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Thailand or Vietnam: Retirement choices

Thailand offers foreign retirees a clearer legal route to long-term residence than Vietnam, but Vietnam can cost considerably less for those able to manage more complicated visa arrangements. For people deciding where to spend retirement in Southeast Asia, the choice in 2026 often comes down to predictable paperwork and healthcare versus lower rent and daily spending.

Thailand has developed visa options specifically for retirement. The Non-Immigrant O visa allows foreigners aged 50 and above to stay for one or more years, when renewed, for retirement purposes.

Applicants generally need a valid passport, basic medical certificate and depending on initial visa, Thai-recognised health insurance. They must also show either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 baht.

Vietnam has no retirement visa

Vietnam does not have a dedicated retirement visa, nor a visa category based only on a person's age, pension income or retirement status. Retirees seeking a long stay must instead pursue a Temporary Residence Card through eligible work, investment or family-tie routes, or use investment and family-reunion visas.

That can involve more legal complexity than a retirement move to Thailand. Investment-linked residence may require a compliant local company, along with continuing tax filings and audits, obligations that may not suit someone who has stopped working.

For foreigners who want an established route without relying on a job, investment or family sponsorship, Thailand's retirement visa framework is therefore a major practical advantage. Conditions, including financial evidence and insurance, should nevertheless be checked before applying.

Vietnam's advantage is everyday cost

Comparisons cited by Travelbinger put Vietnam around 20-30% cheaper than Thailand for a similar expat lifestyle. Rent is estimated to be roughly 40% lower on average.

Modern one-bedroom apartments are quoted at US$300-500 in Ho Chi Minh City and US$200-350 in Da Nang. Comparable rents are put at US$400-700 in Bangkok and US$350-550 in Chiang Mai.

A comfortable retirement budget is estimated at US$800-1,200 a month in Vietnam, compared with US$1,200-1,800 in Thailand. Annual estimates put comfortable expat spending at US$22,000-30,000 in Vietnam, against US$30,000-40,000 in Bangkok.

Street-food meals are estimated at US$1-3 in Vietnam and US$2-4 in Thailand, while restaurant dinners are US$5-12 and US$8-15 respectively. Domestic beer is also said to be cheaper in Vietnam.

The gap can narrow for retirees dependent on imported food and Western amenities, which can be significantly more expensive in Vietnam. Those happy with local food are likely to see the largest savings.

Healthcare, property and daily life

Thailand's established medical-tourism sector attracts more than two million medical tourists each year, including visitors from the United States, Australia, the Middle East and Europe. Its private hospital network includes JCI-accredited facilities, English-speaking staff and short waiting times.

Vietnam does not require health insurance for any visa category. Government figures put Vietnamese medical services at about 30-50% of the cost in Singapore or Thailand, but the country currently has four JCI-accredited hospitals. The health ministry aims for at least 15 internationally standard hospitals by 2030, including five public hospitals; retirees currently rely heavily on private hospitals in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Neither country lets foreigners buy land outright. Vietnam permits foreign apartment purchases on 50-year leasehold terms, while Thailand has condominium ownership rules for foreigners and an established rental market.

Thailand has also applied tax rules since 2024 to foreign-source income brought into the country in the year it is earned. Retirees moving money to Thailand may need advice on tax exposure and their home country's double-taxation treaty.

Thailand offers more established expat infrastructure, English signage, public transport and retirement services. Vietnam offers lower costs, but busier traffic, less consistent English outside major cities and a more energetic pace. For many retirees, the decision is whether those savings outweigh Thailand's clearer long-term setup.

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18 August 2026

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Yellowtail Star Member

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8 minutes ago, TopThai1964 said:

a friend of mine that lives 12 years in Vietnam told me that they don’t want Retirement Visa to atttact the same scumbags fighting, drunks and drugs like in Thailand! Also Prostitution is more secret and not open as in Thailand and they don’t want another Pattaya or Patong in Vietnam !

And of course, living in a foreign country in which you don't speak the local language fluently, much less read it, makes one an expert on what that country does and does not want.

It's like a greeter at Walmart thinking they know what the board members are planning.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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15 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

What thread

This thread.

Yellowtail Star Member

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3 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

This thread.

Oh that one. Yes, I perused that earlier, and the only thing I saw that was more difficult was that in Jomtian, one has to update their bankbook the same day.

I update my book he same day at CW anyway.

Were there any other changes that make it more difficult that I missed?

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh that one. Yes, I perused that earlier, and the only thing I saw that was more difficult was that in Jomtian, one has to update their bankbook the same day.

I update my book he same day at CW anyway.

Were there any other changes that make it more difficult that I missed?

Not so much about changes but about hoops to jump through. Vietnam is easier, especially if one is married to a Vietnamese national.

Your comments are like the boiling frog. We all get so used to the Thai BS that we just accept it, but things are a lot easier in neighboring countries.

Have you been to Vietnam?

Edited by KhunHeineken

Yellowtail Star Member

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Just now, KhunHeineken said:

Not so much about changes but about hoops to jump through. Vietnam is easier, especially if one is married to a Vietnamese national.

Your comments are like the boiling frog. We get to used to the Thai BS that we just accept it, but things are a lot easier in neighboring countries.

What hoops, filling the forms out and going down there?

The boiling frog thing is a myth.

scubascuba3 Star Member

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1 hour ago, TopThai1964 said:

a friend of mine that lives 12 years in Vietnam told me that they don’t want Retirement Visa to atttact the same scumbags fighting, drunks and drugs like in Thailand! Also Prostitution is more secret and not open as in Thailand and they don’t want another Pattaya or Patong in Vietnam !

Tell him that in Thailand most of those are tourists

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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8 hours ago, JerryM said:

That's right. You're different.

Yes. I didn't se the need to join "The Issan House Builders Club." 😂 😂

JerryM Gold Member

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1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

Yes. I didn't se the need to join "The Issan House Builders Club." 😂 😂

Neither have I -- the family owns and paid for the house. I just rent it.

I just got right of purchase approval based on the availability of a 25m swimming pool open at 6 AM.

Edited by JerryM

Yellowtail Star Member

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1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

Yes. I didn't se the need to join "The Issan House Builders Club." 😂 😂

There are a lot more people in the live in a rental, ride a scooter, bang hookers club, try that.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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12 hours ago, BayArea said:

the number is growing rapidly by the day. I can't tell you how many YouTube videos I have watched the last several months from expats on their " retirement" in Viet Nam.

Vietnam is breaking their tourism records. That's tomorrow's expat retiree. Thailand's tourism is in decline. That's tomorrow's expat retiree lost.

https://news.tuoitre.vn/vietnam-tourism-sets-twin-records-in-international-arrivals-in-may-first-5-months-103260604120857023.htm

Yellowtail Star Member

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4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Vietnam is breaking their tourism records. That's tomorrow's expat retiree. Thailand's tourism is in decline. That's tomorrow's expat retiree lost.

https://news.tuoitre.vn/vietnam-tourism-sets-twin-records-in-international-arrivals-in-may-first-5-months-103260604120857023.htm

When are you leaving?

JerryM Gold Member

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19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

When are you leaving?

He's not leaving. He likes it here where he can let everyone know what life is like at the top of the food chain.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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16 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I wonder if the banks back home will stop tolerating people who are not tax residents anywhere.

I am still a tax resident of Australia, and wish to remain so into the future, despite some proposed changes to the law.

Otherwise, it's 30% from $0 to $135,000, no exemptions, no tax free threshold, and the government will know you are outside of Australia for 183 days from the immigration records.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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26 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

When are you leaving?

I'm not. I like Pattaya and my lifestyle here.

No secret that Vietnam is my Plan B.

Thailand can bring on all the crackdowns and hoops it likes, I couldn't care less.

Unlike yourself, I have not imprisoned myself here, and I am not at the mercy of the Thai government.

Have you ever been to Vietnam?

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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9 minutes ago, JerryM said:

He's not leaving. He likes it here where he can let everyone know what life is like at the top of the food chain.

I fly under the radar here. I didn't come to Thailand to marry a Thai hooker and adopt her extended family.

How's your pig farm in Issan going? 😂

save the frogs Star Member

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9 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I am still a tax resident of Australia, and wish to remain so into the future, despite some proposed changes to the law.

So you live in Australia more than half the year.

But it's not feasible for most people to continue doing that.

Yellowtail Star Member

Yellowtail

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Just now, KhunHeineken said:

I'm not. I like Pattaya and my lifestyle here.

No secret that Vietnam is my Plan B.

Thailand can bring on all the crackdowns and hoops it likes, I couldn't care less.

Unlike yourself, I have not imprisoned myself here, and I am not at the mercy of the Thai government.

Have you ever been to Vietnam?

I like Bangkok and my lifestyle here, Point Loma is my plan B, and in the 26 years I've been here, I've never had any problem with any government agency.

Why do you claim I am imprisoned here? And you are clearly more at the mercy of the Thai government than I am.

What is it about your life that has you calling my wife a prostitute, and me stupid for not renting?

What do you see in me, that you don't like about yourself?

Yellowtail Star Member

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12 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I fly under the radar here. I didn't come to Thailand to marry a Thai hooker and adopt her extended family.

How's your pig farm in Issan going? 😂

How classy you are.

jas007 Platinum Member

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Vietnam doesn't seem to be in any hurry to offer "retirement" visas. You can apply for a long term residence visa of variable length for a fee and an investment in Vietnam, but the duration you will be granted is uncertain and, once you apply, you can't get a refund. On the other hand, people seem to live there by doing visa runs every 90 days. You can do the whole thing in one day. Fly into Thailand and turn around and go back, all on the same day. You don't even have to leave the airport. Or, you can take a bus to the border to cross and return.

If you end up needing serious medical care, hop pneumonia a plane to Bangkok.

Anyway, I've thought about it, although I can't really complain about Thailand. Cost isn't a big issue.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

So you live in Australia more than half the year.

But it's not feasible for most people to continue doing that.

No, I live in Pattaya, full time.

The current residency laws for taxation purposes in Australia are 90 years old, and based on one's "domicile." I have a house, car, utility bills, family, club memberships etc in Australia. I left my life intact there. I can slide back into it at any time, should I want / need to.

As far as the ATO is concerned, I am just on a long holiday, with every intention of returning to Australia, and they can not prove otherwise. 😂

When the new laws come in, Australia will move move to a physical presence and time based model, the same as Thailand. It will be 183 days. That will be what they call "the bright line test." Every expat who derives an income from Australia, and the aged pension is deemed an income, will be impacted.

They have a secondary test where one must stay between 45 days and 183 days, and meet two out of four factor tests, which are easy. It will mean many Aussies will have to do 6 weeks a year in Australia, or be deemed a non resident for tax purposes and pay 30% from $0 to $135,000.

Here's the proposed changes from a random Aussie accounting firm.

https://hlb.com.au/tax-residency-changes-for-individuals/

Yellowtail Star Member

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10 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Vietnam doesn't seem to be in any hurry to offer "retirement" visas. You can apply for a long term residence visa of variable length for a fee and an investment in Vietnam, but the duration you will be granted is uncertain and, once you apply, you can't get a refund. On the other hand, people seem to live there by doing visa runs every 90 days. You can do the whole thing in one day. Fly into Thailand and turn around and go back, all on the same day. You don't even have to leave the airport. Or, you can take a bus to the border to cross and return.

If you end up needing serious medical care, hop pneumonia a plane to Bangkok.

Anyway, I've thought about it, although I can't really complain about Thailand. Cost isn't a big issue.

That seems a lot easier than just staying in Thailand

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How classy you are.

Thailand does attract the classy expat retirees. It's the temples. 😂

jas007 Platinum Member

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41 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That seems a lot easier than just staying in Thailand

???

You mean it would be easier to jut stay in Thailand, right?

JerryM Gold Member

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1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

and adopt her extended family.

No. Her extended family adopted me.

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