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Thailand or Vietnam: Retirement choices

Thailand offers foreign retirees a clearer legal route to long-term residence than Vietnam, but Vietnam can cost considerably less for those able to manage more complicated visa arrangements. For people deciding where to spend retirement in Southeast Asia, the choice in 2026 often comes down to predictable paperwork and healthcare versus lower rent and daily spending.

Thailand has developed visa options specifically for retirement. The Non-Immigrant O visa allows foreigners aged 50 and above to stay for one or more years, when renewed, for retirement purposes.

Applicants generally need a valid passport, basic medical certificate and depending on initial visa, Thai-recognised health insurance. They must also show either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 baht.

Vietnam has no retirement visa

Vietnam does not have a dedicated retirement visa, nor a visa category based only on a person's age, pension income or retirement status. Retirees seeking a long stay must instead pursue a Temporary Residence Card through eligible work, investment or family-tie routes, or use investment and family-reunion visas.

That can involve more legal complexity than a retirement move to Thailand. Investment-linked residence may require a compliant local company, along with continuing tax filings and audits, obligations that may not suit someone who has stopped working.

For foreigners who want an established route without relying on a job, investment or family sponsorship, Thailand's retirement visa framework is therefore a major practical advantage. Conditions, including financial evidence and insurance, should nevertheless be checked before applying.

Vietnam's advantage is everyday cost

Comparisons cited by Travelbinger put Vietnam around 20-30% cheaper than Thailand for a similar expat lifestyle. Rent is estimated to be roughly 40% lower on average.

Modern one-bedroom apartments are quoted at US$300-500 in Ho Chi Minh City and US$200-350 in Da Nang. Comparable rents are put at US$400-700 in Bangkok and US$350-550 in Chiang Mai.

A comfortable retirement budget is estimated at US$800-1,200 a month in Vietnam, compared with US$1,200-1,800 in Thailand. Annual estimates put comfortable expat spending at US$22,000-30,000 in Vietnam, against US$30,000-40,000 in Bangkok.

Street-food meals are estimated at US$1-3 in Vietnam and US$2-4 in Thailand, while restaurant dinners are US$5-12 and US$8-15 respectively. Domestic beer is also said to be cheaper in Vietnam.

The gap can narrow for retirees dependent on imported food and Western amenities, which can be significantly more expensive in Vietnam. Those happy with local food are likely to see the largest savings.

Healthcare, property and daily life

Thailand's established medical-tourism sector attracts more than two million medical tourists each year, including visitors from the United States, Australia, the Middle East and Europe. Its private hospital network includes JCI-accredited facilities, English-speaking staff and short waiting times.

Vietnam does not require health insurance for any visa category. Government figures put Vietnamese medical services at about 30-50% of the cost in Singapore or Thailand, but the country currently has four JCI-accredited hospitals. The health ministry aims for at least 15 internationally standard hospitals by 2030, including five public hospitals; retirees currently rely heavily on private hospitals in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Neither country lets foreigners buy land outright. Vietnam permits foreign apartment purchases on 50-year leasehold terms, while Thailand has condominium ownership rules for foreigners and an established rental market.

Thailand has also applied tax rules since 2024 to foreign-source income brought into the country in the year it is earned. Retirees moving money to Thailand may need advice on tax exposure and their home country's double-taxation treaty.

Thailand offers more established expat infrastructure, English signage, public transport and retirement services. Vietnam offers lower costs, but busier traffic, less consistent English outside major cities and a more energetic pace. For many retirees, the decision is whether those savings outweigh Thailand's clearer long-term setup.

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18 August 2026

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BritManToo Star Member

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3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

I agree.

It can not stay at 800k / 65k for forever.

Or, it could be announced next week. They have the right PM for it. 🙂

Even if no change for 50 years, thus no effect on us, what is the harm in discussing anyway.

If it's a stupid question, why did you make a "bold prediction" about it? 🙂

Nope. No gotcha.

Simply saying, it can't stay at 800k / 65k forever. Eventually these amounts will be increased. That increase may be small, to reflect a higher cost of living, or large, as part of a broader policy to clean Thailand out.

So, you agree it's not if, just when.

That leaves the amount, and for what purpose the Thai government will chose that amount.

Which way do you think they will go?

100k for marriage

200k for retirement

That seems fair to me!

Sigmund Gold Member

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Thailand can catch up if it issues a hassle free, long stay visa , to any foreign property owner on freehold or leasehold. Visa delivered with a simple submission only asking for a pension or revenu statement from homeland and the document of the house land leasehold or the condo purchase and that's it.

What would also be constructive would be to allow foreigners to one the one piece of land for one house is built with the price fixed by the government to avoid obvious temptations to cheat.

Let's dream a bit...🤣

Jingthing Legendary Member

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51 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

You mean to ... criminals. Oh well ... live with your choices, you can obey or violate the law, UP2U

DEPORT 👍

Having your life destroyed over a minor crime is tragic.

Yellowtail Star Member

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5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Having your life destroyed over a minor crime is tragic.

Under what circumstance might having to move destroy one's life?

What kind of minor crime?

KhunLA Star Member

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(edited)
24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Having your life destroyed over a minor crime is tragic.

Is it really that hard to live within the law. I don't think anyone will be deported for traffic violations, or flying a drone, unless for nefarious reasons. My 2 violations of 'high' crimes : speed & camera height 🤣

Edited by KhunLA

JerryM Gold Member

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3 hours ago, JerryM said:

those whose conduct is deemed to threaten public order,

good morals or

public wellbeing,

via Gemini:

The specific charges and legal provisions constituting these violations include:

1. Offenses Against Public Order and Peace

Governed primarily under Title V of the Criminal Code, these charges apply to actions that destabilize social harmony or create public fear (e.g. Disobeying Lawful Dispersal Orders)

2. Offenses Against Good Morals and Sexuality These charges focus on actions that compromise social decency, public ethics, and the protection of vulnerable demographics (i.e. sexually related charges)

3. Offenses Against Public Wellbeing and Safety These are acts categorized under Public Danger and Petty Misdemeanors that threaten the physical health, security, or everyday peace of the general populace: (e.g. public brawl, arson)

Jingthing Legendary Member

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10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Is it really that hard to live within the law. I don't think anyone will be deported for traffic violations, or flying a drone, unless for nefarious reasons. My 2 violations of 'high' crimes : speed & camera height 🤣

Lawyers told people with land nominees they were OK with the law.

Yellowtail Star Member

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3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Lawyers told people with land nominees they were OK with the law.the

Only a fool would expect that some convoluted method of owning lad was legal.

Do you think that there first stop when they wanted to buy was at a lawyer's office to set up a company?

In any event, it does not appear that setting up a nominee company in and of itself to own land is a deportable offence.

KhunLA Star Member

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(edited)
19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Lawyers told people with land nominees they were OK with the law.

I'm pretty sure 99.9% of those folks, knew exactly what they were doing, something illegal. Same percentage thought, they'd never get caught ... oops

Sort of like cheating on your taxes.

Let's present this scenario in a different way. You invite someone, a new neighbor to your house. Known him/her a short time, enough to feel comfortable to invite over for a coffee, and show off that cheesecake you baked yesterday, that turned out really good.

He, she asks, where is the toilet, and you point down the hall. A minute later you need your phone, it's in the bedroom, you go to retrieve it, and he, she, has your jewerly box (that was in the closet) on your bed and open ....

... do you say WTF, then ask your guest to leave your house ???

Welcome to Thailand, you're a guest, act like one, or get your ass deported.

Edited by KhunLA

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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For many retired expats, past, present, and future, when it came to Thailand versus Vietnam as a retirement destination, Vietnam was crossed off the list straight away, due to not having a long stay visa.

What has been funny in this thread is some members will not even contempt the possibility of Vietnam having a long stay visa in the future.

Well, what a coincidence. 😂 😂

Published just today.

https://news.tuoitre.vn/vietnam-plans-to-study-more-favorable-entry-exit-policies-for-intl-tourists-103260828123158544.htm

"Notably, the Politburo hints at studying controlled pilot mechanisms to attract long-stay visitors, remote workers, and international capital into tourism and resort development."

Note the words, "attract long-stay visitors." That's not a 12 night holiday as opposed to a 10 night holiday. 😂

Only a matter of time before Vietnam announces a Thailand style retirement visa. When that day arrives, the impact on Thailand will be considerable.

Yellowtail Star Member

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1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

For many retired expats, past, present, and future, when it came to Thailand versus Vietnam as a retirement destination, Vietnam was crossed off the list straight away, due to not having a long stay visa.

What has been funny in this thread is some members will not even contempt the possibility of Vietnam having a long stay visa in the future.

Well, what a coincidence. 😂 😂

Published just today.

https://news.tuoitre.vn/vietnam-plans-to-study-more-favorable-entry-exit-policies-for-intl-tourists-103260828123158544.htm

"Notably, the Politburo hints at studying controlled pilot mechanisms to attract long-stay visitors, remote workers, and international capital into tourism and resort development."

Note the words, "attract long-stay visitors." That's not a 12 night holiday as opposed to a 10 night holiday. 😂

Only a matter of time before Vietnam announces a Thailand style retirement visa. When that day arrives, the impact on Thailand will be considerable.

What members? I think you are making that up. You do that a lot. 😂 😂😂 😂

Jingthing Legendary Member

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People should hope for a Philippines type retirement visa instead of a Thailand style one.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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(edited)
12 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

What members?

They know who there are.

So, there's a news article, published just yesterday, saying Vietnam will look into piloting a long stay visa program. Who would have thought? 😂

Vietnam is a good Plan B for me, but for many, Vietnam may be their first choice over Thailand.

Edited by KhunHeineken

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

People should hope for a Philippines type retirement visa instead of a Thailand style one.

Yes. It will be interesting to see what they offer.

There will be a new competitor in the South East Asia retirement destination space.

Yellowtail Star Member

Yellowtail

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6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

They know who there are.

But you don't know who they are because you made it up. You do that a lot. 😂 😂

6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

So, there's a news article, published just yesterday, saying Vietnam will look into piloting a long stay visa program. Who would have thought? 😂

When did it say the retirement would be available. 😂 😂😂

6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Vietnam is a good Plan B for me, but for many, Vietnam may be their first choice over Thailand.

Have you talked to your visa agent about the move? 😂 😂😂 😂

Yellowtail Star Member

Yellowtail

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4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Yes. It will be interesting to see what they offer.

There will be a new competitor in the South East Asia retirement destination space.

How long do you think it will take before visa agents are available in Vietnam to help all the rich guys meet the financial requirements? 😂 😂😂 😂

Jingthing Legendary Member

Jingthing

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Don't count your visa chickens before they hatch.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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17 hours ago, BritManToo said:

100k for marriage

The Thai government should pay foreigners to marry Thai women. 😂 😂

JerryM Gold Member

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10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

When did it say the retirement would be available

The headline from thhe linked article above says: Vietnam plans to study

Those are fightin' words.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Don't count your visa chickens before they hatch.

Sure, and the same goes for Thailand. The could change the goal posts next week. Who knows? They have the right PM for it. 🙂

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

But you don't know who they are because you made it up.

Is the article in the link fake news? Is it inaccurate? Are they lying? Is it AI?

For some members, Vietnam having a long stay visa in the future was just one "hypothetical" too many to consider. 😂

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

When did it say the retirement would be available.

It didn't. It could be next week, or 1 year from now, but it's coming.

I have said it would not surprise me if Vietnam announces a long stay visa next week, and coincidentally, there's a news article reporting the Vietnam government is considering it, right now.

18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Have you talked to your visa agent about the move?

Not moving. Still enjoy living in Pattaya, with Thailand's visa laws having minimal effect on me.

After Vietnam announces their long stay visa criteria, and if that criteria is "easier" to meet, it will be interesting to see if Thailand competes, with perhaps softening their long stay visa criteria.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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15 minutes ago, JerryM said:

The headline from thhe linked article above says: Vietnam plans to study

Those are fightin' words.

Communist government. Things can happen very quickly.

JerryM Gold Member

JerryM

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2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Communist government. Things can happen very quickly.

So why didn't say that instead of they're thinking about it.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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18 hours ago, JerryM said:

So you are saying this:

PATTA2-7.jpg

Versus this

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Same Same. Thailand is just not as efficient. Same result, illegal immigrants out.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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1 minute ago, JerryM said:

So why didn't say that instead of they're thinking about it.

Probably didn't want thousands of Thailand retired expats flooding their borders. 😂

Yellowtail Star Member

Yellowtail

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2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Probably didn't want thousands of Thailand retired expats flooding their borders. 😂

You ain't left yet?😂😂😂😂

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You ain't left yet?

Yawn.

Vietnam is my Plan B.

Yellowtail Star Member

Yellowtail

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6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Yawn.

Vietnam is my Plan B.

Yeah, hopefully they have a visa without any financial requirements before Thailand cracks down on visa agents and you have to move. 😂😂😂😂

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

KhunHeineken

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(edited)
6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, hopefully they have a visa without any financial requirements before Thailand cracks down on visa agents and you have to move. 😂😂😂😂

I've been bringing in well over the 65k a month, so that's my fall back to any serious banning of agents here. The banning of agents will not see me HAVE to move.

When Vietnam announces their long stay visa, I am sure it will be reported on this forum, and I'll be having a look at what they offer, because, unlike many, including yourself, I have not imprisoned myself in Thailand. I can leave if /when I want to.

This is the reason why you, and some other members, do not want to discuss the topic, it's because you can't leave anyway. You've gone "all in" on Thailand.

Edited by KhunHeineken

Yellowtail Star Member

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4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I've been bringing in well over the 65k a month, so that's my fall back to any serious banning of agents here. The banning of agents will not see me HAVE to move.

When Vietnam announces their long stay visa, I am sure it will be reported on this forum, and I'll be having a look at what they offer, because, unlike many, including yourself, I have not imprisoned myself in Thailand. I can leave if /when I want to.

This is the reason why you, and some other members, do not want to discuss the topic, it's because you can't leave anyway. You've gone "all in" on Thailand.

Why do you keep lying and claiming I am imprisoned here? Have to lie incessantly does not strengthen your argument.

Not to worry, I'm sure it won't take long for visa agents to get set up in Vietnam. 😂😂😂😂

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