punishment.

As an ex toker I understand your argument but if a country has certain drug laws you break at your own risk. You know the risks, profit margins involved and take a gamble. Most of the times you're a winner but the one time you're the loser you lose big time.

I agree that weed should be classed lower than tobacco and alcohol on the health damage scale but it'll take time for the rest of the world to realise this as tax revenues are astronomical on these legal drugs.

I can't even estimate the amount of Muslim men smoking weed as they're not allowed to have a beer or two to help them sleep.

"as they're not allowed to have a beer or two to help them sleep."

Many do mate, not all Muslim countries rigidly enforce sharia law. Lots of Muslim guys and gals enjoy a tipple, the only thing I've never seen them do is eat pork.

"She was convicted of committing the offence under Section 39B(2) of the Dangerous Drugs Act 1952, which carries the mandatory death sentence upon conviction."

How is that possible? Given cannabis is not dangerous.

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As to it being the home of mediocrity, while the offerings this year by France, San Marino and others were certainly up to that requirement, Eurovision has launched the careers of Abba, Celine Dion and Julio Iglesias.

Celine Dion? You sure?

Yes, win 1988 for Switzerland

Well I'll be! how does that happen? her being a Canadian and all that.

And when did it stop having serious singers and turn in to the freak show it is now?

Congratulations peoples medium!

I didn't know your reforms included the tourist industry!

If only they had not tried to amnesty Taksin.. That is what started this all.. all is a result of this utter incompetent corrupt government that only works for their big boss.

The reds so easily forget what started this all.

No! What started all this, was a small but powerfully backed minority unable to accept their power being usurped by the will of the majority. Any democratically elected government has the right to put before parliament any bill it sees fit.

That's democracy.

Eurovision contest has always been politically influenced. This time as well.

I guess most of the Europeans just wanted to send their message to Putin, who has previously been against gay rights as well as everything which does not follow the old school morals.

I expect the Internet to modify this image so that there is few used tissues on the table, while his right hand is under the table.

Europeans showing their dislike now of Putin, every time Russia was voted for, or mentioned chorus of boo's from the audience

No boos from me, Russia Rocks!

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Time this show was put to bed.

You've got to be kidding.

EUROVISION FOREVER!

Little chance of Eurovision being axed. It is one of the longest running TV programmes of all time, every year since 1956 and is watched by an audience of some 200 million across Europe and globally, even LOS.

As you have nations competing who are in de facto conflict situations, Azerbaijan-Armenia, Russia-Georgia, Russia-Ukraine, perhaps territorial disputes could be settled by the respective nations Eurovision rankings plus perhaps a resurrected Jeux sans Frontiers, hopefully without Stuart Hall...

As to it being the home of mediocrity, while the offerings this year by France, San Marino and others were certainly up to that requirement, Eurovision has launched the careers of Abba, Celine Dion and Julio Iglesias.

Probably the most extraordinary spectacle last night was Poland's entry, extolling the virtues of Slavic girls, whilst stage left a well-endowed Polish lady with a partial wardrobe malfunction was pleasuring a broom stick handle in the style of churning butter....!!

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At least Ukrainian tourists are probably safer in Phuket than in Ukraine.

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Yes. Ukraine is heading towards a civil war, and it's possible Russia may step in to carve up the country.

Friends of mine from Ukraine went home last month for a few weeks. From Crimea where this is all taking place. When asked them how it was, they told me it was like any other day, people walking about, having fun, getting on with life and they didn't see one bit of trouble. They did say that the only time they saw anything was military personnel at the boarder checkpoints and the airport. Wow media hype seems to make out much much more than this.

Imagine being Ukrainian and living in Crimea, flying out of Ukraine for a holiday, possibly to Thailand, and flying home after your holiday, only to find you are now Russian, not Ukrainian.

Most of the potential for trouble is now in Donetsk. Some of the population there want to also join Russia, but Putin hasn't exactly invited them, but has previously stated he would support those wishing to join Russia, so, it appears there could be a civil war, which may see Russia step in.

Crimea is already lost, and the world stood by and watched as Russia breach the sovereignty of Ukraine, in order to prevent World War 3.

Ukraine could end up like Syria, only time will tell.

You really need to read up on the history of the Ukraine.

What a circus!

Is he a democratically elected consul or a representative of the EU/US imposed fascist putsch?

US and EU Are Paying Ukrainian Rioters and Protesters ...

CAPO at this point has not been able to broadcast announcements on Channels 3, 5, 7, and Thai PBS. Channel 9 still covers CAPO announcements. Pheu Thai had been also able to get on Channel 11's signal, but it seems that was short-lived. The narrative of Pheu Thai has thus been compromised, and CAPO's increasingly surreal announcements are now reaching a diminished audience. From every conceivable and practical standpoint, the Pheu Thai administration has ceased to function. They can just basically stand still while the courts and public opinion surrounds it. It needs to be reiterated - they have no constitutionally elected prime minister - either through a quorum-filled parliament or the Senate in the event of a quorum-less parliament - they have half a cabinet, they have no legislative power, they have no parliament, and they have no public mandate. And in fact, there is no present path for an election for three reasons - 1) things on the ground are as unsettled - and likely more so - than the previous election. Under such conditions an election could not be successfully held. 2) Pheu Thai has tried to impose a clause in a new decree whereby the EC can postpone the election again if it has difficulties with the poll. Such a clause has never been included in an election decree before, and could be successfully challenged constitutionally. You simply can't have an election clause that includes an optional moving election date. 3 ) As the man picked by Phue Thai was done outside the provisions of the constitution, he has not the authority to set an election date.

In short, the Pheu Thai administration is frozen in a state of paralysis.

True freedom of speech says

If the governemnt or any of its ministers can say something

the opossiton or in this case, Suthep has the right of reply

and Vice Versa

To not allow this. :which is the Capo way: is to have a dictatorship

Suthep has no right to force any media to do only his announcments

but under free speech he has the right to demand right of reply

Every day we now see more and more examples that Thakin and PTP are a Dictator Government

"Every day we now see more and more examples that Thakin and PTP are a Dictator Government"

Name one!

Members of the Senate who warmly greeted this miscreant have demonstrated in a very clear and open manner they they are biased and have been working to overthrow the elected government all along. The Senators are motivated by politics and not out of a genuine interest for the good of Thailand. This was wrong in so many ways.

Not only that, but have surely broken the law by associating with a known fugitive.

When the news came out I didn't want to comment: -

- not my business;

- not my country;

- respect for the Law etc.

Now that Americans make it officially anybody's business, why not me?

At least I live here and the matter of former PM, the way she was ousted and the next in line PM will reflect on our host country.

My two bits worth: -

- she was a good PM in many respects:

-- a woman;

-- a lady;

-- very patient;

-- not a thief;

-- pragmatic

-- etc.

Comparing her to possible next in line candidates I assure you we will all regret this removal.

The amount of dirt some very narrow minded TV individuals were putting on her is mind boggling:

- too many shoes;

- shoes too clean;

- Taksin;

- Chinese;

- shopaholic;

- world rice prices;

- etc.

The only objection to her as a PM from me was - not enough balls. One does not go for the job without being tough, even ruthless at some points.

I will be gleeing over the election results of the next PM to be. I am sure the People's choice will be worthy of their progressive, wise and educated preferences.

As to the Courts in Thailand I simply do not know enough of Thai Laws.

But if a PM needs a Court approval to appoint or dismiss an officer - why bother to be a PM in Thailand?

And if the Court has the power to dismiss a PM why bother with elections? Why the same Court cannot appoint the next one?

They call me Alien here. Thais are surely Aliens to me.

In my opinion, I don't think your list qualifies a candidate to be PM. I also think your list is incorrect. She was a good PM because she was a woman? how does being a lady make her a better PM? As for not a thief, where's the farmer's money? Pragmatic? have you heard her speak? Do you understand Thai? I haven't heard her answer a single question directly without referring someone else or saying she will check on an answer.

As to the courts in Thailand, the constitution are a set of laws that keep everything fair, there is a check and balance to keep people such as a PM from becoming a dictator. The removal of an official without proper process is one of those checks and balances. What country did you come from? Please keep in mind that Yingluck was not elected, her party was, the guilty were removed from office, it is still her party in charge, they will select a new PM caretaker. What part of this is unfair? The courts have done their duty by law. They have not place a new PM in power because that is not their duty. They have stated that the remaining government will be caretaker until the election. I fail to see how you interrupt your statement on the power of the courts. You should be considering the power of the PM, does being in power allow one to defy the laws of the land? Have you considered what she has done? If your claim is innocent until proven guilty on the rice scheme, you won't have to wait long because that's coming too. My question is once that verdict is out will you denounce it as you have denounce the constitutional courts ruling on her abuse of power? But yes, she's a woman so she's fit for office, right?

"the constitution are a set of laws that keep everything fair,"

Imposed by one side to make sure the other side can never govern!

When the news came out I didn't want to comment: -

- not my business;

- not my country;

- respect for the Law etc.

Now that Americans make it officially anybody's business, why not me?

At least I live here and the matter of former PM, the way she was ousted and the next in line PM will reflect on our host country.

My two bits worth: -

- she was a good PM in many respects:

-- a woman;

-- a lady;

-- very patient;

-- not a thief;

-- pragmatic

-- etc.

Comparing her to possible next in line candidates I assure you we will all regret this removal.

The amount of dirt some very narrow minded TV individuals were putting on her is mind boggling:

- too many shoes;

- shoes too clean;

- Taksin;

- Chinese;

- shopaholic;

- world rice prices;

- etc.

The only objection to her as a PM from me was - not enough balls. One does not go for the job without being tough, even ruthless at some points.

I will be gleeing over the election results of the next PM to be. I am sure the People's choice will be worthy of their progressive, wise and educated preferences.

As to the Courts in Thailand I simply do not know enough of Thai Laws.

But if a PM needs a Court approval to appoint or dismiss an officer - why bother to be a PM in Thailand?

And if the Court has the power to dismiss a PM why bother with elections? Why the same Court cannot appoint the next one?

They call me Alien here. Thais are surely Aliens to me.

Great post.

America has there own reasons and interest in keeping a certain group in Thailand in Power

The US doesn't really care which 'group' is in charge and maintains pretty friendly relations with all the groups, in spite of what you may hear. It is in the interest of the region for Thailand to be a stable country.

The closest relationship in the past has been with the military, by the way.

"The closest relationship in the past has been with the military, by the way".

And yet after the 2006 coup they imposed sanctions and slashed the military aid budget.

"violence is not an acceptable means of resolving political differences."

That's strange! why then did they spend 5 billion dollars doing just that in the Ukraine?

US and EU Are Paying Ukrainian Rioters and Protesters ...

Their are claims that the NACC are corrupt, bias agency that are abusing their powers. Most people wouldn't disagree with that assessment.

Once the dust is settled, hopefully justice is served to the members of this group and they go behind bars.

yes there are claims . they are made by you and your fellow red/ptp lovers as they cannot stand the fact that the courts have ruled against your heroes. Dont worry as only those with tiny brains and no real intelligence think like this, everyone else in Thailand realizes that the courts have made the correct assesment and decision but I am sure all the reds will get their guns/m79's etc and show everyone how democratic they are and of course all their appologists in here will defend their violence once again, pathetic

Oh please! we're not all stupid you know! You can roll out that cobblers to your anti-democracy reactionary right wing rabble retards, but to those of us who believe in democracy, you're just pishing against the wind!

Here's where it all comes crashing down, thanks to the recent senate elections.

The coup clowns don't have the required 3/5 of the senate vote.

There will be no impeachment.

With the Senate being 49% appointed by the Ammart the numbers are very close with slightly more than 60% favouring the old-guard.

Thailand needs reform and the first reform should be an elected senate.

No, Thailand' senate should be 100% appointed as is Canada's.

As is Britains House of Lords, the equivalent 2nd chamber...

Really?

Unlike the elected House of Commons, most new members of the House of Lords are appointed.^[4] Membership of the House of Lords is made up of Lords Spiritual and Lords Temporal. There are currently 26 Lords Spiritual who sit in the Lords by virtue of their ecclesiastical role in the established Church of England.^[5] The Lords Temporal make up the rest of the membership; of these, the majority are life peers who are appointed by the Monarch on the advice of the Prime Minister, or on the advice of the House of Lords Appointments Commission.^[6]