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Thailand or Vietnam: Retirement choices

Thailand offers foreign retirees a clearer legal route to long-term residence than Vietnam, but Vietnam can cost considerably less for those able to manage more complicated visa arrangements. For people deciding where to spend retirement in Southeast Asia, the choice in 2026 often comes down to predictable paperwork and healthcare versus lower rent and daily spending.

Thailand has developed visa options specifically for retirement. The Non-Immigrant O visa allows foreigners aged 50 and above to stay for one or more years, when renewed, for retirement purposes.

Applicants generally need a valid passport, basic medical certificate and depending on initial visa, Thai-recognised health insurance. They must also show either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 baht.

Vietnam has no retirement visa

Vietnam does not have a dedicated retirement visa, nor a visa category based only on a person's age, pension income or retirement status. Retirees seeking a long stay must instead pursue a Temporary Residence Card through eligible work, investment or family-tie routes, or use investment and family-reunion visas.

That can involve more legal complexity than a retirement move to Thailand. Investment-linked residence may require a compliant local company, along with continuing tax filings and audits, obligations that may not suit someone who has stopped working.

For foreigners who want an established route without relying on a job, investment or family sponsorship, Thailand's retirement visa framework is therefore a major practical advantage. Conditions, including financial evidence and insurance, should nevertheless be checked before applying.

Vietnam's advantage is everyday cost

Comparisons cited by Travelbinger put Vietnam around 20-30% cheaper than Thailand for a similar expat lifestyle. Rent is estimated to be roughly 40% lower on average.

Modern one-bedroom apartments are quoted at US$300-500 in Ho Chi Minh City and US$200-350 in Da Nang. Comparable rents are put at US$400-700 in Bangkok and US$350-550 in Chiang Mai.

A comfortable retirement budget is estimated at US$800-1,200 a month in Vietnam, compared with US$1,200-1,800 in Thailand. Annual estimates put comfortable expat spending at US$22,000-30,000 in Vietnam, against US$30,000-40,000 in Bangkok.

Street-food meals are estimated at US$1-3 in Vietnam and US$2-4 in Thailand, while restaurant dinners are US$5-12 and US$8-15 respectively. Domestic beer is also said to be cheaper in Vietnam.

The gap can narrow for retirees dependent on imported food and Western amenities, which can be significantly more expensive in Vietnam. Those happy with local food are likely to see the largest savings.

Healthcare, property and daily life

Thailand's established medical-tourism sector attracts more than two million medical tourists each year, including visitors from the United States, Australia, the Middle East and Europe. Its private hospital network includes JCI-accredited facilities, English-speaking staff and short waiting times.

Vietnam does not require health insurance for any visa category. Government figures put Vietnamese medical services at about 30-50% of the cost in Singapore or Thailand, but the country currently has four JCI-accredited hospitals. The health ministry aims for at least 15 internationally standard hospitals by 2030, including five public hospitals; retirees currently rely heavily on private hospitals in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Neither country lets foreigners buy land outright. Vietnam permits foreign apartment purchases on 50-year leasehold terms, while Thailand has condominium ownership rules for foreigners and an established rental market.

Thailand has also applied tax rules since 2024 to foreign-source income brought into the country in the year it is earned. Retirees moving money to Thailand may need advice on tax exposure and their home country's double-taxation treaty.

Thailand offers more established expat infrastructure, English signage, public transport and retirement services. Vietnam offers lower costs, but busier traffic, less consistent English outside major cities and a more energetic pace. For many retirees, the decision is whether those savings outweigh Thailand's clearer long-term setup.

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18 August 2026

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JerryM Gold Member

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16 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

You know governments all around the world can repeal laws, in lieu of new updated laws, right?

In July, Thailand passed laws setting out the criteria for the deportation of foreigners. I posted a link to it in another thread.

NB But on that one you got it wrong. They didn't July 26 pass a law. Nothing as yet has changed.

Thailand’s Cabinet has approved in principle a draft administrative regulation intended to establish a more consistent and coordinated procedure for the deportation of foreign nationals who commit certain offences or violate Thailand’s immigration, employment or foreign business laws.

The proposed Regulations of the Office of the Prime Minister on Deportation would not create a new substantive power to deport foreign nationals. Instead, the draft is intended to standardize the administrative process through which relevant government agencies exchange information, refer cases and implement deportation decisions.

https://fosrlaw.com/2026/thailand-deportation-procedures-foreign-offenders/

Edited by JerryM

JerryM Gold Member

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39 minutes ago, JerryM said:

NB But on that one you got it wrong. They didn't July 26 pass a law. Nothing as yet has changed.

Those regs have now gone into effect as in new topic. However from my post:

The proposed Regulations of the Office of the Prime Minister on Deportation would not create a new substantive power to deport foreign nationals.

JerryM Gold Member

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On 8/18/2026 at 5:42 AM, ikke1959 said:

And don't forget that Vietnam is more welcoming foreigners than here in Thailand at the moment

It has not been noted that VN intends to liberalize their recreational cannabis laws any time soon.

Jingthing Legendary Member

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In this new topic I have made a BOLD PREDICTION that the financial requirements for the Thailand OA and O visa (retirement) will NOT be raised within 5 years. The reasons are explained in the post below.

Edited by Jingthing

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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8 hours ago, JerryM said:

Nothing as yet has changed.

They are in the mail. 🙂

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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16 hours ago, flexomike said:

Thailand is not going to miss you

Thailand doesn't miss anyone, and that's the problem. They keep thinking the tourists / expats will just keep coming, so no need for any investment in the industry.

Now, there's genuine competition, and it's showing in the stats. Thailand tourism down 7%, Vietnam tourism up 15%. That gap will widen over the next few years.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

In this new topic I have made a BOLD PREDICTION that the financial requirements for the Thailand OA and O visa (retirement) will NOT be raised within 5 years. The reasons are explained in the post below.

Here's a prediction for you.

The 800k / 65k will be raised in the future. Do you agree, or disagree?

If you agree, then all there is to discuss is when, and by how much, and for what purpose.

Jingthing Legendary Member

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6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Here's a prediction for you.

The 800k / 65k will be raised in the future. Do you agree, or disagree?

If you agree, then all there is to discuss is when, and by how much, and for what purpose.

That's kind of silly.

Sometime in the future of course or they could even end retirement visas completely sometime in the future.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's kind of silly.

Sometime in the future of course or they could even end retirement visas completely sometime in the future.

So, you agree it will be raised in the future. Is that correct?

Yellowtail Star Member

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Here's a prediction, next year some of the expats in Thailand will leave, and others will come.

Jingthing Legendary Member

Jingthing

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16 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

So, you agree it will be raised in the future. Is that correct?

Of course yes eventually if they don't kill the program entirely.
If it's 50 years from now that's basically never to us.

So it's a stupid question really.

You think you have a gotcha when you have a nothing,

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Of course yes eventually if they don't kill the program entirely.

I agree.

It can not stay at 800k / 65k for forever.

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If it's 50 years from now that's basically never to us.

Or, it could be announced next week. They have the right PM for it. 🙂

Even if no change for 50 years, thus no effect on us, what is the harm in discussing anyway.

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So it's a stupid question really.

If it's a stupid question, why did you make a "bold prediction" about it? 🙂

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You think you have a gotcha when you have a nothing,

Nope. No gotcha.

Simply saying, it can't stay at 800k / 65k forever. Eventually these amounts will be increased. That increase may be small, to reflect a higher cost of living, or large, as part of a broader policy to clean Thailand out.

So, you agree it's not if, just when.

That leaves the amount, and for what purpose the Thai government will chose that amount.

Which way do you think they will go?

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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31 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Here's a prediction, next year some of the expats in Thailand will leave, and others will come.

Sure, but of the ones leaving, will it be by choice? 😂

Jingthing Legendary Member

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1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

So it's a stupid question really.

2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I agree.

It can not stay at 800k / 65k for forever.

Or, it could be announced next week. They have the right PM for it. 🙂

Even if no change for 50 years, thus no effect on us, what is the harm in discussing anyway.

If it's a stupid question, why did you make a "bold prediction" about it? 🙂

Nope. No gotcha.

Simply saying, it can't stay at 800k / 65k forever. Eventually these amounts will be increased. That increase may be small, to reflect a higher cost of living, or large, as part of a broader policy to clean Thailand out.

So, you agree it's not if, just when.

That leaves the amount, and for what purpose the Thai government will chose that amount.

Which way do you think they will go?

It was a stupid question because I never said or even implied that it would NEVER go up.

Did you miss that?

In fact I put a time limit on my firm prediction -- 5 years though I really think it probably won't go up for at least 10 years or more.

Could it go up tomorrow?

Of course it could.

Again, I never said it couldn't.

This kind of game playing is shall we say TEDIOUS.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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(edited)
18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

About the same as claiming at some point the financial requirements will increase.

Thailand's new deportation laws start today. Who would have thought? 😂 😂

A crackdown on foreigners owning land through a Thai company nominee structure, never going to happen. 😂 😂

Legalizing cannabis in Thailand, impossible. 😂 😂

Nope, no change in Thailand, ever. 😂 😂

Edited by KhunHeineken

Yellowtail Star Member

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5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Sure, but of the ones leaving, will it be by choice? 😂

Here's a prediction, next year some of the expats in Thailand will leave by choice, some will die, and some will be asked to leave, for whatever reason.

😂

Yellowtail Star Member

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5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Thailand's new deportation laws start today. Who would have thought? 😂 😂

I am unaware of any new laws. Please provide an example. 😂 😂

5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

A crackdown on foreigners owning land through a Thai company nominee structure, never going to happen. 😂 😂

Why would you say that? 😂 😂😂 😂

Jingthing Legendary Member

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Just now, Yellowtail said:

Making it easier to deport people that break existing laws.

This issue is this and for some people, nobody knows how many yet, the impact of this change will be very tragic.

Namely that is cases of very minor violations resulting in super quick deportations when the person has lived a very long time in Thailand and has many local assets and/or relationships.

Not enough time to deal with that.

It doesn't take a big iimagination to see how devastating this will be to some individuals.

Another case where Thailand is indeed becoming HARDER on foreigners.

JerryM Gold Member

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11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Namely that is cases of very minor violations resulting in super quick deportations when the person has lived a very long time in Thailand and has many local assets and/or relationships.

The regulation sets out procedures for deporting two categories of foreign nationals: those whose conduct is deemed to threaten public order, good morals or public wellbeing, and those convicted of specific offences — including illegal entry, illegal employment, illegal business operations, document forgery or crimes carrying prison terms of five years or more.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/3309639/deportation-regulation-takes-effect-targets-lawbreaking-foreigners

Yellowtail Star Member

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7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This issue is this and for some people, nobody knows how many yet, the impact of this change will be very tragic.

Namely that is cases of very minor violations resulting in super quick deportations when the person has lived a very long time in Thailand and has many local assets and/or relationships.

Not enough time to deal with that.

It doesn't take a big iimagination to see how devastating this will be to some individuals.

Another case where Thailand is indeed becoming HARDER on foreigners.

The longer one is here, the more likely they know the laws.

Sure, there could be a few sad stories about people that have been burned all their here thirty years that have no savings and have no way to meet the financial requirements, but for every one of them, there are likely ten cheaters.

Jingthing Legendary Member

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6 minutes ago, JerryM said:

The regulation sets out procedures for deporting two categories of foreign nationals: those whose conduct is deemed to threaten public order, good morals or public wellbeing, and those convicted of specific offences — including illegal entry, illegal employment, illegal business operations, document forgery or crimes carrying prison terms of five years or more.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/3309639/deportation-regulation-takes-effect-targets-lawbreaking-foreigners

You proved my point.

Jingthing Legendary Member

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6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The longer one is here, the more likely they know the laws.

Sure, there could be a few sad stories about people that have been burned all their here thirty years that have no savings and have no way to meet the financial requirements, but for every one of them, there are likely ten cheaters.

Straw man garbage.

JerryM Gold Member

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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

You proved my point.

You're welcome. But I don't see anything here as being like ICE agents roaming the US streets \.

Jingthing Legendary Member

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Just now, JerryM said:

You're welcome. But I don't see anything here as being like ICE agents roaming the US streets \.

I'll give you that point.

emptypockets Platinum Member

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20 hours ago, Jingthing said:

WRONG!!!

In the case of the US they weren't legally allowed to do what Thailand demanded! They could only verify signatures on affadavits.

WRONG!!!

The old rule was 800K three months before only.

There was no other rule BEFORE.

The change was to 800k two months before, 800K three months after and 400K the rest of the year.

The recent ROGUE bank thing has NOTHING to do with immigration rules!

I'm shocked at how you're spreading misinformation.

WRONG!

People were already here on OAs. They were encouraged to get them by embassies abroad.

Look dude you can just admit you're wrong and move on.

Instead you insist on doubling down on your idiotic misinformation.

Do you actually believe the crap you are spewing but feel the need to do it to save face and/or to just be argumentative?!?

Can't imagine why Thais might be rude to you, as per your other post.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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50 minutes ago, JerryM said:

But I don't see anything here as being like ICE agents roaming the US streets \.

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/predator-eyes-on-mobile-in-action-as-tourist-police-use-ai-facial-scans-to-catch-indian-overstay-in-pattaya-544811

"Officers deployed a CCOC Mobile operations vehicle equipped with AI facial recognition cameras, known informally as “Predator Eyes on Mobile,” to patrol Pattaya Beach Road in Nongprue subdistrict, Banglamung district, Chonburi."

KhunLA Star Member

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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It doesn't take a big iimagination to see how devastating this will be to some individuals.

You mean to ... criminals. Oh well ... live with your choices, you can obey or violate the law, UP2U

DEPORT 👍

JerryM Gold Member

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1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Officers deployed a CCOC Mobile operations vehicle equipped with AI facial recognition cameras, known informally as “Predator Eyes on Mobile,” to patrol Pattaya Beach Road in Nongprue subdistrict, Banglamung district, Chonburi."

So you are saying this:

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Versus this

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